etherbored Posted July 29, 2014 Report Posted July 29, 2014 this session is so fine i'm literally embarrassed of my prior apathy towards it. one question; is the version of "count every star" omitted here that's on the north american issue an alternate of that on quebec's "blue and sentimental"....? i -could- reach for the discography, but that would defeat the purpose of continuing the thread. thanks to all who encouraged this date. Quote
mikeweil Posted July 29, 2014 Report Posted July 29, 2014 ... People spend their money as they will. I know a guy who spends more than that a month on booze. I can't conceive of either expenditure. Quote
etherbored Posted July 29, 2014 Report Posted July 29, 2014 really? no answers from the braintrust here yet? everybody must be on holiday. 'matador' tonight....! Quote
romualdo Posted July 29, 2014 Report Posted July 29, 2014 really? no answers from the braintrust here yet? everybody must be on holiday. 'matador' tonight....! The same version of "Count Every Star" was released on 3 US CDs plus the Mosaic Green/Clark - there wasn't an alternate take 1. Complete quartets of Green & Clark (2CD) 2. GG's "Born To Be Blue" 3. IQ's "Blue & Sentimental" (McMaster & RVG) Quote
etherbored Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 'drums around the corner' sounds phenomonal... very happy i snagged this one. the only title i didn't pick up (that i didn't already have, or want) is ' zt's blues'... i think it goes on the next order. Quote
ArtSalt Posted August 3, 2014 Report Posted August 3, 2014 ZT Blues is good, you won't be disappointed with that session of Turrentine's. Quote
erwbol Posted August 3, 2014 Report Posted August 3, 2014 Can anyone provide some info on the two bonus tracks from Tina Brooks' Back to the Tracks? The XRCD24 (released in January 2014 without bonus material) was on my shopping list, but now I'm undecided. Quote
etherbored Posted August 3, 2014 Report Posted August 3, 2014 'melonae's dance' and 'medina' are from a septermber 1st, 1960 session previously issued on 'street singer' and the mcmaster edition of 'jackie's bag'. Quote
etherbored Posted August 3, 2014 Report Posted August 3, 2014 why would you delete your thank you....? Quote
erwbol Posted August 3, 2014 Report Posted August 3, 2014 (edited) Thank you. That is helpful information. Is there any explanation in Cuscuna's liner notes why these two tracks? According to Wikipedia's page on the Street Singer 1 September 1960 session there was one other Brooks composition, Isle Of Java, while Melonae's Dance is a McLean composition. Adding these two tracks neither makes this the complete 1 September 1960 session, nor makes it include all of Tina Brooks own compositions recorded that day. why would you delete your thank you....? To prevent a double post. Edited August 3, 2014 by erwbol Quote
etherbored Posted August 3, 2014 Report Posted August 3, 2014 ah - you got me! i don't have the shm so can't speak to any comments from cuscuna. i have the blue note works issue of 'back' and three issues of 'bag'. and while researching the bonus tracks i did think the selection of these two curious, however, could it be that they've being saved to tack on a mclean reissue as a bonus....? Quote
sambrasa Posted August 5, 2014 Report Posted August 5, 2014 I don't know if it has been mentioned or not (don't have the energy to read messages past right now) but Cannonball Adderley's Something Else TYCJ-81002 from October 2013 has one bonus track other than the usual "Bangoon" : alternate version of "Autumn Leaves" (9:33). Peter Losin's sessionography mentions this version but does not list any releases. Quote
erwbol Posted August 5, 2014 Report Posted August 5, 2014 The first batch from October contained five titles with previously unreleased alternate takes: Blue Train, Somethin' Else, Moanin', Out To Lunch, and Speak No Evil. See e.g. page 1 (if you're up to it). Quote
sambrasa Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 Yay, that's great. Picked up the new Somethin' Else completely oblivious to the bonus track (felt the need to upgrade my older CD version) and it was a fine surprise. Now I need at least Blue Train and Speak No Evil as well. Quote
erwbol Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 For me the new Dolphy was most thrilling of all. If I could keep only one of these five discs... Quote
JohnS Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 Yay, that's great. Picked up the new Somethin' Else completely oblivious to the bonus track (felt the need to upgrade my older CD version) and it was a fine surprise. Now I need at least Blue Train and Speak No Evil as well. Me too, but finding it difficult to justify the purchase. Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 ZT Blues is good, you won't be disappointed with that session of Turrentine's. Better get that, too. I love that session. Only have it on a DMM LP. MG Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 For me the new Dolphy was most thrilling of all. If I could keep only one of these five discs... Me too. I'm not so focused on sound-quality issues, but this new issue was a big improvement. And the bonus material was an amazing surprise, and well worth the upgrade (for the new material alone). Quote
etherbored Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 For me the new Dolphy was most thrilling of all. If I could keep only one of these five discs... Me too. I'm not so focused on sound-quality issues, but this new issue was a big improvement. And the bonus material was an amazing surprise, and well worth the upgrade (for the new material alone). what were your prior pressings of it (i.e., what are you comparing it to)....? Quote
erwbol Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) I presume you asked Rooster Ties, but I own the McMaster, BN Works and formerly RVG. It's a considerable improvement. The HD Tracks 24bit FLACs are also very good, but lack the alternate takes. Clunky was also very positive about the SHM of Out To Lunch early on in this thread. Edited August 6, 2014 by erwbol Quote
etherbored Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 i was asking all to whom the question applies, really. i have the 24-bit toshiba from a couple years ago, but these shm's have something to them. what is it? an analog air about them? headroom? all or none of the above? whatever it is, when i put one on i hear it. surely it's not a placebo effect... Quote
Homefromtheforest Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 Yeah when I play a lot of these SHM CDs I don't feel as much desire to have them on vinyl...they sound very analog to me! Quote
jazzbo Posted August 6, 2014 Report Posted August 6, 2014 (edited) I think they are just mastered from really good transfers on really good equipment by a qualified engineer. I picked up the new Miles Davis two cd set on Universal and it shares this sort of sound, and perhaps the same transfer engineering and engineer (on the Davis that is credited to Bernie Grundman). Edited August 6, 2014 by jazzbo Quote
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