king ubu Posted February 9, 2004 Report Posted February 9, 2004 I see that Amazon UK has several Spotlite CD reissuing Dial sessions. I do own the Spotlite Complete Dial set by Bird, which is in very fine sound, and good documentation (I still had to get the Savoy 8CD set, as I only had the Savoy stuff on LP and never had the famous Gillespie sides etc). Then I also have a nice Dexter Gordon disc. Both of these are also still available from Amazon UK. Some questions regarding these: Red Norvo - On Dial What does this include? The Comet session with Bird also in the Savoy 8CD set? And what more? Dodo Marmarosa - Dial Masters Again, what does this include? I know some Marmarosa trio tracks (alternates, I guess) with Babasin, and they're fine. This is the one which interests me the most: Gillespie, Navarro, Berman - Complete Dial Sessions 1946-1948 What's the contents of this one? Erroll Garner - On Dial This has the Parker date with Garner, but I guess there must be some more on this CD? any help appreciated! ubu Quote
king ubu Posted February 10, 2004 Author Report Posted February 10, 2004 No one has any of these? Or should I post this in the discography section? ubu Quote
J.A.W. Posted February 10, 2004 Report Posted February 10, 2004 I'll post some details here later. Quote
king ubu Posted February 10, 2004 Author Report Posted February 10, 2004 I'll post some details here later. Thanks! No hurry! I was just wondering if my thread got lost. ubu Quote
mikeweil Posted February 10, 2004 Report Posted February 10, 2004 Red Norvo - On Dial What does this include? The Comet session with Bird also in the Savoy 8CD set? And what more? I have almost all of the Dial LPs - the Norvo LP has Hallelujah 3 takes get happy 2 takes Slam Slam Blues 2 takes Congo Blues 5 takes No idea wether the CD has more. Quote
mikeweil Posted February 10, 2004 Report Posted February 10, 2004 Dodo Marmarosa - Dial Masters Again, what does this include? I know some Marmarosa trio tracks (alternates, I guess) with Babasin, and they're fine. The Marmarosa LP has the complete session with Babasin on cello (!) and Jackie Mills on drums of December 3, 1947, 11 takes in all, two test takes of "Tone Painting" and two AFRS Jubilee performances. Quote
brownie Posted February 10, 2004 Report Posted February 10, 2004 I have these on Spotlite LPs and can't help much. For CD details, you can have a look at this site: http://music.onino.co.uk/music-shrink/6749.html They seem to list all Spotlite CD releases including the Dial ones you're looking for! Quote
mikeweil Posted February 10, 2004 Report Posted February 10, 2004 Erroll Garner - On Dial This has the Parker date with Garner, but I guess there must be some more on this CD? The Garner LP does NOT include the tracks with Parker but the trio tracks recorded at the same session (3 takes), and 10 piano solos recorded for Dial on June 10, 1947, all very nice. Quote
king ubu Posted February 10, 2004 Author Report Posted February 10, 2004 Erroll Garner - On Dial This has the Parker date with Garner, but I guess there must be some more on this CD? The Garner LP does NOT include the tracks with Parker but the trio tracks recorded at the same session (3 takes), and 10 piano solos recorded for Dial on June 10, 1947, all very nice. So the CD will include what you listed plus the Parker takes, most probably. Thanks! One to get! ubu Quote
mikeweil Posted February 10, 2004 Report Posted February 10, 2004 This is the one which interests me the most: Gillespie, Navarro, Berman - Complete Dial Sessions 1946-1948 What's the contents of this one? The Gillespie LP has the session of February 6, 1946 that Parker missed, with Lucky Thompson, Milt jackson, Ray Brown, Al Haig and Stan Levey (8 takes), and 8 takes from the Harmanites session of September 21, 1946 with Bill Harris, Serge Chaloff, Sonny Berman, and Ralph Burns. Quote
