David Posted September 1, 2013 Report Posted September 1, 2013 Does anyone have any further information on these two upcoming Japanese releases? http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=WPCR-15177 http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=WPCR-15179 The page provides the following description: "Japanese original release of album from Weather Report features unreleased live tracks from 1978 to 1981. Produced and remastered by Peter Erskine. Comes with a description. This is the [first/second] volume." Each of the volumes are 2CDs and somewhat reasonably priced around $30 before shipping. I already have the Columbia Live and Unreleased 2CD set--which is incredible--so naturally my interest is piqued. That being said, I'd be interested if anyone had any further details on these releases. Quote
bertrand Posted September 1, 2013 Report Posted September 1, 2013 First I heard of this - I hope there's not too much overlap with the other live sets, if any. Recording dates would be nice; maybe they are listed somewhere else. Bertrand. Quote
JSngry Posted September 1, 2013 Report Posted September 1, 2013 It's on WEA instead of Columbia? Quote
David Posted September 2, 2013 Author Report Posted September 2, 2013 I know -- that's why I'm hopeful it will have different recordings. But I haven't been able to find much information on either of the releases. Quote
king ubu Posted September 3, 2013 Report Posted September 3, 2013 THE LEGENDARY UNRELEASED LIVE 1978-1981 VOL 1 2CDS JAP2013 release. Japan-only release features unreleased live tracks from 1978-1981. Produced and remastered by Peter Erksine. Volume 1 will feature 17 tracks including “8:30”, “Sightseeing”, “ Brown Street”, “The Orphan”, “ Forlorn” “Badia”, “Birdland”, “ A Remark You Made”, “Gibura”, “Mr. Gone in addition to a 2 Jaco bass solos, 2 Peter Erskine solos and a Zawinul/Shorter duet. Joe Z awinul, keyboards, Wayne Shorter, sax, Jaco Pastorius, bass & Peter Erskine, drums http://www.audiophileimports.com/shop/product.php?productid=22580&cat=280&page=1 HE LEGENDARY UNRELEASED LIVE 1978-1981 2 CDS (Available 8/28/13, place pre-orders now)2013 release. Japan-only release features unreleased tracks from 1978-1981. Produced and remastered by Peter Erskine. Volume 2 will feature 15 tracks including “Fast City”, “Madagascar”, “Night Passage”, Dream Clock”, “Port Of Entry”, “Rock'n In Rhythm”, Shorter solo, “Three Views Of A Secret”, 'Scarlet Woman”, “Black Market”, “A Remark You Made”, “Teen Town” + a Zawinul acoustic piano piece. Joe Zawinul, keyboards, Wayne Shorter, sax, Jaco Pastorius, bass & Peter Erskine, drums. http://www.audiophileimports.com/shop/product.php?productid=22581&cat=280&page=2 not sure if this helps ... Quote
Eric Posted January 27, 2015 Report Posted January 27, 2015 Listed as "release cancelled" at CD Japan ... Quote
bluesoul Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 https://www.sonymusic.com/news/NEW YORK, Oct. 13, 2015 /PRNewswire/ -- Legacy Recordings, the catalog division of Sony Music Entertainment, is proud to announce the upcoming release of Weather Report: The Legendary Live Tapes: 1978-1981, a monumental 4 disc boxed set of previously unreleased live concert performances from the groundbreaking electronic jazz-rock-funk ensemble whose revolutionary sounds continue to influence -generations of bands and music aficionados. Weather Report: The Legendary Live Tapes: 1978-1981 will be available on Friday, November 20, 2015. http://www.amazon.com/Legendary-Tapes-Live-Weather-Report/dp/B01543DFZO/ Quote
JSngry Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Good to see it back, preordered. Thanks for the heads-up!Amazon calls it "completely, totally, unapologetically and insanely live" which is no doubt code for overflowing with bad taste, but I'm ok with that. I saw the band a few times during those years, and not once was there more bad taste than there was brilliance, and at least once the brilliance came from Wayne being obviously pissed either at or about Jaco. Wayne didn't bring a knife to a gunfight, he brought a freakin' atomicbeamlaserbomb. Quote
jazzbo Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Sony Japan is releasing this set in a Blu-Spec 2 CD version for less than you can order the set on amazon. Quote
felser Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Yeah, this set isn't coming into my house anytime soon, given the $60 list price. I'm more wired to their early Miroslav Vitous era. Quote
HutchFan Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Yeah, this set isn't coming into my house anytime soon, given the $60 list price. I'm more wired to their early Miroslav Vitous era.I prefer the Vitous era band too. That's heresy, I know, to the many Jaco fans out there. But those later Weather Report recordings have just never grabbed me.To my ears, the 2-CD Live in Tokyo set from January 1972 is Weather Report at their peak. Quote
JSngry Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 I'm about he least Jaco fan you'll find. But Wayne & Joe were frequently spectacular during these days, which were ironically the peak of everybody bitching about why Wayne didn't play more. That was on the records. Live, the guy was on fire. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 I'd be into at least hearing a good example of the later band, though I prefer the earlier stuff. Quote
HutchFan Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) I'm about he least Jaco fan you'll find. But Wayne & Joe were frequently spectacular during these days, which were ironically the peak of everybody bitching about why Wayne didn't play more. That was on the records. Live, the guy was on fire.Different live. That makes sense. I'm definitely game if Wayne's on fire.The later studio albums? Meh.Just my take, of course. Edited October 15, 2015 by HutchFan Quote
