Shirley Scott

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

25 minutes ago, Larry Kart said:

Here's the compilation:

https://www.amazon.com/8-Classic-Albums-Joe-Newman/dp/B00CM1S1RE/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1521322453&sr=1-1&keywords=joe+newman

Have listened again. Several tracks of "Sweet Swinging Jazz" have Newman vocals; he sings like a trumpet player, which is not a bad thing. Scott is in good form. Not a very good recording, though, Charlie Persip's drums are rather muffled; and the date seems rather thrown together.

Thanks Larry. Not an urgent requirement, then.

MG

[Late]

Great discussion and recommendations on Shirley! I don't know her Impulse! work as well as her Prestige work. I own Girl Talk, which is beautifully recorded but also one of Shirley's tamer efforts.

On a related note — if you get a chance to hear this one, do!

Pitts' work on Prestige is sometimes weighed down by commercial efforts (i.e. her vocals, even though they're not that bad), but this record is pure jam. Some of it's on YouTube. Recommended.

20 hours ago, The Magnificent Goldberg said:

Yes, quite a surprise as it's not a Shirley Scott album. Must be out of copyright.

And ... there was more Shirley on Prestige that could have been added! In addition to Drag 'Em Out, there's also Workin', which has (on some of the tracks) Shirley on organ and Ronnell Bright on piano. Oh yeah — and her quartet date with Lem Winchester!

Shirley Scott Discography. I use this discography to sort out her many recording dates. Her first session with Prestige yielded far more than could be put on one record.

Oh — I also forget that Shirley recorded two Ellington albums for Prestige. I've never heard the second one (Satin Doll).

[Late]

AND ... for Shirley and Lock fans, there's also this one:

Anderson might be an acquired taste, but the record is solid.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

3 hours ago, Late said:

Great discussion and recommendations on Shirley! I don't know her Impulse! work as well as her Prestige work. I own Girl Talk, which is beautifully recorded but also one of Shirley's tamer efforts.

On a related note — if you get a chance to hear this one, do!

Pitts' work on Prestige is sometimes weighed down by commercial efforts (i.e. her vocals, even though they're not that bad), but this record is pure jam. Some of it's on YouTube. Recommended.

And ... there was more Shirley on Prestige that could have been added! In addition to Drag 'Em Out, there's also Workin', which has (on some of the tracks) Shirley on organ and Ronnell Bright on piano. Oh yeah — and her quartet date with Lem Winchester!

Shirley Scott Discography. I use this discography to sort out her many recording dates. Her first session with Prestige yielded far more than could be put on one record.

Oh — I also forget that Shirley recorded two Ellington albums for Prestige. I've never heard the second one (Satin Doll).

I've not heard 'Satin doll' either.

And 'Workin'' isn't ALL Shirley Scott. There's a Don Patterson cut in there, but the discographers got snarled up and forgot to notice it. When I told him, Mike Weil managed to acquire a copy and said he'd rip it for me one day.

It's a real shame that not all the Eddie 'Lockjaw' Davis material he did for King, a lot of it with Shirley, hasn't been reissued.

MG

[Late]

10 hours ago, The Magnificent Goldberg said:

And 'Workin'' isn't ALL Shirley Scott. There's a Don Patterson cut in there ...

It's a real shame that not all the Eddie 'Lockjaw' Davis material he did for King, a lot of it with Shirley, hasn't been reissued.

Actually, I think you mean Stompin'? (The album with the sole Patterson track included?) Workin', though I haven't heard it (though actually just ordered it), has Ronnell Bright on it.

I haven't heard much of the Lockjaw material on King. I do have this comp, which is excellent, and close to the 80 minute mark. (Sorry about the gi-normous image.)

You can hear the entirety of Scott's Soul Sister (quartet recording with Lem Winchester) and Travelin' Light (quartet recording with Kenny Burrell) right here. The first record in particular is in a relaxed deep groove. Both are excellent.

 

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

13 hours ago, Late said:

Actually, I think you mean Stompin'? (The album with the sole Patterson track included?) Workin', though I haven't heard it (though actually just ordered it), has Ronnell Bright on it.

I haven't heard much of the Lockjaw material on King. I do have this comp, which is excellent, and close to the 80 minute mark. (Sorry about the gi-normous image.)

You can hear the entirety of Scott's Soul Sister (quartet recording with Lem Winchester) and Travelin' Light (quartet recording with Kenny Burrell) right here. The first record in particular is in a relaxed deep groove. Both are excellent.

 

Yes, you're right - it was 'Stompin''.

I have that Jaws/Scott compilation - it's Roulette material from 1958.

There are also two nice Moodsville albums. 'Like cozy' and 'Shirley Scott Trio'.

You can (could) get those two on 1 CD - Like cozy PRCD24258

MG

[mikeweil]

On 18.3.2018 at 8:20 AM, The Magnificent Goldberg said:

And 'Workin'' isn't ALL Shirley Scott. There's a Don Patterson cut in there, but the discographers got snarled up and forgot to notice it. When I told him, Mike Weil managed to acquire a copy and said he'd rip it for me one day.

I haven't forgotten about it .... had to disassemble my whole hifi recently as an old window had to be replaced, and still haven't found the time to hook it all up again and find out the way to get the audio signal to the laptop. It will be done, thanks for the reminder. 

https://www.discogs.com/Shirley-Scott-Don-Patterson-Lockjaw-Davis-Stompin/release/3751413

[Late]

Speaking of Patterson, I listened to this one (on YouTube) today:

I wish I had it on vinyl.

[duaneiac]

On 3/17/2018 at 11:10 AM, The Magnificent Goldberg said:

Yeah, but she did later, on 'A walkin' thing' - yeah, the Bennie Carter tune. It was her last album.

