medjuck Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 I downloaded "Sue" from ITunes a couple of days ago. I'm a big fan of Schneider, but though this is recognizably her, it's far from her best work. Quote
mandrill Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 If there is one person from "rock pantheon" that leaves me cold it is David Bowie. I've enjoyed lots of "rock"- West Coast Psychedelic, Allman Brothers, British Prog, Lou Reed, RIO, Australian Hard Rock, Czech Indie, Russian Punk- you name it, but never Bowie. There is no discernible cause that I can put a finger on, except maybe a perceived lack of sincerity in anything he does as an artist. Quote
Hot Ptah Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 (edited) 31 minutes ago, mandrill said: If there is one person from "rock pantheon" that leaves me cold it is David Bowie. I've enjoyed lots of "rock"- West Coast Psychedelic, Allman Brothers, British Prog, Lou Reed, RIO, Australian Hard Rock, Czech Indie, Russian Punk- you name it, but never Bowie. There is no discernible cause that I can put a finger on, except maybe a perceived lack of sincerity in anything he does as an artist. I like most of what Bowie has done, which has encompassed a great amount of variety over his entire career. Different strokes. He has worked with jazz musicians before. Lester Bowie was featured on his "Black Tie White Noise" album, and he recorded with the Pat Metheny Group on "This Is Not America." Edited December 11, 2015 by Hot Ptah Quote
sidewinder Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 Not to forget that Bowie took saxophone lessons back in the day with Ronnie Ross of 'Cleopatra's Needle' fame. Quote
Scott Dolan Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 2 hours ago, mandrill said: If there is one person from "rock pantheon" that leaves me cold it is David Bowie. I've enjoyed lots of "rock"- West Coast Psychedelic, Allman Brothers, British Prog, Lou Reed, RIO, Australian Hard Rock, Czech Indie, Russian Punk- you name it, but never Bowie. There is no discernible cause that I can put a finger on, except maybe a perceived lack of sincerity in anything he does as an artist. That's cool. For me it would be Bruce Springsteen. I don't find him unlistenable, or a hack, I just don't get "The Boss" hype. I do really dig the shit out of Streets Of Philadelphia, though. As for Bowie, I'm not a huge fan, but generally like his music. Fame and I'm Afraid Of Americans are both top shelf tunes, IMO. Quote
jazzbo Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 2 hours ago, Hot Ptah said: I like most of what Bowie has done, which has encompassed a great amount of variety over his entire career. Me too. I think I may have all his work. Quote
mandrill Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 28 minutes ago, Scott Dolan said: That's cool. For me it would be Bruce Springsteen. I don't find him unlistenable, or a hack, I just don't get "The Boss" hype. I do really dig the shit out of Streets Of Philadelphia, though. As for Bowie, I'm not a huge fan, but generally like his music. Fame and I'm Afraid Of Americans are both top shelf tunes, IMO. I don't care much about Springsteen either, but I really like "Nebraska" album. And I don't get much of Bob Dylan's hype- with exception of "Highway 61" & "Blonde on Blonde". I prefer Leonard Cohen to Dylan by wide mile. I do greatly enjoy "Jewels & Binoculars" project though. All three of their CDs are very good. Saw them live in Charlotte some years ago. Great trio. Quote
Scott Dolan Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 HA! Highway '61 and Blonde On Blonde are the only two Dylan albums that I own! That's weird, but yeah, I'm right there with you. Quote
jazzbo Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 Oddly I have never gotten into Cohen and love Dylan. I don't own a single Springsteen recording. We're all different. We live in a great time when so much is available no matter our tastes. Quote
danasgoodstuff Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 On 12/9/2015, 8:26:45, Hot Ptah said: o me, this is a pleasant mainstream jazz album, appealing in its energy. The musicians play with a I really don't hear any of that, YMMV obviously. Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted December 18, 2015 Report Posted December 18, 2015 David Bowie's Blackstar album: 'An unexpected left turn that deepens the mystery' I'm no Bowie fan though I've come to enjoy some of his music over the years. Just want it known that I saw the Jazz Revival coming first. Quote
BFrank Posted December 19, 2015 Report Posted December 19, 2015 He's playing here in Feb. One show already sold out, and they just added a late show. Worth seeing? Quote