jazzbo Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 I'm not a big fan of the recordings of this band any longer, but I saw the band live four times in this time period and as Jim says, it was a different story.Never got to see the band with Vitous and would love to have, would be eager to get more recordings from the early years. Quote
king ubu Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 btw, pre-order a amazon.de ist 30€:http://www.amazon.de/dp/B01543DFZO/guess at that price, this is what they call a no-brainer Quote
JSngry Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 The last time I saw them with Jaco was at whatever that summer music fest is outside of Detroit, 1981(?). Jaco started the show being obnoxiously loud and overplaying - and by getting all up in Wayne's stage space, very aggressively territorial., and Wayne just was not having it. Wayne always dug in live (at least every time I saw them), but this time, he was going to draw blood, and he did, musically, psychologically, and body language. He was aiming everything at Jaco and damn near literally shooting bullets with his horn and his body. Jaco pulled back into his space and stayed there the rest of the show. Wayne kept shooting him daggers every time he even began to edge over his way. Wayne might prefer to be all Zen-y peaceful and shit, but dig, the guy still came from Newark, still came up with Blakey & Miles, and I don't think that you would want to get into any kind of a showdown with Wayne Shorter, even today. Power in reserve, and do not presume to know how much of it there might be. Odds are, you guess wrong.My feelings about Jaco are not simple...amazing player and mind, but other than his work with Joni Mitchell, not particularly appealing to me musically. But there's no way to deny his genius, and there's no way to deny his catalytic effect on this version of Weather Report. It's one of those things that you can think what you like, feel what you feel, but it's gonna be what it is no matter what you think or feel about it. And now, it's history, so...yeah. If you want to look at it at all, you just gotta accept all of it as what happened and start from there. Like I said, bad taste aplenty, and even more brilliance, you don't get the one without the other, at least from this thing you don't. Quote
felser Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 The 1976-1982 box set has 12 bonus live cuts, the complete '8:30' including the restored "Scarlet Woman", all of the Jaco period studio albums, and costs less than half of what this set is listing for. So, unless you're really a fan of the Jaco period, that may do for you. It's good enough for me. I saw them live with Jaco in the mid-late 70's at Temple University's Ambler Campus, enjoyed the show (John Klemmer opened, and I liked him live, too), but don't remember a lot of the specifics. Quote
xybert Posted October 15, 2015 Report Posted October 15, 2015 Interesting insights about Wayne and Jaco.I've enjoyed both the pre-Jaco years and the Jaco years, but i feel like i had my WR 'phase' (honestly, no connotations intended, just can't think of a better way to put it right now) and i like revisiting that material occasionally and have very fond memories but i have no real desire to add new material or create new WR related memories. Jaco wise, outside of WR for me i just love the album with Metheny and Bob Moses. Quote
king ubu Posted October 16, 2015 Report Posted October 16, 2015 The 1976-1982 box set has 12 bonus live cuts, the complete '8:30' including the restored "Scarlet Woman", all of the Jaco period studio albums, and costs less than half of what this set is listing for. So, unless you're really a fan of the Jaco period, that may do for you. It's good enough for me. I saw them live with Jaco in the mid-late 70's at Temple University's Ambler Campus, enjoyed the show (John Klemmer opened, and I liked him live, too), but don't remember a lot of the specifics. Depends on how you define "really a fan of the Jaco period" ... Sangrey made those points already. Similar here: studio-wise, prefer the earlier albums, but live, the band keeps holding up interest. So this new set might in fact be of way more interest than the studio box (plus it's pretty cheap over here, the US pre-order price seems to be kind of a joke). Quote
Guy Berger Posted October 16, 2015 Report Posted October 16, 2015 I agree, the band continued to be of interest live even after the studio albums dropped off significantly in value, though there was also a decline in quality live after 1976 as the live shows became more scripted.(And I'd also add that every single WR report album I've heard has at least some stuff worth hearing.) Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted October 17, 2015 Report Posted October 17, 2015 never saw them but i saw Zawinul syndicate 2 times and it definitely 'went there'... Quote
bertrand Posted October 18, 2015 Report Posted October 18, 2015 Are we 100% sure every track is unissued? I find it hard to believe they ever played The Orphan live... Quote
ghost of miles Posted November 18, 2015 Report Posted November 18, 2015 Fans of the early-1970s edition of the group--have you checked out this 2-CD release yet? Agora Columbus 1972 Quote
JSngry Posted November 18, 2015 Report Posted November 18, 2015 If you're a fan, you'll enjoy it, perhaps even more if found elsewhere with no price attached. Quote
_forumlogo.png.a607ef20a6e0c299ab2aa6443aa1f32e.png)
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.