Boyd Raeburn solo ID question

[Larry Kart]

Listening to a recently acquired album of 1945 Boyd Raeburn airchecks, "Rhythms By Raeburn," on the aptly named Aircheck label -- these taken from broadcasts from the Rose Room of San Francisco's Palace Hotel in June, July, and August 1945, I was struck by a number of things, including the sheer madness of the setting that arranger George Handy provided for vocalist David Allyn on "Out of This World." But I was really surprised by the trombone solo on "How Deep Is the Ocean?" from Aug. 7, 1945. At once very smooth-toned and lyrical and quite modern in its harmonic flow, but without any boppish rhythmic touches, it didn't sound like the work of any trombonist of the era I've heard, with the possible exception of Jimmy Knepper, who was not with the Raeburn band, and besides it doesn't really sound like Knepper -- maybe like an improbable cross between Jack Jenney and Lester Young. No personnel is given, but poking through the fluctuating personnel given elsewhere for the Raeburn band of that vintage, my best guess is either Jack Carmen or Ollie Wilson. Johnny Mandel was also in the section around that time, and the melodic and harmonic traits I heard could be Mandel-ian, but I don't recall anyone saying that Mandel was more than a marginal player technically, and this is superb playing in terms of both concept and execution. Any ideas who it might be?

[alocispepraluger102]

wilson is inferred here. that is gorgeous, as you say, out of place in the madness.

http://www.allmusic.com/album/jubilee-broadcasts-1946-mw0000172904

[Larry Kart]

wilson is inferred here. that is gorgeous, as you say, out of place in the madness.

http://www.allmusic.com/album/jubilee-broadcasts-1946-mw0000172904

That's the same chart, and a damn good one it is, but not the same performance. The one I have is one of the three Raeburn versions of "How Deep Is the Ocean?" that can be found on Spotify. It's the one from "Rhythms By Raeburn" that lasts 4:14, which leaves room for three soloists -- a warm-toned trumpeter (probably Ray Linn) who states and handsomely embellishes the theme, the trombonist, and a tenor saxophonist (perhaps Emmet Carls).

[alocispepraluger102]

wilson is inferred here. that is gorgeous, as you say, out of place in the madness.

http://www.allmusic.com/album/jubilee-broadcasts-1946-mw0000172904

That's the same chart, and a damn good one it is, but not the same performance. The one I have is one of the three Raeburn versions of "How Deep Is the Ocean?" that can be found on Spotify. It's the one from "Rhythms By Raeburn" that lasts 4:14, which leaves room for three soloists -- a warm-toned trumpeter (probably Ray Linn) who states and handsomely embellishes the theme, the trombonist, and a tenor saxophonist (perhaps Emmet Carls).

i own the vinyl and have the spotify version. i will compare them.

[Big Beat Steve]

Bruyninckx' discography lists the following two trombonists for the June 19, 1945 recordings issued on Aircheck 20:

Rodney Roberts, Jack Carmen.

Later recording dates (including the August date you are referring to) on the same Aircheck LP are listed as having "similar personnel", but no mention of Ollie Wilson in the section dealing with THIS particular LP.