B. Clugston Posted September 27, 2013 Report Posted September 27, 2013 I never did find a detailed account of what the issues are and most of the online references to the lawsuit have disappeared since the "truce." There's a few references here: http://beta.forcedexposure.com/ReviewJohnFahey.aspx http://www.paristransatlantic.com/magazine/monthly2004/11nov_text.html Quote
lipi Posted September 27, 2013 Report Posted September 27, 2013 Lossless? For these sources? Do no want, do not need. One can just as easily say "Lossy? For these sources? I don't want to lose any more data!". It's not trivially true that a poor recording will suffer less (or more) by being encoded lossy. In any case: my main reason for wanting lossless is that I don't want to be tied to any one format. If I want to re-encode in funny-format-x, I want to start with a lossless file--converting lossy-to-lossy leads to trouble. Quote
jeffcrom Posted September 28, 2013 Report Posted September 28, 2013 so here's what annoys me. I am totally blind. I use a screan reader called nvda, look it up if you don't believe me and i am not going to be able to read the books. I just want the flipping music! i collect 78s myself and would love to hear some of it. now let's just hope they do release these as separate lps, or something, because if you're paying for a nice wooden case with some records in it you're not really paying for the music, interested though you may be in it. appologies for sounding a tad self pitying but really... I have a friend here in Atlanta whose screen reader had the hardest time pronouncing "Bix Beiderbecke." It came out something like "By-der-be-kee," with the emphasis on the second syllable. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted September 28, 2013 Report Posted September 28, 2013 If this set popped up on iTunes for $.99 a track it would cost more than $469 or whatever. Consider the box, the lps, the notes, the research and the discography a bonus. I am only speaking of $ value, nothing else. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted September 28, 2013 Report Posted September 28, 2013 I just want to hear the music. Don't care about the wooden case. Who's doing the notes? Lossless? For these sources? Do no want, do not need. Is there a song list yet? The 800 tracks are listed in a PDF available on the site. Quote
paul secor Posted September 28, 2013 Report Posted September 28, 2013 I'll never listen to 800 Paramount tracks in the rest of my lifetime, so I have no interest in this box. Maybe if I were 20-25 years old and figured I'd have plenty of time left, I'd give it a shot. Then again, if I were 20-25 years old, I'd probably have no interest in Paramount. Quote
cih Posted September 28, 2013 Author Report Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) Well, i liked the music when i was 20-25.. there must be others out there now (though they're unlikely to have the cash i suppose) Edited September 28, 2013 by cih Quote
king ubu Posted September 28, 2013 Report Posted September 28, 2013 I just want to hear the music. Don't care about the wooden case. Who's doing the notes? Lossless? For these sources? Do no want, do not need. Is there a song list yet? The 800 tracks are listed in a PDF available on the site. too dumb to find it ... link please? Quote
AllenLowe Posted September 28, 2013 Report Posted September 28, 2013 I would love to hear those 800 - just llistening to the samples left me thrilled - there is just something about that era; it's all new and strange and beautiful, from country to gospel to blues. It's like going right to the source. Quote
bogdan101 Posted September 28, 2013 Report Posted September 28, 2013 I would love to hear those 800 - just llistening to the samples left me thrilled - there is just something about that era; it's all new and strange and beautiful, from country to gospel to blues. It's like going right to the source. There are a few JSP boxes with Paramount material; I have the one that has about 100 blues tracks. Quote
Ted O'Reilly Posted September 28, 2013 Report Posted September 28, 2013 so here's what annoys me. I am totally blind. I use a screan reader called nvda, look it up if you don't believe me and i am not going to be able to read the books. I just want the flipping music! i collect 78s myself and would love to hear some of it. now let's just hope they do release these as separate lps, or something, because if you're paying for a nice wooden case with some records in it you're not really paying for the music, interested though you may be in it. appologies for sounding a tad self pitying but really... I have a friend here in Atlanta whose screen reader had the hardest time pronouncing "Bix Beiderbecke." It came out something like "By-der-be-kee," with the emphasis on the second syllable. When I was at a public station here in Toronto, I offered to play listeners' favourites when they made a donation. One of the telephone volunteers passed on a request for "Big Spider Beck". Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted September 28, 2013 Report Posted September 28, 2013 I have a friend here in Atlanta whose screen reader had the hardest time pronouncing "Bix Beiderbecke." It came out something like "By-der-be-kee," with the emphasis on the second syllable. When I was at a public station here in Toronto, I offered to play listeners' favourites when they made a donation. One of the telephone volunteers passed on a request for "Big Spider Beck". :lol: So it wasn't the listener who sent in the request that way but some clueless typist transcribed the listener's phone call like that?? Quote
