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sure as hell wins the "most intriguing thread title" award for this week!

Interesting idea for a gig - I'd be tempted just to see how it pans out if it were local to me - good band

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Those early Wynton tunes were kind of interesting, I tried to get a few people to play them, but nobody here wanted to (then again, a lot of people here then wanted to play either all original or all established, very little interest in other people's new tunes, very little, you gotta way for somebody else to "give it the ok". I suppose, by which time, gee, why wait?), and then their moment passed, Wynton turned into Evil Jazz Dick, and then, who cared? was even less.

Really, what they are is a formalized codification of the 60s Miles band's devices, but at the time the 60s Miles band hadn't become the Archetype that it since did. So, yeah, there will likely be some "good" stuff played, but, hey, good for that then, I caught it first time around, and it was old-fashioned but "fresh" to the general audience then. Now, it's just old-fashioned.

Hell, I had some hopes for it as a "direction" until it actually became one. Then it was like oh....my.....god....NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

The moral of the story - you can rebuild Humpty Dumpty, but you can't put him back together again. So, proceed accordingly, and preferably with fresh eggs.

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Holy crap, i would love to hear this.

"Cool story bro" time. I was a typical Wynton disliker until one day i borrowed Think Of One from a friend on a whim, for a laugh. Lo and behold i really dug it. It was highly likely to be a case of right place/right time/right mood/right weather but i was in. I think i thought i was a bit of a contrarian rebel, too: "look at me, i dig Wynton." There was something perverse about it. I ended up having every Wynton CD up to and including Live at Blues Alley (including classical recordings). I also have a large number of his 90s and 00s albums. It helped that there was stacks of the stuff second hand and going cheap at the local brick and mortar.

Anyway, i admit to having cooled on Wynton a bit but there's still plenty to like there. I would love to hear Wooley and that fantastic bands take on the material.

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I think this is Nate workshopping the Wynton material at Douglass Street Collective:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoMhT3KGzE8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w70n5z_4hmo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ark9m0moXvQ

If I'm right, the videos show, certainly, that Wooley is in a position to match Wynton's technical mastery, which has always been his strong suit. I also think Nate is turning all the tunes inside out, which is rather delicious. What would Wynton think? Maybe he'll come to the show.

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I think this is Nate workshopping the Wynton material at Douglass Street Collective:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoMhT3KGzE8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w70n5z_4hmo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ark9m0moXvQ

If I'm right, the videos show, certainly, that Wooley is in a position to match Wynton's technical mastery, which has always been his strong suit. I also think Nate is turning all the tunes inside out, which is rather delicious. What would Wynton think? Maybe he'll come to the show.

Not sure about the first track (could be Wynton, achingly familiar, can anyone ID it?) but the other two are Wooley songs.

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To be 100% truthfully honest, the tunes and playing on "Black Codes" are great. That's an album I grew up with, when Wynton mania was at it's height. My mom bought that and I think the Haydn trumpet concertos (the one where Wynton has a traditional 3 valve and 4 valve trumpet on the cover). What happened afterwards, with all the politics was just strange. "Knozzmoeking", "Hesitation", "Delfeayo's Dilemma" all great tunes. I still feel Wynton's solo on "The Impaler" from Tain Watts first album in '99 is the last great solo on a record b/c he was really pushing himself, then Branford goes totally bonkers outside, which makes it one of my fav. tunes period. "Live at the House of Tribes" had too much of a forced live recording vibe to it.

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