Charlie Haden R.I.P.

[clifford_thornton]

yeah, I'd buy the Haden/Hall.

[A Lark Ascending]

Anyone know what the 'folk' theme is that Haden plays on 'Rambin'' and then on many other recordings. He likes to quote it towards the end of a solo - I assume it goes back to his singing days.

I ask because I heard a theme very similar in the instrumental accompaniment of 'I Truly Understand You Love Another Man' by Shortbuckle Roarke and Family (1928) off the 'Really the Blues?' collection. It might be a generic theme. Just curious.

Can be heard here:

[danasgoodstuff]

Anyone know what the 'folk' theme is that Haden plays on 'Rambin'' and then on many other recordings. He likes to quote it towards the end of a solo - I assume it goes back to his singing days.

I ask because I heard a theme very similar in the instrumental accompaniment of 'I Truly Understand You Love Another Man' by Shortbuckle Roarke and Family (1928) off the 'Really the Blues?' collection. It might be a generic theme. Just curious.

Can be heard here:

I think it's "Old Joe Clark" but I'd have to dbl check to be sure.

[A Lark Ascending]

Anyone know what the 'folk' theme is that Haden plays on 'Rambin'' and then on many other recordings. He likes to quote it towards the end of a solo - I assume it goes back to his singing days.

I ask because I heard a theme very similar in the instrumental accompaniment of 'I Truly Understand You Love Another Man' by Shortbuckle Roarke and Family (1928) off the 'Really the Blues?' collection. It might be a generic theme. Just curious.

Can be heard here:

I think it's "Old Joe Clark" but I'd have to dbl check to be sure.

I think you may be right. Just checked it on Youtube and the Haden sequence seems to come in the second half of the tune.

A number of sites confirm this. From one:

Even the famous down-home, country-sounding solo on Ramblin' (from Change of the Century) is really a duet with drummer Billy Higgins, who keeps the whole thing kicking along. Ian Dury lifted part of Haden's solo for the melody of Sex & Drugs & Rock & Roll. When he fessed up to this in London, Haden responded that that was fine because he'd nicked it from an old country-bluegrass song, Old Joe Clark.

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/jul/20/charlie-haden-music-marrow-bones

Thank you.

Edited September 1, 2014 by A Lark Ascending

[JSngry]

[srellek]

I've also heard it argued that Cowboy Charlie might be referencing "Lonesome Valley". In any case, such an unlikely but sublime juxtaposition. What Haden (and his country/hillbilly music grounding) brought to Ornette's music remains under-appreciated.

[JSngry]

What Haden (and his country/hillbilly music grounding) brought to Ornette's music remains under-appreciated.

As does, I think, how "country" Ornette's conception was/is at root.