El Chicano & Santana

[A Lark Ascending]

Funny, all your parents' music was of the repetitive kind... Well, now Wagner.

You'd be hard pressed to find a better example of music that 'evolves' and varies than Wagner (OK, there are long passages where the storyline gets repeated like one of those Channel Four documentaries) across 'The Ring'.

Not that my parents would have know - it was very much greatest hits! Ride of the Valkyries, Lohengrin Wedding March etc.

R + H is rich in the sort of harmonic variation (unusual shifts to distant keys) that you don't get in the rawer forms of Afro-American music (I'm not criticising the latter - I've come to appreciate the very different richness of blues music subsequently; completely different approaches to harmony).

Edited October 24, 2014 by A Lark Ascending

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Funny, all your parents' music was of the repetitive kind... Well, now Wagner.

You'd be hard pressed to find a better example of music that 'evolves' and varies than Wagner (OK, there are long passages where the storyline gets repeated like one of those Channel Four documentaries) across 'The Ring'.

Not that my parents would have know - it was very much greatest hits! Ride of the Valkyries, Lohengrin Wedding March etc.

R + H is rich in the sort of harmonic variation (unusual shifts to distant keys) that you don't get in the rawer forms of Afro-American music (I'm not criticising the latter - I've come to appreciate the very different richness of blues music subsequently; completely different approaches to harmony).

Danger - Typoman strikes again! I thought I'd typed 'not'

MG

[A Lark Ascending]

'Tubby the Tuba' is a wonderful introduction to variation principle for kids! Thank you Danny Kaye.

Edited October 24, 2014 by A Lark Ascending

[Jim R]

My older brothers were into Tubby The Tuba. I was more attracted to the Hans Christian Andersen (10") LP we had. Still have it, in fact. Always liked "Inchworm" and "Anywhere I Wander" (normally I don't respond all that well to arrangements like this with a background vocal choir, but I find this one to be hauntingly beautiful).

[A Lark Ascending]

Tubby and the Hans Christian Anderson records were all on that tape of my Dad's. We played them again and again c. 1966/67.

Coltrane picked up on Inchworm!

Edited October 24, 2014 by A Lark Ascending

[Jim R]

I must have been listening to HCA around '60/'61. Always liked Danny Kaye, even though some of this work feels a bit dated now.

Re Trane (we're back to him again), yes, and I wish somebody had picked up on "Anywhere I Wander". Maybe I missed it. Or maybe it's forthcoming? (I could almost see Bill Charlap choosing it).

Wow, we've distanced ourselves just a bit from El Chicano here...

[JSngry]

[jazzbo]

Listened to "Azteca" today for the first time in decades thanks to this thread!

[JSngry]

Santana or El Chicano?

Percy Faith has the answer - BOTH!!!

Listened to "Azteca" today for the first time in decades thanks to this thread!

How'd it sit with you?

I need to rebuy their first album, purged it a while back, and need a "real" copy of their second.

But talk about an interesting cast of characters...

[jazzbo]

Both have just been reissued and the sound is excellent.

It was good music to clean the town house to. I like the big fat sound as a change from the smaller Santana group sound, sort of hit me as a Tower of Power vibe to in spots. I'll pop in the second soon and revisit the first, it's stuff that will stand up in the rotation. I'm rotating a lot of stuff lately, I don't have much time at all for critical listening and I'm trying to get as much listening in as possible.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Africando does it on their latest album

How do you get it to come out like a screen?

MG