king ubu Posted April 1, 2015 Report Posted April 1, 2015 Flurin - I still see the (2007?) release on amazon uk for an affordable price. Maybe it's a ghost - ? Should read here more often, I guess ... UK has fairly pricey offers by now only, but there was one lone copy around on the continental sites, sold by amazon itself ... snatched it up at a more than acceptable price - not shipped yet, but I'm optimistic! Thanks for alerting me, David! Good luck! It is being processed, so I guess I'm safe! (Provided the post won't freak up ... glad I'm not in Germany, as far as that is concerned.) When I arrived home this morning after playing tennis I found a box had arrived from CD Japan. The following SHM-CDs were in the box. Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers At Cafe Bohemia, Vol.1 Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers - Mosaic Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers - Free For All Clifford Brown Memorial Album Freddie Hubbard - Here To Stay Horace Silver - Song For My Father Ike Quebec - Easy Living JJ Johnson - The Eminent, Vol.1 Jackie McLean Quintet Larry Young - Unity Milt Jackson Sonny Clark - Mt Conception Sonny Clark - Leapin' and Lopin' Thelonious Monk - Genius Of Modern Jazz, Vol.1 Thelonious Monk - Genius Of Modern Jazz, Vol.2 Tina Brooks - True Blue I'd appreciate any feedback re Cafe Bohemia disc and how it compares to the RVG. I'd a Kenny D nut. Still have the old McMasters of those ... anyone with any insight into specifics there? The Van Gelders look lovely and I often thought of finally getting them, but then there's still piles of stuff I don't have and want to explore, rather than re-buy things. But it's a slippery slope and I've bought a few of those SHM discs and they're a fine bunch for sure! (So far, I restricted myself to ones adding previously unreleased takes though, even if it's just a second alternate as on "Workout".) Quote
erwbol Posted April 1, 2015 Report Posted April 1, 2015 I have Cafe Bohemia Vol.1 and it is excellent, but do not own the RVG. I did own the RVG of Ornette's Golden Circle Vol. 1, and while that album was very good, the SHM is even better. There's just the question of Vol.2 ever being made available on SHM for both titles. Perhaps this April Fool's Day a new batch of SHMs will be announced, but within the time zone Japan is in it's probably 2 April by now. Quote
king ubu Posted April 1, 2015 Report Posted April 1, 2015 Well, someone will let us know about some Larry Young mosaic sets found in the warehouse for sure ... I don't know the RVGs, but only have the old "domestic" discs for the Blakey Bohemias ... Quote
CJ Shearn Posted April 1, 2015 Report Posted April 1, 2015 I think some of these masterings are showing up on HDTracks. I can't be certain but I have a hunch the Shorter's are the same masterings as the SHM's. The titles I already have on CD I don't want to upgrade again. I've spent like every one else, hundreds of dollars on BN's over the years, I don't wanna do that again. Like Lon, I enjoy the RVG series, it helped me get a lot of music that was hard to find previously and IMO only a handful really sucked and I since replaced them. Quote
jazzbo Posted April 3, 2015 Report Posted April 3, 2015 Have listened to these from the new batch so far: UCCQ 5098 Donald Byrd: A New Perspective UCCQ 5102 Herbie Hancock: Inventions & Dimensions +2 UCCQ 5108 Wayne Shorter: Night Dreamer +1 UCCQ 5111 Donald Byrd: I’m Tryin’ To Get Home UCCQ 5114 Bobby Hutcherson: Dialogue +1 UCCQ 5118 Andrew Hill: Compulsion UCCQ 5119 Don Cherry: Complete Communion I'm glad I got each one. Each sounds very very nice. Quote
Eric Posted April 3, 2015 Report Posted April 3, 2015 Have listened to these from the new batch so far: UCCQ 5111 Donald Byrd: I’m Tryin’ To Get Home I'm glad I got each one. Each sounds very very nice. Glad to hear it on this one - I may purchase. Kind of an old favorite. Quote
jazzbo Posted April 3, 2015 Report Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) I like this date a lot too. It screams "Church" to me, brings back sounds of the Philadelphia church I grew up in in the late 'fifties and first half of the 'sixties. It does not sound like most other Blue Notes, so I honestly think that the sound is meant to be different, to give this "I'm sitting in the congregation and this is playing out before me" feel to the sound. I have the TOCJ of this as well, and this SHM-CD offers a bit more clarity and a bit more dynamic contrast. It's never going to be an audiophile sounding session, but it is "transporting" for me. Interesting to note that Byrd and Pearson are listed as producers (each producing three tracks) in one entry of discogs.com. Alfred Lion of course is listed as producer elsewhere. Edited April 3, 2015 by jazzbo Quote
CJ Shearn Posted April 4, 2015 Report Posted April 4, 2015 I sampled a tune on YT because I will get it on HDTracks or the SHM, and it didn't sound like your average RVG recording. Lon, what did you think of "Dialogue"? my only reference is the RVG I have, and I like it Quote