king ubu Posted February 10, 2004 Author Report Posted February 10, 2004 This is the one which interests me the most: Gillespie, Navarro, Berman - Complete Dial Sessions 1946-1948 What's the contents of this one? The Gillespie LP has the session of February 6, 1946 that Parker missed, with Lucky Thompson, Milt jackson, Ray Brown, Al Haig and Stan Levey (8 takes), and 8 takes from the Harmanites session of September 21, 1946 with Bill Harris, Serge Chaloff, Sonny Berman, and Ralph Burns. Another cool one, it seems! ubu Quote
king ubu Posted February 10, 2004 Author Report Posted February 10, 2004 Red Norvo - On Dial What does this include? The Comet session with Bird also in the Savoy 8CD set? And what more? I have almost all of the Dial LPs - the Norvo LP has Hallelujah 3 takes get happy 2 takes Slam Slam Blues 2 takes Congo Blues 5 takes No idea wether the CD has more. So this is all the material with Diz & Bird! There has to be something else on the CD, no? Otherwise I (and my bank account) could gladly NOT get this as well... ubu Quote
king ubu Posted February 10, 2004 Author Report Posted February 10, 2004 Dodo Marmarosa - Dial Masters Again, what does this include? I know some Marmarosa trio tracks (alternates, I guess) with Babasin, and they're fine. The Marmarosa LP has the complete session with Babasin on cello (!) and Jackie Mills on drums of December 3, 1947, 11 takes in all, two test takes of "Tone Painting" and two AFRS Jubilee performances. That session with the cello is pretty interesting! (And it might be one of the earliest using cello in place of bass, I suppose). Will have to get it... ubu Quote
king ubu Posted February 10, 2004 Author Report Posted February 10, 2004 And Edwards/McGhee always arouse my interest, so the additional material (not on your LP) might be worth getting it, too. Could this be the McGhee Dial date? I have that on one of those dreaded Definitive CDs I picked up for nothing some time ago, but don't have it at hand. I am not sure Marmarosa is on piano there, but could well be. ubu Quote
mikeweil Posted February 10, 2004 Report Posted February 10, 2004 Just had a look at the site Brownie linked: if their listings are correct, the Gillespie/Berman/Navarro incudes only the master takes of the former two and adds the five master takes from the Don Lanphere session with Fats Navarro. Great music, but far from a complete issue! Quote
J.A.W. Posted February 10, 2004 Report Posted February 10, 2004 (edited) Spotlite Records phone and fax numbers (UK) - they don't have a website. GILLESPIE / BERMAN / NAVARRO ON DIAL - Spotlite SPJ-(CD)-132 Dizzy Gillespie - trumpet Charlie Parker - alto saxophone Lucky Thompson - tenor saxophone George Handy - piano Arvin Garrison - guitar Ray Brown - bass Roy Porter - drums Diggin' Diz Dizzy Gillespie - trumpet Lucky Thompson - tenor saxophone Milt Jackson - vibraphone Al Haig - piano Ray Brown - bass Stan Levey - drums The Three Angels - vocal* Confirmation Diggin' for Diz Dynamo A Dynamo B *When I Grown Too Old to Dream 'Round About Midnight 'Round About Midnight Sonny Berman - trumpet Bill Harris - trombone (not on all tracks) Flip Phillips - tenor saxophone (not on all tracks) Serge Chaloff - baritone saxophone (not on all tracks) Ralph Burns - piano Chuck Wayne - guitar Artie Bernstein - bass Don Lamond - drums Curbstone Scuffle (with FP, SC) Curbstone Scuffle (with FP, SC) Nocturne (with FP, SC) Woodchopper's Holiday (with FP, SC) Woodchopper's Holiday (with FP, SC) Somebody Loves Me (quintet only) Somebody Loves Me (quintet only) Blue Serge (with BH, SC) Blue Serge (with BH, SC) Fats Navarro - trumpet Don Lanphere - tenor saxophone Linton Garner - piano, celeste Al Casey - guitar (out on *) Jimmy Johnson - bass Max Roach - drums Earl Coleman - vocal (out on *) Guilty Yardbird Suite A Stranger in Town As Time Goes By *Move *Move Recorded at: Electro Broadcast Studios, Glendale, CA on February 5 and 6, 1946 C.P. MacGregor Studios, Hollywood, CA on September 21, 1946 WOR Studios, New York City on November 29, 1948 DODO'S DANCE - DODO MARMAROSA ON DIAL - Spotlite SPJ-(CD)-128 