cih Posted September 28, 2013 Author Report Posted September 28, 2013 I would love to hear those 800 - just llistening to the samples left me thrilled - there is just something about that era; it's all new and strange and beautiful, from country to gospel to blues. It's like going right to the source. There are a few JSP boxes with Paramount material; I have the one that has about 100 blues tracks. For the blues stuff I have a large number of Document complete works, and there's also a great deal on Spotify - but i'm a fan and not an 'expert', so knowing what was actually released on Paramount and what wasn't isn't my strong point.. but i would very much like to have this set at some point in the future (makes me nervous that this is 'volume 1'), though each time i mention it in passing at home i get very cold breeze from my other half :-o Quote
AllenLowe Posted September 28, 2013 Report Posted September 28, 2013 (edited) the samples that they had had on their page, at least for while, were largely new to me. And incredible. and in signifcantly better sound than the JSPs, I should add. Edited September 28, 2013 by AllenLowe Quote
medjuck Posted September 28, 2013 Report Posted September 28, 2013 I would love to hear those 800 - just llistening to the samples left me thrilled - there is just something about that era; it's all new and strange and beautiful, from country to gospel to blues. It's like going right to the source. There are a few JSP boxes with Paramount material; I have the one that has about 100 blues tracks.Me too. I think it cost about $20. But I think Allen already has that. IIRC I bought it on his recommendation. Quote
Neal Pomea Posted September 28, 2013 Report Posted September 28, 2013 I just want to hear the music. Don't care about the wooden case. Who's doing the notes? Lossless? For these sources? Do no want, do not need. Is there a song list yet? The 800 tracks are listed in a PDF available on the site. Link please. I do not see a PDF with the song list at this site: http://thirdmanrecords.com/news/view/paramount-records-wonder-cabinet Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 Looks like the site has changed. I was able to download the 2 books and a tracklist as PDFs. Quote
J.A.W. Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 Yep. The tracklisting was there but has disappeared. I wonder why. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 Maybe they freaked out when the gazillion dollar Tommy Johnson 78 popped up. Quote
cih Posted September 29, 2013 Author Report Posted September 29, 2013 My guess is that they made an error making the two books available - which was a major piece of work handed out for free. They shut down access to that original promo page and replaced with the new one a couple of days after Quote
AllenLowe Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 (edited) I want to hear the samples, which are also gone, damn. Yes, Joe; there are a number of very good JSPs of Paramounts (a total of 2-3 boxes) of which the Paramount Masters is the best, I think. It's just that from what I saw (briefly) on the samples page, this set is going to have some astonishingly rare things in it. which might just kill me if I cannot get them. Edited September 29, 2013 by AllenLowe Quote
jazzbo Posted September 29, 2013 Report Posted September 29, 2013 You really should have this box Allen, if anyone should! Quote
rgodridge Posted September 30, 2013 Report Posted September 30, 2013 hmm, so i misse the pdf of the books? rite, well at least i know that if i order it i should be entitled to have those books, in pdf form so i can read them for free and not have to have someone read to me. What makes me a little nervous is that the flash drive will aparrently hae a program/ap on it that lets you listen to the songs. If I or anyone else had to hack into that to grab the mp3s that would be stupid. I doubt i'll be ordering it anyway... pretty high price. by the way i am 23 years old, so there are young people digging this music out there. jjef, my screan reader does pronounce bix's name correctly, but my friend had jaws for windows which does what you said to his name, id make me laugh! Quote
Blue Train Posted September 30, 2013 Report Posted September 30, 2013 Exactly. Like most everything.....the pdf's could have been found using the cached feature, but you can't even do that. My guess is that they made an error making the two books available - which was a major piece of work handed out for free. They shut down access to that original promo page and replaced with the new one a couple of days after Quote
Blue Train Posted September 30, 2013 Report Posted September 30, 2013 (edited) hmm, so i misse the pdf of the books? rite, well at least i know that if i order it i should be entitled to have those books, in pdf form so i can read them for free and not have to have someone read to me. What makes me a little nervous is that the flash drive will aparrently hae a program/ap on it that lets you listen to the songs. If I or anyone else had to hack into that to grab the mp3s that would be stupid. I doubt i'll be ordering it anyway... pretty high price. by the way i am 23 years old, so there are young people digging this music out there. jjef, my screan reader does pronounce bix's name correctly, but my friend had jaws for windows which does what you said to his name, id make me laugh! In this day and age, I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up online for free (especially with White involved)....and the programs thing are really not that difficult to get around. Edited September 30, 2013 by Blue Train Quote
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