BillF Posted December 16, 2013 Report Posted December 16, 2013 http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/dec/16/why-do-americans-write-the-month-before-the-day Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted December 16, 2013 Report Posted December 16, 2013 :lol: The article linked above and particularly the comments to that article sum it up. Nothing else to add. Quote
kinuta Posted December 16, 2013 Report Posted December 16, 2013 Here it's Y/M/D. However you have to contend with two ways of expressing the year. This year is 2013 or Heisei 25. Every time an emperor pops his clogs the calendar is reset to zero and a new name is attached. The Imperial Household Agency apparently dreams them up. To show how ridiculous and confusing this is, even my missus, who is Japanese, wasn't sure of the Heisei date. Another mad concept is that Sunday is the first day of the week so caution is always needed when looking at back to front calendars. Quote
Head Man Posted December 16, 2013 Report Posted December 16, 2013 The map suggests that Afghanistan and most of Africa don't seem to know what day of the week it is! Not much new there, then. Quote
Kevin Bresnahan Posted December 16, 2013 Report Posted December 16, 2013 One thing I always wondered about this... doesn't it make sense to abbreviate something said out loud as "December sixteenth, two-thousand and thirteen" to 12/16/13? Does the rest of the world state dates differently from the US? I can see if you state today's date as "the sixteenth of December, two-thousand and thirteen", then 16/12/13 makes sense. Is that how it's done there? Numerical dates are simply abbreviations of stated dates and abbreviations typically follow syntax. No one would abbreviate "emergency room" as RE. Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted December 16, 2013 Report Posted December 16, 2013 Does the rest of the world state dates differently from the US? I can see if you state today's date as "the sixteenth of December, two-thousand and thirteen", then 16/12/13 makes sense. Is that how it's done there? Two things: 1) Yes. That's how it is spoken in other parts of the world, including non-English-speaking parts of the world. 2) Note that it is not the "rest" of the world, you know. It's probably this schism between US and UK English that is quite baffling to some, particularly since IIRC the "US" order used to exist in the UK (and their sphere of influence) too (at least if the day and month but not the year were mentioned) but has long been superseded by something that follows the orders of "magnitude" more logically, i.e. either start out with the smallest unit and work your way to the largest, or vice versa. But not a mishmash. Or would you use the same mishmashed sequence when it comes to units of length, for example, e.g. when you have to use yards, feet and inches? Like others have said before, if you want to put the month before the day, then probably the Scandinavian order (like 2013-12-16 for today) would be the most logical one in the long run. Quote
ejp626 Posted December 16, 2013 Report Posted December 16, 2013 Poor Canada is even more exceptional in that all three forms of date can apparently be found. That's what comes from being browbeat by the UK, the US and increasingly China. Though in truth, I've normally seen DD-MM-YYYY. However, it is true that my (former) manager insisted that file names for final drafts all start with the date the document was finalized in the YYYY-MM-DD convention. Quote
AllenLowe Posted December 16, 2013 Report Posted December 16, 2013 the real problem is on March 3. Quote
JSngry Posted December 16, 2013 Report Posted December 16, 2013 I went to work with no socks on one day, left home already late, figured I'd save time. Husteled in, sat down, and got to work right away. One lady stood and stared for a while and finally said, "Jim, I think it's odd that you don't have any socks on." "Nancy." I said (for that was indeed her name), "don't you find it even more odd that, not only do you look at people's ankles to see if they're wearing socks or not, but that you have nothing more productive to do with your time here in this office surrounded by work but to stop said work and issue a verbal commentary about my lack of socks?" Well, everybody else LOL-ed, Nancy got pissed as hell, but everybody went back to work, and even if it only mattered half-a-damn, that work was still exponentially more important than who did or did not have socks on while it was getting done. Quote
erwbol Posted December 16, 2013 Report Posted December 16, 2013 Americans write the month before the day. Godless European and Russian Socialists/Communists write the day before the month. Therefore God exists! Quote
AllenLowe Posted December 16, 2013 Report Posted December 16, 2013 january 1 february 2 april 4 May 5 June 6 July 7 August 8 September 9 October 10 November 11 December 12 January 13 Quote
xybert Posted December 16, 2013 Report Posted December 16, 2013 Poor Canada is even more exceptional in that all three forms of date can apparently be found. That's what comes from being browbeat by the UK, the US and increasingly China. Though in truth, I've normally seen DD-MM-YYYY. However, it is true that my (former) manager insisted that file names for final drafts all start with the date the document was finalized in the YYYY-MM-DD convention. Day Month Year here, but at work we file stuff under Year Month Day too... Quote
skeith Posted December 16, 2013 Report Posted December 16, 2013 We'll put the day first when the Brits stop telling us how many stones they weigh!!!! Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted December 16, 2013 Report Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) Year month day seems more sensible to me. Storing minutes of meetings is a bugger any other way. Made worse with terms that start in September. I always name them 13_09_12, 13_09_26 etc so I don't get chaos when it gets to Jan 2014. But other people don't and I get confused. Edited December 16, 2013 by A Lark Ascending Quote
jazztrain Posted December 16, 2013 Report Posted December 16, 2013 This might be of interest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country Quote
Neal Pomea Posted December 16, 2013 Report Posted December 16, 2013 The 7th of December, 1941. A date that will live in infamy. Quote
skeith Posted December 16, 2013 Report Posted December 16, 2013 The 7th of December, 1941. A date that will live in infamy. Actually it is the 16th of December 2013 for your information!!! Quote
JSngry Posted December 16, 2013 Report Posted December 16, 2013 I believe there was some coy referencing going on. Quote
GregK Posted December 17, 2013 Report Posted December 17, 2013 No wonder I was so confused when I left Canada for America. Wasn't sure what month/day it was Quote
skeith Posted December 17, 2013 Report Posted December 17, 2013 I hope no Brits or for that matter Neal were offended by my attempt at humor!!!! Quote
Neal Pomea Posted December 17, 2013 Report Posted December 17, 2013 Not at all, skeith! I understood the humor (humour). Quote
JSngry Posted December 17, 2013 Report Posted December 17, 2013 Humour is at the centre of my universe, them and misplaced and/or unnecessary vowels. Quote
Mike Schwartz Posted December 17, 2013 Report Posted December 17, 2013 It's just the right thing to do, like driving on the RIGHT side of the road! Quote
Jazzmoose Posted December 19, 2013 Report Posted December 19, 2013 Because that's the way we do it, and no sidewindin' bushwackin', hornswagglin' cracker croaker is gonna tell us different! Quote
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