jazzbo Posted April 4, 2015 Report Posted April 4, 2015 This new one is a very good transfer. I like the RVG as well, but this one is more dynamic, and "quicker" sounding. . . without being tinny or harsh. Quote
CJ Shearn Posted April 4, 2015 Report Posted April 4, 2015 Ahh, I see. Thank you What do you mean by "quicker"? I've heard that term often. Quote
jazzbo Posted April 4, 2015 Report Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) Just that it's not as thick and heavy sounding as the RVG, it seems to let the sound out quicker with no overhang. Just a way that I personally think about reproduced music. I really like the RVG series, I can turn my treble cut circuit down a little and most sound really good on my system. They have a beefiness to the sound that I prefer to the thin sound of McMasters of any vintage and a vividness and energy that I prefer to the Blue Note Works versions. These new 75th anniversary remasters lack the beefy meatiness of many RVGs, they seem lighter on their feet, quicker. (I guess that's a silly way to talk about music reproduction but I'm silly). They have a very good depth to the sound and there are little details better presented than the RVGs. I'd distill down to one copy of all these dates I now have in the 75th series. . . but I have every US RVG, many Japanese ones, and the entire US Prestige RVG series. Nice to keep whole series that you collected with interest, so I am keeping them. But realistically, I think each of these new remasters that I have are for me the definitive digital version now (I don't do downloads.) Even when a few don't sound that great (Demon's Dance or I'm Trying to Get Back Home for example, not audiophile pleasing recordings) they still sound improved over earlier versions, to me on my systems. Edited April 4, 2015 by jazzbo Quote
CJ Shearn Posted April 4, 2015 Report Posted April 4, 2015 Cool, thanks for the tip. You are right the RVG's generally have a beefy quality, I remember someone describing them as "electric". I don't have anywhere near what you do system wise (I mainly use headphones-which you don't Audio Technica's which are totally flat, an Onkyo amp, Technics speakers and all my CD's ripped losslessly on my laptop), thank you always for your astute listening and comparisons, it really helps Quote
erwbol Posted April 5, 2015 Report Posted April 5, 2015 Any news on new alternate takes/bonus tracks? So far we have: Lou Donaldson - Here 'Tis The Three Sounds - Hey There Joe Henderson - Mode For Joe Any other titles with unreleased tracks discovered now that the March 2015 batch has been released? Quote
king ubu Posted April 6, 2015 Report Posted April 6, 2015 Any news on new alternate takes/bonus tracks? So far we have: Lou Donaldson - Here 'Tis The Three Sounds - Hey There Joe Henderson - Mode For Joe Any other titles with unreleased tracks discovered now that the March 2015 batch has been released? Oh, I guess I'll need to buy "Here 'Tis" again then ... any new Baby Face is great news! Quote
bertrand Posted April 7, 2015 Report Posted April 7, 2015 What is the bonus track on the Donaldson? Quote
erwbol Posted April 7, 2015 Report Posted April 7, 2015 What is the bonus track on the Donaldson? Blues #4 Quote
monkboughtlunch Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) Anyone heard the Here Tis bonus track "Blues #4?" How many minutes is the track and is it worthwhile to pick up? I already have the session so am asking if it's worth repurchasing to get the outtake. Edited April 12, 2015 by monkboughtlunch Quote
JohnS Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 Ten minutes of medium tempo foot tapping blues. Long solos all round. Probably what you would expect from this lineup. Quote
EyeSpeech Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 I can only hope these SHM-CDs are released as SHM-SACDs. Quote
jazzbo Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 I don't believe that is likely to happen Greg. Quote
EyeSpeech Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 I recently picked up Bluesette and How My Heart Sings on SHM-SACD. Several other Savoys and Riversides are available. Would be nice to have Blue Notes. Quote
jazzbo Posted April 12, 2015 Report Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) Yes, I'm aware of what has been released, but I think we would have seen them by now from this series mastering if Universal were interested in doing so. We haven't seen them, I suspect we won't. It's fine with me if they issue them, I probably wont' buy them or many of them, but if others want them I'll hope they come out. But I don't expect them to. Edited April 12, 2015 by jazzbo Quote
monkboughtlunch Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 Has the next batch of Blue Note SHMCD been announced? Quote
jazzbo Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) I am not certain that there will be a next batch, somewhere I saw "final batch" mentioned for the March releases. . . so far I have not seen any announced. Edited April 13, 2015 by jazzbo Quote
erwbol Posted April 13, 2015 Report Posted April 13, 2015 I will be severely disappointed if Andrew Hill's first four albums don't see an SHM release. Quote
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