Orange Is The New Black - Season 2 Underway

[JSngry]

And dammit, we were (and still are) going to start bingewatching tomorrow, but we could have done it tonight, except the gig I thought I had tonight is actually tomorrow night, found that out when I got there. Never had that particular goof occur before, but first time for everything. But yes, tomorrow AM, we begin.

Anybody else getting all in as early as possible?

I was very ambivalent about Season1 at the beginning, but by the end , they had me, hooked me right in there.

[JSngry]

Ambivalence removed, far less focus on the Piper character/prison as novelty angle and much more looking at prisoners, their issues, their back stories, the whole nine (or at least 8).

Very well done, and an ending that I started seeing matierialize about ten minutes before it happened, and even then, not exactly the way I saw it coming (it was even better than expected), so yeah, well worth a weekend bingewatch.

And Uzo Aduba, damn, that's a character for the ages right there, Crazy Eyes is.

[jazzbo]

I haven't checked out this show but may get a look at the discs of season 1 one of these days. I don't do Netflix etc. so it hasn't been easy to see this, but I've heard good things.

[king ubu]

How cool is that, a series about Impulse rekkids?!?

[JSngry]

So...nobody likes this show, or nobody's gotten to the new season yet, or, audience is aging, or...what...

[Shawn]

So...nobody likes this show, or nobody's gotten to the new season yet, or, audience is aging, or...what...

I generally have no interest in "prison dramas", regardless of how good they are, it's just not a subject matter I find entertaining.

[JSngry]

So...nobody likes this show, or nobody's gotten to the new season yet, or, audience is aging, or...what...

I generally have no interest in "prison dramas", regardless of how good they are, it's just not a subject matter I find entertaining.

Kinda like that myself, still haven't looked at The Wire, although everybody tells me Best Show Ever and such, and truthfully went into this one with the prejudice in place, but as it has turned out, OITNB has ended up being a "prison drama" in the way that Eight Men Out was a "baseball movie".

[jlhoots]

Just starting season 1.

Oh & BTW, The Wire was great.

[king ubu]

So...nobody likes this show, or nobody's gotten to the new season yet, or, audience is aging, or...what...

I generally have no interest in "prison dramas", regardless of how good they are, it's just not a subject matter I find entertaining.

Same here ... but then I found "Un prophète" one of the best films of recent years!

And I'd not even heard of the title before, guess we might or might not get to see it over here in two years or so, if some dumbass manager thinks his performance rating might be better if he adds it to the programme.

[.:.impossible]

I'm sure I'll get around to the second season. I thought of it more as a prison comedy?

Edited June 10, 2014 by .:.impossible

[JSngry]

"Prison" is really just the hook, the frame they hang everything on. What it's really about is life choices, making the same mistakes over again (or not), personal character/lack thereof/when-how-why, society conditioning of individual and collective expectations of self and from others, hot lesbians, unhot lesbians, addictions, unmet needs, needs met but not appreciated, needs not understood, needs understood all too well, mostly about addictions and how everybody has them, we are all addicted to something, drugs are just convenient excuses to indulge the urge for addiction (and/or to be addicted), and look out with that, because...just look out for that. Just...do.

It takes place in prison, and not really always, because there's plenty of flashbacks to inmates pre-incarceration and of non-incarcerated people being just as clueless and dangerous to others (if not physically, then emotionally) as people who are inside, and stuff like that.

There's a lot of comedy, a lot of prison-ishness, and a lot of drama, but I can't think of it as being a "prison drama" or a "prison comedy". That to me is like thinking of Bird as "bebop", on the one hand, well, sure, yeah, but on the other, no, not really, not even, "bebop" was just a device, not the end (or the intent). Especially the 2nd season, which I think tells a much more meaningful/broader story from start to finish than did Season One.

[.:.impossible]

Well, yeah. Prison is just the backdrop, as marijuana was for Weeds. I don't think either have much of a serious commentary to consider, unless you really want to go and do that. I mean, hell, folks have done it with Winnie The Pooh. I'm sure Californication has been given weight as well.

I know you are commenting on two seasons, whereas I have only seen the first, and it has been a while, so I'm going on a memory of a feeling.

[JSngry]

Yeah, the first season didn't start really working for me until it was more than half over. Second goes there from jump. Or so it struck me. It's like anything else, you get out of it what you want to. But I found they set up enough there to be found without me having to strain too hard to find it, so, better than defecating a cheap pizza in that regard.There's always that.

Personal admission, I liked Weeds well enough, but ultimately didn't feel rewarded by it. Above-average and quirky (or "quirky"), but didn't rivet me. Very good surface, but not much depth. Then again, it was weed, so maybe that's accurate relative to proportion, or whatever they say in Laguna Beach (if that is really such a place).

Those other things, I don't know about. Hate Pooh on principal (thanks again, Disney) and can't handle all those gaudy loudass cable-comedies like Californication. Just not for me. They're writing songs of love, no doubt, all of them, but not for me.

[JSngry]

Also - the first season did not have Vee. Vee changes everything about this show, imo. Everything.

[Shawn]

Californication I like a lot (especially the first 4 seasons). I admire the audacity of it. It's vulgar, politically incorrect, lots of gratuitous nudity and drug use...and not at all inaccurate to the subject matter. Plus David Duchovny is a "suave fuck" that is always entertaining to watch. The show has definitely run its course by this point, but those first 4 seasons are a real hoot.

[king ubu]

Oh, "Californication" I love! Have only seen seasons 1-3 (I think), but have those and a few more handy on DVD for binge watching. We recently re-watched the first and found it hilariously funny and entertainig again, even though some parts I remeberd line by line.

[.:.impossible]

Californication I like a lot (especially the first 4 seasons). I admire the audacity of it. It's vulgar, politically incorrect, lots of gratuitous nudity and drug use...and not at all inaccurate to the subject matter. Plus David Duchovny is a "suave fuck" that is always entertaining to watch. The show has definitely run its course by this point, but those first 4 seasons are a real hoot.

I agree.

[Soulstation1]

Couldn't make it thru the first episode