Dodo Marmarosa - piano Deep Purple Tea for Two Miles Davis - trumpet Charlie Parker - alto saxophone Lucky Thompson - tenor saxophone Dodo Marmarosa - piano Arvin Garrison - guitar Vic MacMillan - bass Roy Porter - drums Bird Lore Howard McGhee - trumpet Teddy Edwards - tenor saxophone Dodo Marmarosa - piano Arvin Garrison - guitar Bob Kesterson - bass Roy Porter - drums Dialated Pupils Dialated Pupils Midnight at Minton's Up in Dodo's Room Up in Dodo's Room High Wind in Hollywood Dodo Marmarosa - piano Tone Paintings I Tone Paintings II Dodo Marmarosa - piano Harry Babasin - cello Jackie Mills - drums Bopmatism Bopmatism Dodo's Dance Dodo's Dance Trade Winds Trade Winds Dary Departs Dary Departs Dary Departs Cosmo Street Cosmo Street Recorded at: Unknown studios, Los Angeles, CA, early 1946 Radio Recorders Studio, Hollywood, CA on March 28, 1946 C.P. MacGregor Studios, Hollywood, CA on October 18, 1946 Unknown studios, probably Los Angeles, CA, early/mid 1947 C.P. MacGregor Studios, Hollywood, CA on October 18, 1946 All the usual disclaimers apply ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I don't have any details on the other albums. Edited February 10, 2004 by J.A.W. Quote
king ubu Posted February 10, 2004 Author Report Posted February 10, 2004 I have these on Spotlite LPs and can't help much. For CD details, you can have a look at this site: http://music.onino.co.uk/music-shrink/6749.html They seem to list all Spotlite CD releases including the Dial ones you're looking for! Thanks, brownie! Browsing around there now. They don't really list details ("soon", they say), and the prize comparison doesn't work either. But Amazon UK has them for 7 or 8 £ and that's alright anyway. This one looks rather interesting, too: Really interesting, I think! ubu Quote
king ubu Posted February 10, 2004 Author Report Posted February 10, 2004 Spotlite Records phone and fax numbers (UK) - they don't have a website. GILLESPIE / BERMAN / NAVARRO ON DIAL - Spotlite SPJ-(CD)-132 Dizzy Gillespie - trumpet Charlie Parker - alto saxophone Lucky Thompson - tenor saxophone George Handy - piano Arvin Garrison - guitar Ray Brown - bass Roy Porter - drums Diggin' Diz Dizzy Gillespie - trumpet Lucky Thompson - tenor saxophone Milt Jackson - vibraphone Al Haig - piano Ray Brown - bass Stan Levey - drums The Three Angels - vocal* Confirmation Diggin' for Diz Dynamo A Dynamo B *When I Grown Too Old to Dream 'Round About Midnight 'Round About Midnight Sonny Berman - trumpet Bill Harris - trombone (not on all tracks) Flip Phillips - tenor saxophone (not on all tracks) Serge Chaloff - baritone saxophone (not on all tracks) Ralph Burns - piano Chuck Wayne - guitar Artie Bernstein - bass Don Lamond - drums Curbstone Scuffle (with FP, SC) Curbstone Scuffle (with FP, SC) Nocturne (with FP, SC) Woodchopper's Holiday (with FP, SC) Woodchopper's Holiday (with FP, SC) Somebody Loves Me (quintet only) Somebody Loves Me (quintet only) Blue Serge (with BH, SC) Blue Serge (with BH, SC) Fats Navarro - trumpet Don Lanphere - tenor saxophone Linton Garner - piano, celeste Al Casey - guitar (out on *) Jimmy Johnson - bass Max Roach - drums Earl Coleman - vocal (out on *) Guilty Yardbird Suite A Stranger in Town As Time Goes By *Move *Move Recorded at: Electro Broadcast Studios, Glendale, CA on February 5 and 6, 1946 C.P. MacGregor Studios, Hollywood, CA on September 21, 1946 WOR Studios, New York City on November 29, 1948 DODO'S DANCE - DODO MARMAROSA ON DIAL - Spotlite SPJ-(CD)-128 Dodo Marmarosa - piano Deep Purple Tea for Two Miles Davis - trumpet Charlie Parker - alto saxophone Lucky Thompson - tenor saxophone Dodo Marmarosa - piano Arvin Garrison - guitar Vic MacMillan - bass Roy Porter - drums Bird Lore Howard McGhee - trumpet Teddy Edwards - tenor saxophone Dodo Marmarosa - piano Arvin Garrison - guitar Bob Kesterson - bass Roy Porter - drums Dialated Pupils Dialated Pupils Midnight at Minton's Up in Dodo's Room Up in Dodo's Room High Wind in Hollywood Dodo Marmarosa - piano Tone Paintings I Tone Paintings II Dodo Marmarosa - piano Harry Babasin - cello Jackie Mills - drums Bopmatism Bopmatism Dodo's Dance Dodo's Dance Trade Winds Trade Winds Dary Departs Dary Departs Dary Departs Cosmo Street Cosmo Street Recorded at: Unknown studios, Los Angeles, CA, early 1946 Radio Recorders Studio, Hollywood, CA on March 28, 1946 C.P. MacGregor Studios, Hollywood, CA on October 18, 1946 Unknown studios, probably Los Angeles, CA, early/mid 1947 C.P. MacGregor Studios, Hollywood, CA on October 18, 1946 All the usual disclaimers apply ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I don't have any details on the other albums. Thanks a lot, Hans! The McGhee/Edwards on the Marmarosa disc is indeed the date I know. Great stuff! ubu Quote
mikeweil Posted February 10, 2004 Report Posted February 10, 2004 (edited) If J.A.W. has correct listings that site Brownie linked omitts the alternate takes in the listings. I just wanted to start bragging about these incomplete CDs, but it looks like they added related sessions. These three pieces, e.g. are not on the Marmarosa LP: 2. Bird lore 3. Midnight at Mintons 4. High wind in Hollywood The Gillespie includes a second take of 'Round Midnight not on the LP! Oh Geez - more for the ever growing want list Edited February 10, 2004 by mikeweil Quote
king ubu Posted February 10, 2004 Author Report Posted February 10, 2004 If J.A.W. has correct listings that site omitts the alternate takes in the listings. I just wanted to start bragging about these incomplete CDs, but it looks like they added related sessions. These three pieces, e.g. are not on the Marmarosa LP: 2. Bird lore 3. Midnight at Mintons 4. High wind in Hollywood Mike, these CDs in their oveview in the booklets only list each tune once, no matter if there are two, three or four tracks - it's rather an overview of compositions, than of contents of the disc. All information can be found in a small (smaller than CD-size) booklet included inside the (CD-sized) booklet. They're done quite lovingly, judging from the ones I saw or have. This all might be the reason for the incomplete listings on that site brownie linked. ubu Quote
J.A.W. Posted February 10, 2004 Report Posted February 10, 2004 If J.A.W. has correct listings that site omitts the alternate takes in the listings. I just wanted to start bragging about these incomplete CDs, but it looks like they added related sessions. These three pieces, e.g. are not on the Marmarosa LP: 2. Bird lore 3. Midnight at Mintons 4. High wind in Hollywood I have the two CDs I listed, and took the info from the booklets. Quote
king ubu Posted February 10, 2004 Author Report Posted February 10, 2004 (edited) As I see others are reading here, too, let me put in a very very good word for this one: Some of the best early Dexter to be heard! "The Chase", his duel with Wardell Gray is included. ubu Edited February 10, 2004 by king ubu Quote
king ubu Posted February 10, 2004 Author Report Posted February 10, 2004 If J.A.W. has correct listings that site omitts the alternate takes in the listings. I just wanted to start bragging about these incomplete CDs, but it looks like they added related sessions. These three pieces, e.g. are not on the Marmarosa LP: 2. Bird lore 3. Midnight at Mintons 4. High wind in Hollywood I have the two CDs I listed, and took the info from the booklets. Thanks a lot for taking the pains to type it out for me, Hans! ubu Quote
J.A.W. Posted February 10, 2004 Report Posted February 10, 2004 Thanks a lot for taking the pains to type it out for me, Hans! ubu You're welcome. Quote
mikeweil Posted February 10, 2004 Report Posted February 10, 2004 Now if there's one to get from that series, it is this: This is the ONLY recording of the Eckstine band giving an idea of the sound and the impact that band really had, believe me, indispensable stuff if you don't have it! Much better than the studio recordings! Quote
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