JSngry Posted July 29, 2014 Report Posted July 29, 2014 It's late, Amazon is no help, and dammit, it's time to hear this guy instead of only knowing about him b/c Dolphy wrote a dedication to him. Where to go, please? Quote
king ubu Posted July 29, 2014 Report Posted July 29, 2014 there are some easy-to-get things, which I don't know though: http://www.amazon.com/Best-Boccherini-Various/dp/B00000416O/ http://www.amazon.de/Complete-Flute-Concertos-Severino-Gazzelloni/dp/B0000041F2/ prob. same stuff on these two (didn't try to figure out): http://www.amazon.com/Flötenkonzerte-Gazzelloni-Severino/dp/B00004TB17/ http://www.amazon.com/Vivaldi-Flute-Concertos-Antonio/dp/9051861087/ probably not the kind of repertoire you imagined ... he seems also to be present on this: http://www.amazon.com/Bach-Brandenburg-Concerti-Johann-Sebastian/dp/B000004164/ also this: http://www.amazon.com/Flute-Concerto-D-Handel/dp/B00008ESIJ/ but this here might be interesting: http://www.amazon.com/Grande-Aulodia-Severino-Gazzelloni/dp/B002AG2NL6/ or this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gro%C3%9Fe-Interpreten-neuer-Musik-Schallplatte/dp/B0041OMJIM there's also a disc with music by Nino Rota: http://www.amazon.com/Severino-Gazzelloni-Plays-Nino-Rota/dp/B00000IK7Y/ Quote
David Ayers Posted July 29, 2014 Report Posted July 29, 2014 By way of modernism, SG playing Boulez on Spotify: Pierre Boulez – Sonatine Pour Flûte Et Piano Quote
king ubu Posted July 29, 2014 Report Posted July 29, 2014 just checked my own files ... haven't started exploring it, but he's on several compositions on this: 50 Jahre Neue Musik in Darmstadt - Internationale Ferienkurse für Neue Musik 1946–1996 (4 CD, col legno) few copies around, it seems:http://www.amazon.de/50-Jahre-Neue-Musik-Darmstadt/dp/B000024ST8 full details:http://www.internationales-musikinstitut.de/media/com_form2content/documents/c1/a442/f14/Darmstadt1996.pdf Quote
jeffcrom Posted July 29, 2014 Report Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) Jim, keep your eye open for this collection on the Ermitage label: It's got Baroque through contemporary pieces, including Varese's "Density 21.5." A Canadian seller has it on Ebay right now - you might not want to pay that much, but this is one to look for. The kind of thing that probably inspired Dolphy is on this 1960s Time/Mainstream album, which is excellent: You're pretty good at sniffing out vinyl; go to it. I have both of these and recommend them. Edited July 29, 2014 by jeffcrom Quote
Niko Posted July 29, 2014 Report Posted July 29, 2014 apparently, some "modern" recordings of Gazzeloni are on the first three discs of Vol 1 here: http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2006/Dec06/Boulez_Domaine_4769209_4768862.htm Quote
JSngry Posted July 29, 2014 Author Report Posted July 29, 2014 Plentiful, bounteous even, directions here, and much appreciated, all of them (and all of you). Quote
king ubu Posted July 30, 2014 Report Posted July 30, 2014 Have that Ermitage on order ... scratched used copy, but that was the only one going at a good price I could find - hope it works out and will be playable - but anyways, thanks Jeff! Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted July 30, 2014 Report Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) apparently, some "modern" recordings of Gazzeloni are on the first three discs of Vol 1 here: http://www.musicweb-international.com/classrev/2006/Dec06/Boulez_Domaine_4769209_4768862.htm Didn't know these had been reissued. I had much of it on vinyl years ago and ordered the 2 sets last night. Thanks for the tip. Edited July 30, 2014 by Chuck Nessa Quote
clifford_thornton Posted July 30, 2014 Report Posted July 30, 2014 Yeah, I'll have to grab these as well. The Time LP above is very good. Quote
B. Clugston Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 Not sure if this is referenced in the links above, but he's all over vol. 3 of The New Music compilation on RCA Victrola from 1968: http://www.discogs.com/Nono-Fukushima-Berio-Lehmann-Rome-Symphony-Orchestra-Bruno-Maderna-The-New-Music-Volume-3/release/2930372 Quote
jeffcrom Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 Not sure if this is referenced in the links above, but he's all over vol. 3 of The New Music compilation on RCA Victrola from 1968: http://www.discogs.com/Nono-Fukushima-Berio-Lehmann-Rome-Symphony-Orchestra-Bruno-Maderna-The-New-Music-Volume-3/release/2930372 I forgot about that one - I've got it as well. Need to give it a listen. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 Those three Victrola LPs must've been among the best-selling avant-garde records in US vinyl history. There's a really nice Italian RCA LP boxed set of those recordings too. Quote