By the way, has anyone heard this album, by Joe Newman, featuring Shirley? It's from January 1958, before she started working for Jaws.

 

I never have, either

MG

And - is Joe only wearing socks? Oh, very subliminal for '58!

 

I have it on a CD combined with the album The Happy Cats, but I'm not sure about the socks thing.  Since I had to move a couple months ago, a lot of my collection is still boxed up and I don't have quick access to things.  Maybe being in his stocking feet reflected the "soft" nature of the music promised by the album title?

On 3/17/2018 at 11:35 AM, The Magnificent Goldberg said:

 

And another is the Al Grey-Jimmy Forrest Quintet. Live at Rick's - on Aviva. This also features Shirley. Bits of the session have come out as 'Night train revisited' (Storyville) and as 'Truly wonderful' (Stash). I don't have the Stash.

 

 

I only have the Stash CD and Truly Wonderful was an apt title!

Edited March 21, 2018 by duaneiac

[mjazzg]

On 16/03/2018 at 2:48 AM, mjzee said:

I recently found a used copy of this at Dusty Groove for a very decent price.  Two discs of a very tasty live session with Turrentine.  Keep an eye out for it:

 

Found it and really enjoying it. Thanks for the suggestion

[mjzee]

1 hour ago, mjazzg said:

Found it and really enjoying it. Thanks for the suggestion

Yeah, great album, unfortunate cover - they found a photo that makes her look like Moms Mabley with a hairnet.

[duaneiac]

5 hours ago, mjzee said:

Yeah, great album, unfortunate cover - they found a photo that makes her look like Moms Mabley with a hairnet.

I thought it looked more like LaWanda Page . . .

[JSngry]

Somebody remind me - did the GRP impulse! CD reissue of Queen Of The Organ contain everything that was on that 2LP set?

No matter the format, essential Scott and essential Turrentine, imo!

[mikeweil]

No - one track - Shirley's Shuffle - is missing on the GRP reissue CD. Besides that, the Lord disco shows five more unissued tracks from these sessions. 

Scott/Turrentine would make a nice box set.

Edited April 4, 2018 by mikeweil

[JSngry]

13 minutes ago, mikeweil said:

No - one track - Shirley's Shuffle - is missing on the GRP reissue CD.

Ok, good to know, thanks. No need to sell the LP, then. Or the CD!

[Late]

Listening to Shirley as I type. This CD can still be found for an affordable price.

Never heard Wally Richardson on guitar before. Nice playing.

 

 

[Late]

On 3/16/2018 at 9:52 AM, Late said:

I've never heard the title track!

Thanks to the nachosphere, I've just recently heard the entire record of Drag 'Em Out. Man! That first side is great. And Major Holley's arco solo — groovy! I haven't enjoyed a bowed solo for a long time. That one is simple yet fine. I believe this is Scott's last trio recording for Prestige before moving on to Impulse! I wonder what she thought of it, or what other organ players at the time thought.  

[Late]

This album contains the best version of the jazz standard "Diane" that I've ever heard. (Jimmy Smith covered it too.) I think I played it at least six times on repeat last night.

[kh1958]

On 3/17/2018 at 1:10 PM, The Magnificent Goldberg said:

Yeah, but she did later, on 'A walkin' thing' - yeah, the Bennie Carter tune. It was her last album.

By the way, has anyone heard this album, by Joe Newman, featuring Shirley? It's from January 1958, before she started working for Jaws.

 

I never have, either

MG

And - is Joe only wearing socks? Oh, very subliminal for '58!

 

I have this on LP; he is clearly wearing shoes, as shoelaces are visible.

[andybleaden]

Well I like all the LPs shared here and particularly the sides she did with Stanley T. The one I always come back to when people complain she was a little mellow was the Cadet LP Superstition 

 

Belting tracks all over especially the two Liberation Song and Hanky's Panky

 

Think you can still buy a CD version from Amazon....last time I looked

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Superstition-Shirley-Scott/dp/B00FL95QMW

 

Or listen to it here 

 

 

 

 

 

[joshuakennedy]

On 3/17/2018 at 1:35 PM, The Magnificent Goldberg said:

I'm just listening to Jimmy Forrest's 'Heart of the Forrest'; a trio session on Palo Alto, with Shirley and the one and only Randy Marsh - NO BASS PLAYER!

A damn fine album!

 

Do you know of anywhere I can listen to this online? I saw it at a record store the other day for $5 and almost picked it up, but I haven't heard any of it. I couldn't find anything on Spotify or YouTube.

This album is dope. 

Edited August 3, 2018 by joshuakennedy

[Soulstation1]

 

[JSngry]

6 hours ago, joshuakennedy said:

Do you know of anywhere I can listen to this online? I saw it at a record store the other day for $5 and almost picked it up, but I haven't heard any of it. I couldn't find anything on Spotify or YouTube.

Dude, Forrest for a fin is a no-brainer. Trust me on this one.

[joshuakennedy]

16 hours ago, JSngry said:

Dude, Forrest for a fin is a no-brainer. Trust me on this one.

Is it anything like his other albums (Forrest Fire, Out of the Forrest, etc.)? Or is it more 70s-sounding? I am not a fan of most 70s jazz. 

[JSngry]

It's straight-ahead organ trio jazz made in the 1970s. I think it's better than his Prestige sides because he had advanced as a player and wasn't bashful about it. It's an excellent record. If it's still there, run back and get it before somebody else does.

Some friendly advice - dates are chronological markers, not stylistic imperatives. Don't get trapped by conflating recording dates with musical expectations, there's plenty of bullshit to be had in all decades and with all production trappings or lack thereof.