Shawn Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 Fuckin' A! Love Stanley. Personally I love the CTI albums, he plays phenomenally throughout and they sound great. Simple pleasures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 (edited) I feel like I've been sleeping on Stanley Turrentine. I've known him mostly in the context of small groups with Jimmy Smith--stuff I've enjoyed, but not work I would call stunningly great. I really enjoy his contribution to Burrell's fabulous Midnight Blue. I'm not so big on the organ records with Shirley Scott, nor am I enamored of the big band record Joyride. However, I've been listening to quintet/sextet stuff on Blue Note, a little less funky and more in a straight-ahead bag (usually no organ). Maybe part of it has to do with the company: Lee Morgan, Elvin Jones, McCoy Tyner, Curtis Fuller, Herbie Hancock, Blue Mitchell, Grant Green, etc. Seems like really good stuff, especially my main focus so far--the record In Memory Of. Feel free to add your views on the original Mr. T. Edited January 10, 2014 by Jim R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Love ST. Too lazy to think of my favorites, but I do find that Joyride and The Spoiler are underrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Very much like the recordings of the Max Roach quintet with the Turrentine brothers snd Julian Priester, too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Very much like the recordings of the Max Roach quintet with the Turrentine brothers snd Julian Priester, too! Ditto, and (iirc) all piano-less too! -- a very 'open' sounding group, really top drawer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 They added a piano for (some of?) the album with Abbey, I think. The Enja disc is my favourite so far, looking forward to hearing the two new TCBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 ZT's blues - rec 13 Sep 1961 - with Grant Green, Tommy Flanagan, Paul Chambers & Art Taylor. First issued in 1985. Stanley was never better. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Hm, always found that one quite a bit weaker than the line-up would let you hope (and assumed that was one of the reasons it wasn't released initially). Not saying it's bad, but ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 It has what I think is GG's loveliest solo ever (on 'More than you know'). Stan's solo on this cut is particularly lovely. He often starts a phrase an octave (I assume) above the written note with the rest of the line tending in a downwards direction, rather than upwards, which I always find very lovely. Compared with Hawk's version (on 'The Hawk relaxes'), Stan's PLAYING the song, rather than doing a lot of improvisation around it, giving us not an interpretation but THE SONG, seeming to sing the words through his sax. Course, I know all you jazz fans like improvisation MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Hm, always found that one quite a bit weaker than the line-up would let you hope (and assumed that was one of the reasons it wasn't released initially). Not saying it's bad, but ... I am with the king. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 It doesn't add up/hang together as an album, but it certainly has its moments, IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Can't remember, too long ago since I last heard it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtSalt Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Apparently, Turrentine was very popular with the original modernists/mods in the UK, back in the early 60s. I like his Blue Note stuff, extremely accessible to the non-jazz fan. I often hear people rapture lyrically about the best album to introduce people to the joys of jazz to, generally they opt for Miles's E.S.P. or Kind of Blue, but I would tempt them with a little sugar from Turrentine in the mid-60s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Can't remember, too long ago since I last heard it.Just listened to Z.T.'s Blues again. To my ears it's a nice "late-night" date, not bad but nothing special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milestones Posted January 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 I've been digging bit more into the Shirley Scott stuff and feeling I've been too dismissive. I think my next Mr. T. will be Hustlin' with Shirley Scott and Kenny Burrell. I enjoy the stuff with Jimmy Smith, both early and late. I'm also liking the gospel song posted here. Yeah, Turrentine is naturally suited to this kind of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 I've been digging bit more into the Shirley Scott stuff and feeling I've been too dismissive. I think my next Mr. T. will be Hustlin' with Shirley Scott and Kenny Burrell. Don't miss "Queen of the Organ" on Impulse! - some badass music on that one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulstation1 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 You can never have enough Stan The Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherbored Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 You can never have enough Stan The Man or Shirley The Woman..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 or Shirley the girly, not that I'm doubting that she was, in all kinds of ways, fully grown, but it don't have the same ring to it if it don't rhyme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 For all the talk about "real jazz", the first time I heard Sugar I was struck by how much more straight-ahead it was than some of the later, more commercial BN stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 For all the talk about "real jazz", the first time I heard Sugar I was struck by how much more straight-ahead it was than some of the later, more commercial BN stuff. If you're talking 'bout Always Something There or The Look of Love, sure, but the other late BN stuff, not really, but then what's 'straight ahead' depends on where you think you're going... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 18, 2014 Report Share Posted January 18, 2014 And truthfully, Sugar is my least favorite of the CTIs. The title cut is a gem, of course, and was a jazz-radio & juke-box hit like nobody's business, a tune that still gets played in all kinds of spaces and all kinds of places, but the rest of the album sounds a little hollow to me. But then here comes Salt Song, and then Don't Mess With Mister T, and hey, there's your Stanley Turrentine zeitgeist, right there with those two, I think. And then he went to Fantasy...and whatever zeitgeist that might have been was largely attained away from mine (although in retrospect, etc.). Going from Queen Of The Organ *agreed, a must-have!), The Scott/Turrentine dates on Prestige seem just a little bit less-than-perfect to me, but the other Impulse! recordings don't...there's versions of "Time After Time" & "The Lamp Is Low" to be had there that could be labeled "definitive" without any disagreement from me. Nothing like that on Prestige, and I wonder why. Anyway, if the hippest hip and/ot the swingest swing is that which is so merely by being itself, then here we go... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7pVRzbawX8 He didn't need to wear that sweater. But he did. Kudos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Maybe he was trying to get in one of them Ski Party movies, like James Brown did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 I've a couple of the Fantasy albums - 'Everybody come on out' which is a bit poppy but nonetheless has some really nice stuff in it, and 'Use the stairs' which is a straight big band album, arranged by Wade Marcus and has some very splendid stuff, though I'd have preferred more standards like 'Jordu' and 'On a misty night'. Glad to be reminded, will get this out and listen later. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon8 Posted January 23, 2014 Report Share Posted January 23, 2014 He makes a great team with Ike Quebec (& Bennie Green & Sonny Clark, Blakey & Hinton) on that one. Love his solo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQKC5jL_0lQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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