JSngry Posted July 31, 2014 Author Report Posted July 31, 2014 Would anybody happen to know the CD disposition of that Victrola material, all three volumes of it? Either as a set or re-positioned? Also, why did RCA go all "Victrola" for that instead of Red Seal? Quote
clifford_thornton Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 They were budget reissues of material issued overseas first. Victrola was treated as the cheapie-bin classical label, whereas Red Seal was primarily new recordings in higher fidelity with better pressings. That's how I understand it anyway. Quote
JSngry Posted August 7, 2014 Author Report Posted August 7, 2014 The kind of thing that probably inspired Dolphy is on this 1960s Time/Mainstream album, which is excellent: You're pretty good at sniffing out vinyl; go to it. I have both of these and recommend them. Just got a copy of the Time album (on Mainstream)...from an Amazon seller in Georgia...and my copy has that same Roulette sticker on it..how 'bout that! Not exactly cheap, but it's for items like this that letting those other $20 deal-breakers actually break the deal The pressing is fairly clean as far as those things go/went, and I'm trying to imagine the impact his had amongst whoever was listening to it at the time in terms of hardcore flute playing. Even today, damn. I have to think that this is important music, on several levels. Has ANY of the Time Series 200 material seen an reissue outside of those Mainstream LPs, legit or otherwise? Quote
David Ayers Posted August 7, 2014 Report Posted August 7, 2014 I found these featuring Gazzelloni. The first appears to include the material on that LP. http://www.europadisc.co.uk/classical/94526/Earle_Brown:_A_Life_in_Music_Vol.5.htm http://www.europadisc.co.uk/classical/80130/Maderna_-_Grande_Aulodia.htm http://www.europadisc.co.uk/classical/93647/Darmstadt_Aural_Documents_1:_Composers_conducting_their_own_works.htm Quote
David Ayers Posted August 7, 2014 Report Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) So the answer to Jim's question might be that other of these mainstream LPs have been reissued by NEOS Wergo. I don't have time to check. Edited August 7, 2014 by David Ayers Quote
David Ayers Posted August 7, 2014 Report Posted August 7, 2014 In fact i did have time to check - this is a series of 18 LPs for Mainstream curated by Earle Brown which Wergo have reissued in 6 3CD sets. Phew.http://www.wergo.de/shop/de_DE/3/show,269237.html We may now all sleep securely in our beds.The Wergo website includes pdfs of the original LP covers even. Yay. Quote
JSngry Posted August 7, 2014 Author Report Posted August 7, 2014 Thanks, David. It's good to know that that series is available today. The original LPs tend to be kinda expensive if/when they can be found. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted August 7, 2014 Report Posted August 7, 2014 Would anybody happen to know the CD disposition of that Victrola material, all three volumes of it? Either as a set or re-positioned? Also, why did RCA go all "Victrola" for that instead of Red Seal? They were trying to compete with Nonesuch and Turnabout. Columbia was issuing Feldman, Carter, Boulez etc on Odyssey. Quote
JSngry Posted August 8, 2014 Author Report Posted August 8, 2014 Did not know that about Odyssey...makes sense that RCA would offer a counterpart, I suppose. Any idea what the current CD disposition is of that "The New Music" series? Quote
Spontooneous Posted August 19, 2014 Report Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) Backtracking for a moment to the recordings in the Domaine Musical box. The CD box is expensive and hard to find. But look for the old Vox Turnabout budget LP of one of the recordings therein, Boulez's 'le marteau sans maitre.' It's pretty easy to find in the used bins, and Gazzelloni is tearin' it up. Edited August 19, 2014 by Spontooneous Quote
David Ayers Posted August 22, 2014 Report Posted August 22, 2014 That version of Marteau is on the DG Boulez box as an extra. Quote
king ubu Posted August 23, 2014 Report Posted August 23, 2014 Backtracking for a moment to the recordings in the Domaine Musical box. The CD box is expensive and hard to find. Not really:http://www.amazon.fr/gp/aw/d/B000E0W3FAnd: http://www.amazon.fr/gp/aw/d/B000CRQZN Quote
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