Hendrix/Miles/Williams 'Supergroup' Wanted Macca On Board

[sidewinder]

Apparently...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/the-beatles/10048426/Jimi-Hendrix-Miles-Davis-and-Paul-McCartney-supergroup-was-mooted.html#disqus_thread

[king ubu]

Hard to believe ... the Macca superflop band ... or did he just make that up? The others are all dead and can't tell him off ...

[Jazzmoose]

Doesn't sound like he had anything to do with it.

[JSngry]

Discussion in progress here, if you'd prefer:

[danasgoodstuff]

Makes perfect sense iff (mathematical, if but only if) you remember that Williams was a huge Beatles fan - see/hear his versions of "Fool on the Hill" and Blackbird"...coulda been great, as long as Tony refrained from singing!

[JSngry]

Also makes sense if you hear the raw session tapes from the earlier Beatles albums. McCarthy & Ringo were locked in, and were the only ones who were really playing with purpose and intensity, and in McCartney's case, chops.

But that was then, and that was definitely not 1969.

[danasgoodstuff]

and maybe they were hoping he'd bring some new tunes?

[Joe]

Paul was (not sure about is) a great bass player, and a historically important one at that. He had bigger ears than he's often given credit for ("Carnival of Light"). But I can't quite imagine him jamming with this trio...

Edited May 11, 2013 by Joe

[king ubu]

okay, I admit I may be prejudiced, but still ...

[Chuck Nessa]

I don't care. Put me "over there".

[JSngry]

Not Paul McCartney:

That bass line takes in a much wider scenario than it would need to if all it wanted to do was to be a simple rock and roll song in 1963. and this guy in 2012 is having to scuffle to make it.

No that this guy should be anybody's baseline (pun inevitable but unintentional), just sayin'...it's easy to take Paul McCartney's bass playing for granted in a world that now takes Beatlesmusic for granted.

[king ubu]

Well, it that helps my karma: I'm not taking Charlie for granted, ever!

[JSngry]

Don't take anything for granted! Seriously!

[king ubu]

Don't take anything for granted! Seriously!

I sure try not to, but Sir Paul is a rather difficult case ... time to dig out the Beatles mono box, I guess

[JSngry]

Sir Paul can go fuck himself.

But the guy you hear playing bass on the Purple Chick Beatles stuff through, like, 1966-ish, that guy is OK by me. And so's the drummer he's doing it with, for that matter.

[mjzee]

Ringo was a very idiosyncratic drummer, interesting to listen to.

[JSngry]

Ringo had a pocket!

Another one of Paul's early bass lines. Not "complicated" harmonically, just apreggiated rock and roll, but it is does set up a dynamic to where you either keep it up RIGHT THERE or else you get the hell out and start cutting corners. This guy's time is just a tad draggy, but he gets the point:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzSDAy5D59Y

This young lady, otoh, is trying, but for whatever reasons, she can't hang all the way and has to cut corners:

Point being just that Paul could hang, didn't have to cut corners, and did it in real time back in the day. The Purple Chick stuff was a minor revelation for me as to what extent this was true.

Of course, this was all relative to Beatleworld, but still...we're talking about why Tony Williams & Jimi Hendrix would want to jam with Paul McCartney. Precisely because there was Beatleworld, that's why, and yeah, Paul McCartney (and Ringo) brung it the way it needed to be brung in order for that to have been so.

Not Just Teen Appeal.

Although damned if I see Miles going there.

[Tim McG]

Pure Hendrix Blues:

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[Tim McG]

Red House:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5q1wt_jimi-hendrix-red-house_music?start=6#.UY7wIaJth2E

[Chuck Nessa]

There certainly would have been conflicts of time.

[Tim McG]

No doubt.

But the Blues is the Blues irrespective of the artist or time period.

Miles

[JSngry]

Anybody heard the Barbarians tape?

http://trapdted.blogspot.com/2011/08/new-wave-tony.html

If Tony would not have been such a prodigy...talk about conflicts of time...

[Quincy]

This story (including the mention of the telegram) was in Charles Cross's book on Hendrix titled Room Full Of Mirrors. So it's neat that telegram popped up. Paul was very enthusiastic about Jimi's music, going to the early shows and later ones too. He was the one who recommended The Experience to the Monterey Pop Festival. In retrospect you think "Well duh...who wouldn't want Hendrix" but it wasn't that easy and sometimes due to equipment failures, drugs or booze their shows bombed (in a bad way). There's also a story of Jimi's band being invited to a party at Brian Epstein's house and when Hendrix rings the bell Paul answer with a joint and a smile and passes it on to Jimi on the way in. So I would think Paul being so positive about Jimi's music certainly helped in Jimi thinking of him first. It's easy think of Paul as "the cute one" who got horribly schmaltzy fast, but he from the sound of it he had an active interest & curious mind in what was going on around him.

[robertoart]

Pure Hendrix Blues:

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God I love that acoustic Hendrix. I remember as a kid seeing that for the first time late at night on network TV, when they played the Hendrix doco.

What a great doco for a young music lover to see.

Littlle Richard in all his camp glory telling the world...'I knew he was gonna be a star"

The Ghetto twins...talking about Hendrix 'taking the alpha pocket outta here' ...or something like that

All the VERY seedy ex-girlfriends....

...'didn't you think I could do that'

Authenticity personified.