Prestige 7000 Series on SHM-CD

[erwbol]

I spun Worktime again earlier today, and had similar sentiments. I'm glad to hear the Monks are also excellent. With a little luck the first two Monks will be here tomorrow.

[RiRiIII]

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Wow. I have to say this sounds excellent. I honestly would be even more excited about the new Blue Note reissues if they were engineered like this. ...

Amen to that!

[Clunky]

Jackie's Pal arrived this morning. Sounds very nice but I've only the version on Spotify to compare . Not a fair comparison but the CD has better fuller bass and a less metallic sound to it. Very nice session.

[jazzbo]

Interesting interview with the mastering engineer of this series, Paul Blakemoore, working out of Concord Music Group mastering studios here in Cleveland.

http://www.uaudio.com/blog/artist-interview-paul-blakemore/

Here's a portion:

How does mastering jazz differ from other genres, such as rock, pop, and classical?

They’re all very different styles. Jazz, for example, is sort of in between classical and rock. It needs some kind of dynamic range control, but not really aggressive, whereas rock wants much more aggressive dynamic range control to simulate the live, loud-band listening experience. In classical, there’s little (if any) dynamic range control, because one of the key aspects of expression in classical music is the dynamic contrast. The differences between the soft passages and the loud passages play a very important musical function, so you want to maintain those in classical mastering.

You also want to optimize the music for whatever the delivery format is. In jazz you do some dynamic range restriction, but it’s a wider dynamic range than rock. Rock generally has a much more constricted dynamic range.

So you generally aim to keep most jazz fairly open, with its natural dynamics?

Exactly. It also depends on the style of jazz. There are certain kinds of jazz fusion that I do a lot of, because there are a couple of different labels in the label group that do a lot of this sort of contemporary jazz that’s kind of a fusion of pop and rock with jazz. Stylistically, those generally want a greater amount of dynamic range control and a louder overall presentation than a straight-ahead jazz album. But it also depends on the artist, and on the instrumentation. Some of the artists want a more aggressive dynamic range control than others. Some of them want things to really be fairly wide open dynamically. Every project has its own set of puzzles.

Edited February 23, 2014 by jazzbo

[erwbol]

Thanks for that link, Lon.

I'm making a list of titles released so far. I'm pasting it into The list will be finished later today, and, like the BN list, I'll try to keep it up to date once more titles are announced.

[jazzbo]

Just discovered these three were released. Sigh. I had to order them.

UCCO-5366 Yusef Lateef / Other Sounds [sHM-CD]
CDA 1800yen Released: 2013/11/20

UCCO-5381 Yusef Lateef / Cry! - Tender [sHM-CD]
CDA 1800yen Released: 2013/12/18

UCCO-5385 Doug Watkins / SOULNIK [sHM-CD]
CDA 1800yen Released: 2013/12/18

[erwbol]

On 19th March, with Barbara Lea's Lea In Love (originally Prestige LP 7100), the whole of the Prestige 7000 series will have been made available on SHM CD.

Edited February 23, 2014 by erwbol

[jazzbo]

Quite an accomplishment!

[erwbol]

Yes, and they're already releasing titles from New Jazz as well, like Mal/4 (New Jazz 8208).

[jazzbo]

Right, and the Doug Watkins above.

[bertrand]

Is there any hope that Bobby Timmons' Holiday Soul might show up? I gave up on Concord,

Bertrand.

[erwbol]

The 7400 series? That could take a while, even at the current rate.

[erwbol]

I'm familiar with those sites. Your Japanese is obviously better than mine.

I make these lists for my own benefit. I might as well post them here.

[ArtSalt]

Thanks for that release discography erwbol, a very handy aide memoire when ordering and will assist in my mission to eventuall get the whole of the 7000 series.

[etherbored]

i'm approaching reissue atrophy here. i haven't even started on this series, other than to earmark 'outward bound'. i already have many of them on mini lp from a series many years ago... however, i've never had 'conception', which is really a collecting faux pas, so that goes on the list. as does 'hope meets foster', james moody's 'hi fi party' (after all, who doesn't like a hi-fi party....?), maybe the barbara lea (?), and, that's the problem: every single title is really worthy of a place in good collection.

[Clunky]

I'm familiar with those sites. Your Japanese is obviously better than mine.

I make these lists for my own benefit. I might as well post them here.

Thanks for the list. I missing rather a lot of these from my collection. I'll be very selective. I've none of the "Mal" titles by Waldron I may content my self with one or two or just accept that I don't need to own these in any format as I can hear them on Spotify.

[Late]

Every single title is really worthy of a place in good collection.

True. That said, I especially wouldn't want to be without any of the McLean titles. Jackie's work for Prestige/New Jazz unfairly gets overlooked in relation to his output for Blue Note. Makin' The Changes is a particular favorite.

