blind-blake Posted March 9, 2014 Report Posted March 9, 2014 Anyone know anything about this? Looks interesting, but is the sound OK? Is it legit? Thanks in advance. http://www.jazzmessengers.com/en/65003/horace-silver/live-in-new-york-1953 Quote
jazzbo Posted March 9, 2014 Report Posted March 9, 2014 On Solar Records. . . very slim possibility this is legit. A quartet recording! Interesting. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted March 9, 2014 Report Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) I believe the source is the same as the Uptown Hank Mobley set. I have a list of the "Ozzie Cadena holdiings" somewhere but can't locate it right now. I think NYC and Birdland are red herrings. Edited March 9, 2014 by Chuck Nessa Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted March 9, 2014 Report Posted March 9, 2014 (edited) As I understand it, Uptown has the original tapes but Ozzie gave a dub to Phil Schaap and it was broadcast. This issue must have been taken off the air. Once again a bootlegger foils and kills a better sounding recording. Edited March 10, 2014 by Chuck Nessa Quote
blind-blake Posted March 10, 2014 Author Report Posted March 10, 2014 As I understand it, Uptown has the original tapes but Ozzie gave a dub to Phil Schaap and it was broadcast. This issue must have been taken off the air. Once again a bootlegger foils and kills a better sounding recording. Thanks Chuck. Does this mean that Uptown will now pull the plug on their reissue? That would totally suck. Quote
blind-blake Posted March 10, 2014 Author Report Posted March 10, 2014 Thanks for posting that aparxa. Bass sounds terrible, but interesting, nonetheless. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted March 10, 2014 Report Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) I would pull the plug. Personnel is incorrect - Lloyd Buchanan,bass; Lloyd Turner,drums according to my notes. Edited March 10, 2014 by Chuck Nessa Quote
mikeweil Posted March 10, 2014 Report Posted March 10, 2014 Oh no ..... I was close to ordering a copy, but .... really nice to hear Horace and Lou at the time of their Blue Note sides. Quote
king ubu Posted March 10, 2014 Report Posted March 10, 2014 I would pull the plug. Personnel is incorrect - Lloyd Buchanan,bass; Lloyd Turner,drums according to my notes. The version that was/is in circulation has Jimmy Schenk as well, no idea where the info comes from, I don't think I've ever heard any radio announcements coming with it ... (and that version surely is the only source these bootleggers have access to). These releases suck big time ... I mean I love dime and it's rules are good in my book - the downside is there's no way to keep the bootleggers out - there have been plenty of releases by the likes or RLR, Gambit et al. taken straight from sets presented on dime. Economically, releasing these boots works, I guess, because no one other than the manufacturer needs to get paid anything ... but dammit, I really loathe these releases! Quote
bertrand Posted March 10, 2014 Report Posted March 10, 2014 Is Lou Donaldson really playing tenor on this? Bertrand. Quote
bertrand Posted March 10, 2014 Report Posted March 10, 2014 Good to hear from you Brownie, it's been awhile! Bertrand. Quote
jeffsjazz Posted March 17, 2014 Report Posted March 17, 2014 Brownie, Do you have this reissue? I just ordered it as I was intrigued by the group. Howis the sound? Thanks, Jeff Quote
Hardbopjazz Posted March 17, 2014 Report Posted March 17, 2014 The sound is not that great on this recording. I bought this recording over 6 years ago from ebay. My copy was not a legit copy. Homemade CDR. Quote
brownie Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 I don't have the new release. I have a CDR which was provided by a friend at O. Don't think I'll purchase the new one unless the sound on the bass and drums is improved. Proeminent to the point of being obtrusive on what I have. Great blowing date in any case! Quote
AllenLowe Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) interesting how Bud-ish Silver is on this one. I almost would have guessed it's Walter Bishop. Edited March 18, 2014 by AllenLowe Quote
Michael Weiss Posted March 18, 2014 Report Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) I have it like this: Live at the Pic. (The Picadilly, Newark) September 14, 1953 Lou Donaldson, Horace Silver, Jimmy Schenk, Lloyd Turner You go To My Head Hackensack Things We Did last Summer I'll Remember April Lou's Blues Lloyd Buchanan replaces Jimmy Schenk Billie's Bounce and The Way You Look tonight Lou tells me this was his gig. Edited March 18, 2014 by Michael Weiss Quote
jeffsjazz Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 Nice playing, ATROCIOUS sound. Buyer beware,I bought this and feel ripped off ! Horace sounds like he's in another room playing and the mic sounds like it was covered by a blanket !! Always be weary of those Spaniards ! Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted March 25, 2014 Report Posted March 25, 2014 Nice playing, ATROCIOUS sound. Buyer beware,I bought this and feel ripped off ! Horace sounds like he's in another room playing and the mic sounds like it was covered by a blanket !! Always be weary of those Spaniards ! I can understand that you are weary, but better be WARY, isn't it? As for the description of the sound, sounds like some Boris Rose live recording tape to me. Is it a proven fact that FAR better-sounding copies of that recording are in existence? In that case there still should be a market ... particularly in view of the artists involved and how so many collectors drool about minuscule and highly subjective sound improvements of the umpteenth remastering of this or that BN recording reissue, for example ... Quote
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