Royal Oak Posted August 22, 2013 Report Posted August 22, 2013 I wouldn't put it quite so strongly but you are right. As Time Goes By is a rather clumsy piece. But it suits the overrated bore-fest Casablanca perfectly! We've had a thread like this before, though. I remember posting my four bete noirs: Summertime Darn That Dream Old Folks Willow Weep For Me I still haven't heard a reason why jazz musicians persist in playing these depressing tunes. I like Darn That Dream and Old Folks! Dexter Gordon's "Willow" on the "Our Man In Paris" still does it for me too. Quote
John Tapscott Posted August 22, 2013 Report Posted August 22, 2013 Misty - just about all versions - just don't like it, that's all. Quote
xybert Posted August 22, 2013 Report Posted August 22, 2013 I've always disliked 'The Sidewinder', never been able to get past it and get in to what is by many accounts a classic album. Also used to hate all the Sidewinder-esque tracks i encountered on other Blue Note albums of the time... have somewhat gotten over that but i still cringe right from the opening notes of The Sidewinder. Quote
paul secor Posted August 22, 2013 Report Posted August 22, 2013 "As Time Goes By" is simply awful. Forget about "Casablanca" and just listen to this turkey: Clumsy and corny lyrics, trite and repetitive melodic phrases, chord progressions that occasionally sound like they're going someplace interesting but then suddenly stall. How famous was this song prior to the film? Did the film revive it? I'll bet the farm that, were it not for "Casablanca," this song would have sunk into obscurity. And good riddance. Billie singing it sounds just fine to me. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted August 23, 2013 Report Posted August 23, 2013 Misty - just about all versions - just don't like it, that's all. "Look at me, ....." Quote
BeBop Posted August 23, 2013 Report Posted August 23, 2013 Misty - just about all versions - just don't like it, that's all. "Look at me, ....." You sure you wouldn't re-think if Chuck was singing it? Quote
JSngry Posted August 23, 2013 Report Posted August 23, 2013 If one does not like "Misty", can one substitute "I Want To Talk About You", like hey sorry, I don't want the potatoes, can I get steamed vegetables instead? Or "Ebb Tide", like, ok, just half a side salad, no dressing, thanks! Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted August 23, 2013 Report Posted August 23, 2013 Billie singing it sounds just fine to me. You can have it. Quote
paul secor Posted August 23, 2013 Report Posted August 23, 2013 Billie singing it sounds just fine to me. You can have it. Thanks. I'll gladly take it. Quote
David Ayers Posted August 23, 2013 Report Posted August 23, 2013 Behind a paywall so not sure if you can see it - I love this song so molto molto off topic - and only ten seconds here (can't find the whole thing)... Russian Red Army choir doing Skyfall! http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article3850987.ece Quote
Clunky Posted August 23, 2013 Report Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) I can't stand the Rezillos Edited August 23, 2013 by Clunky Quote
mjazzg Posted August 23, 2013 Report Posted August 23, 2013 I can't stand the Rezillos careful, you may get your head kicked in tonight..... wins the "most unexpected reference of today" award for me. Quote
crisp Posted August 23, 2013 Report Posted August 23, 2013 Blues in the Night Wow. One of Harold Arlen and Johnny Mercer's very best, which is saying something. Quote
Clunky Posted August 23, 2013 Report Posted August 23, 2013 I can't stand the Rezillos careful, you may get your head kicked in tonight..... wins the "most unexpected reference of today" award for me. Thanks I can't stand up for falling down Quote
Royal Oak Posted August 23, 2013 Report Posted August 23, 2013 Mack The Knife - can't stand it. Stupid words, corny tune, short phrases which seem to make it a magnet for shitty singers. Quote
Larry Kart Posted August 23, 2013 Report Posted August 23, 2013 Mack The Knife - can't stand it. Stupid words, corny tune, short phrases which seem to make it a magnet for shitty singers. The original singer of the song, Kurt Gerron, may or may not change your mind: (spoken intro comes first) Original words (in a partial, literal translation) aren't stupid: And the shark, he has teeth And he wears them in his face And MacHeath, he has a knife But the knife you don't see On a beautiful blue Sunday Lies a dead man on the Strand* And a man goes around the corner Whom they call Mack the Knife And Schmul Meier is missing And many a rich man And his money has Mack the Knife, On whom they can't pin anything. Jenny Towler was found With a knife in her chest And on the wharf walks Mack the Knife, Who knows nothing about all this. And the minor-aged widow, Whose name everyone knows, Woke up and was violated Mack, what was your price? And some are in the darkness And the others in the light But you only see those in the light Those in the darkness you don't see Quote
paul secor Posted August 23, 2013 Report Posted August 23, 2013 There are several songs that have been mentioned that I like a lot when they're performed by the right people. Quote
GA Russell Posted August 23, 2013 Report Posted August 23, 2013 As I recall, Ernie Kovacs used to play the Kurt Gerron version on his show. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted August 23, 2013 Report Posted August 23, 2013 A House is Not a Home ?!?!? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F4wutgqYLQ Quote
Larry Kart Posted August 23, 2013 Report Posted August 23, 2013 Or this one: As I recall, Ernie Kovacs used to play the Kurt Gerron version on his show. Yes, with Kovacs-style spacey slapstick gags interspersed. It's on YouTube. Quote
JSngry Posted August 23, 2013 Report Posted August 23, 2013 I'll say - never underestimate Weil/Brecht or Bacharach/David. Quote
king ubu Posted August 24, 2013 Report Posted August 24, 2013 This thread is kinda depressting ... though I do agree on the stiffness of "As Time Goes By" (that stiffness btw. is shared with the female lead in the film, that hip-stiff clean-cut boring auntie) ... just compare Lauren and Hoagy doing "Am I Blue" if you want proof. Ever been bit by a dead bee? Quote
David Ayers Posted August 26, 2013 Report Posted August 26, 2013 Behind a paywall so not sure if you can see it - I love this song so molto molto off topic - and only ten seconds here (can't find the whole thing)... Russian Red Army choir doing Skyfall! http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/europe/article3850987.ece OK I of all people should know it is not the RED Army any more which is why I didn't find it on youtube - I posted a link to the whole thing in the What Are you Listening To thread Quote
John L Posted August 26, 2013 Report Posted August 26, 2013 (edited) Blues in the Night Wow. One of Harold Arlen and Johnny Mercer's very best, which is saying something. Certainly, a well-crafted and catchy tune, but it also has a very corny feel to it that I can't get passed. A House is Not a Home ?!?!? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_F4wutgqYLQ There have been some great performances of this tune, but I still don't like the song itself. In particular, the lyrics bug me. "A house is not a home" is an OK hook, but "a chair is still a chair even when there is no one sitting there, but a chair is not a house and a house is not a home...." gets to be a bit too much for me. Edited August 26, 2013 by John L Quote
crisp Posted August 26, 2013 Report Posted August 26, 2013 I agree. Somehow I just can't identify with a singer getting emotionally overwrought over the revelation that a chair is not a house. Although it's a sloppier lyric, Elvis Costello's variation on the "empty house/home" theme with Bacharach is much more effective: Quote
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