Did anyone else here notice that there's a new UCCO (prefix) reissue line coming out in May? They're not SHM-CDs, however. Later Prestige titles, including Bobby Timmons' session with Wayne Shorter.

[erwbol]

I think these are probably re-issues of titles in the Jazz The Best series. These feature Japanese DSD remastering from 2007. Selected titles are put out there again each year in limited editions. Dolphy's Five Spot Vol.2 was last re-issued as UCCO-90079 in 2012, now it is given UCCO-90248. This mastering was first released in 2007 as UCCO-5047. That last code is actually in the matrix ring of UCCO-90079.

Bobby Timmon's The Soul Man! released as UCCO-9932 in 2010, now it's given UCCO-90265.

Eric Dolphy's Memorial Album UCCO-9307 in 2008, now UCCO-90254.

With the recent Coltrane SHM series, Universal Japan re-released four titles in the Jazz The Best series at the same time. These featured the over a decade old K2 remastering.

Note that Five Spot Vol.1 is not scheduled for re-release in May. This might actually indicate it is about to be re-issued as an SHM instead, since it is part of the New Jazz 8200 series, NJ 8260. Five Spot Vol.2 and Memorial Album are part of the Prestige 7200 (7294) and 7300 (7334) series respectively, and so still some time off as SHMs.

Edited February 24, 2014 by erwbol

[RiRiIII]

i'm approaching reissue atrophy here. i haven't even started on this series, other than to earmark 'outward bound'. i already have many of them on mini lp from a series many years ago... however, i've never had 'conception', which is really a collecting faux pas, so that goes on the list. as does 'hope meets foster', james moody's 'hi fi party' (after all, who doesn't like a hi-fi party....?), maybe the barbara lea (?), and, that's the problem: every single title is really worthy of a place in good collection.

Same here. I had got a lot from these mini lp K2 series from 2006/07. Then I supplemented them with some from the DSD mini lps series (e.g. Sonny Rollins 4). I also ordered Conception and will do a quick comparison with the old OJC. I am far more tempted by these Prestige SHMs than with the BN ones.

[Late]

I'm looking forward to the Prestige 7100 SHM-CD series (if there is one). Two reasons (at least):

Beautifully recorded. Has Frank Wess. Has Paul Quinichette. Also some guy by the name of Coltrane.

Jackie. And the Coltrane guy again.

[Late]

Original cover?

[Late]

This:

http://www.jazzlists.com/SJ_Label_Prestige_7000.htm

is a helpful site that simplifies and categorizes most (all?) of the issued Prestige recordings (along with other labels). It has that functional "at-a-glance" utility that allows one to see what LPs were from what series.

[erwbol]

Plus 4 and Tenor Madness should be here any day now.

There is so much to choose from at the moment. Just ordered Moving Out and Saxophone Colossus. I'm guessing Saxophone Colossus has the same mastering as the Platinum SHM-CD from late last year.

[jazzbo]

I've been spinning the Miles Davis and Milt Jackson Quartet/Quintet SHM-CD a lot since it arrived and really really digging it. The two Bennie Green SHM-CDs are also excellent. This is a great series, and I have to stop buying discs for a while, or I'd be all over these. I hope they hang around for a while.

In this case the mastering is really making a difference, the "super hard material" may be making a bit of a difference, but the mastering is the reason to buy these imo. I like the mastering on the new Blue Note cds as well, but the improvements on these new Prestige masterings seems a bit larger to me. And interestingly in the case of the Blu-Spec 2 cds I've bought using masterings I have on regular cd, the Blu-Spec material and pressing method seem to have really had an impact as these sound improved, quite noticeably to me on my system, with the same materings.

I have the Lateef Prestige SHM-CDs in the mail to me, looking forward to them!

[Clunky]

I've been spinning the Miles Davis and Milt Jackson Quartet/Quintet SHM-CD a lot since it arrived and really really digging it. The two Bennie Green SHM-CDs are also excellent. This is a great series, and I have to stop buying discs for a while, or I'd be all over these. I hope they hang around for a while.

In this case the mastering is really making a difference, the "super hard material" may be making a bit of a difference, but the mastering is the reason to buy these imo. I like the mastering on the new Blue Note cds as well, but the improvements on these new Prestige masterings seems a bit larger to me. And interestingly in the case of the Blu-Spec 2 cds I've bought using masterings I have on regular cd, the Blu-Spec material and pressing method seem to have really had an impact as these sound improved, quite noticeably to me on my system, with the same materings.

I have the Lateef Prestige SHM-CDs in the mail to me, looking forward to them!

How do the Bennie Green's compare to his BN dates. ?