mjazzg Posted December 19, 2015 Report Posted December 19, 2015 3 hours ago, BFrank said: He's playing here in Feb. One show already sold out, and they just added a late show. Worth seeing? I can't say myself but my friend who most definitely didn't buy into the hype went to see him in London and was very impressed. The last concerts I attended with this friend were Roscoe Mitchell and Peter Brotzmann so he doesn't set his sights low. The concert was very well received critically (and a second gig was added the following night) but that could well have had elements of wave riding. On 18/12/2015 at 9:09 AM, A Lark Ascending said: David Bowie's Blackstar album: 'An unexpected left turn that deepens the mystery' I'm no Bowie fan though I've come to enjoy some of his music over the years. Just want it known that I saw the Jazz Revival coming first. I read that too. I don't trust Petridis's critical acumen, I'm afraid but I did listen to the sample track and was pleasantly impressed. I've not listened to Bowie since Scary Monsters and not very closely even when I did. I'll give the album a spin when it's out Quote
Scott Dolan Posted December 19, 2015 Report Posted December 19, 2015 I've previewed Blackstar as well. There is definitely no Jazz revival on the horizon. But I did find it a really intriguing listen. Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted December 19, 2015 Report Posted December 19, 2015 My tongue was in its cheek (as ever). I'd imagine most listeners wouldn't give the jazzers a second look. But I'd hope some listeners might want to know what McCaslin does in his day job. That's how I got drawn into jazz (admittedly at one of its fashion downturns [mid/late 70s]). Quote
Scott Dolan Posted December 19, 2015 Report Posted December 19, 2015 Yeah, I knew where you were coming from. I was just shocked by how "not Jazz" it really is. Spyro Gyra is closer to being considered Jazz than what I heard on Blackstar. It does sound like it will be a great album, but Jazz it ain't. Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted December 19, 2015 Report Posted December 19, 2015 Which is how it should be; no point trying to evade your rock cliches only to take on those of another genre. I'm intrigued. Quote
BFrank Posted December 19, 2015 Report Posted December 19, 2015 (edited) 10 hours ago, mjazzg said: I can't say myself but my friend who most definitely didn't buy into the hype went to see him in London and was very impressed. The last concerts I attended with this friend were Roscoe Mitchell and Peter Brotzmann so he doesn't set his sights low. The concert was very well received critically (and a second gig was added the following night) but that could well have had elements of wave riding. Thanks - good to know. I was concerned about the 'hype' about Kamasi overshadowing the 'reality.' Edited December 19, 2015 by BFrank Quote
Hot Ptah Posted December 21, 2015 Report Posted December 21, 2015 https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/in-2015-jazz-reasserted-itself/2015/12/17/f025f3b2-a04d-11e5-a3c5-c77f2cc5a43c_story.html According to this Washington Post article, Kamasi Washington is a prominent part of the resurgence of jazz. Quote
JSngry Posted December 21, 2015 Report Posted December 21, 2015 But jazz made the greatest inroads in the genre least likely to be associated with its free-meter and exploratory melodic sense — EDM. Is EDM what they more or less now call house? If so, I am shocked about this. SHOCKED, I tell you! Quote
Shawn Posted December 21, 2015 Report Posted December 21, 2015 Giving this album another shot this morning and I must say I'm really enjoying it, think I'll be adding this one to the collection soon. Should I forfeit my "Jazz Cred" identification badge since I'm enjoying this album? Quote
jazzbo Posted December 21, 2015 Report Posted December 21, 2015 If so we can start a new club because I've been enjoying it too. Quote
Scott Dolan Posted December 21, 2015 Report Posted December 21, 2015 1 hour ago, JSngry said: Is EDM what they more or less now call house? If so, I am shocked about this. SHOCKED, I tell you! Electronic Dance Music. EDM is the genre, House a sub genre of it. Quote
Hot Ptah Posted December 21, 2015 Report Posted December 21, 2015 2 hours ago, Shawn said: Giving this album another shot this morning and I must say I'm really enjoying it, think I'll be adding this one to the collection soon. Should I forfeit my "Jazz Cred" identification badge since I'm enjoying this album? You may have to forfeit your Platinum Level Organissimo Board Jazz Cred badge. You can keep your Gold Level Jazz Cred badge though. Quote
uli Posted December 21, 2015 Report Posted December 21, 2015 2 hours ago, Shawn said: Should I forfeit my "Jazz Cred" identification badge since I'm enjoying this album? you can exchange it for a jazz critic badge http://www.npr.org/sections/ablogsupreme/2015/12/21/460527087/the-2015-npr-music-jazz-critics-poll Quote
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