MartyJazz Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 There are a couple of factors that made losers of the Sox regardless of the correct obstruction call. First, Farrell showed that he's not capable of managing a game with NL rules when he allowed Workman to hit with Napoli still on the bench. How do you allow one of your less than premier relievers to come to the plate in the top of the 9th inning in a tie game? Hell, Farrell wound up relieving him after only two batters in the bottom of the 9th. Second, what made Saltalamacchia throw the ball to 3rd after he recorded the second out of the inning at the plate? He had no chance to get Craig who was practically standing on 3rd and his wild throw forced Middlebrooks to flop in a losing effort to catch the ball thus setting up the interference call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Train Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) Before you even get to that. He took out Drew to bring in Middlebrooks. Then he kept him in the game @ 3rd. Bogarts went to SS. You don't think Drew still @ SS he makes a throw Ortiz didn't have to really work for and Carpenter isn't out? Holliday's hit....does it make it past Bogarts @ his natural position....or as easily as it did with Middlebrooks? That hit alone is 2 runs. My take on Saltalamacchia is he forgot it was MIddlebrooks and not Bogarts. P.S. Leaves out no IBB for John Jay. Edited October 27, 2013 by Blue Train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal Pomea Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 "...and as pal Tim Clodjeaux correctly observed earlier on another thread, in all the chaos, Buck and McCarver did a great job of immediately picking up on what happened and explaining it. Not a false word -- no mistaken call, no confusion, no outrage. Imagine, if you can stand the pain, Chip Caray or Dick Stockton on that play." This is true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Train Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 "...and as pal Tim Clodjeaux correctly observed earlier on another thread, in all the chaos, Buck and McCarver did a great job of immediately picking up on what happened and explaining it. Not a false word -- no mistaken call, no confusion, no outrage. Imagine, if you can stand the pain, Chip Caray or Dick Stockton on that play." This is true! Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Train Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) Nationals hired Matt Williams to be manager. His only experience is in the AZ Fall League. Seems like they're flushing they're young talent the next few years for him to learn on the job. He's also the first admitted PED user to become a manager. Consolidates the position of GM Rizzo. Williams was the Diamondbacks' third base coach for the last few years. Metheny didn't have managerial experience either but look where he is! This move does not look like flushing the young talent to me. Missed this. I don't think you can compare them. Metheny became manager of one of the most consistently best run teams in modern sports....with veterans (many of whom had already been to several playoffs over the 4-6 years) that were coached by Tony La Russa. The Nationals forced out Johnson who went from Manager of the Year to here is the door.... for Williams. I could be wrong....after all it's all subjective...but also keep in mind just how very few first time managers (pretty, sure you can count them all on one hand, or maybe an extra finger or two now with Metheny) ever took a team to the playoffs. Edited October 28, 2013 by Blue Train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 The first who comes to mind is Ralph Houk, who won the World Series with the '61 Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Train Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) The first who comes to mind is Ralph Houk, who won the World Series with the '61 Yankees. Add in Sparky, Weaver, Lasorda, Tom Kelly, Gito Gaston, Ron Washington, Metheny and that's pretty much it. 8 out of just how many mangers in baseball history? P.S. I checked, even Connie Mack started with the Pirates before taking over the Phillies. I will admit that I thought he was a given before I checked. Edited October 28, 2013 by Blue Train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 P.S. I checked, even Connie Mack started with the Pirates before taking over the Phillies. I will admit that I thought he was a given before I checked. You mean the A 's, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Train Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) P.S. I checked, even Connie Mack started with the Pirates before taking over the Phillies. I will admit that I thought he was a given before I checked. You mean the A 's, right? I meant the Philadelphia Athletics so it's a split even. @ least that is my story. Edited October 28, 2013 by Blue Train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Here's the obstruction call from last night. It appears to me that the third baseman tripped over the baserunner, who then tripped over the third baseman. The third baseman was entirely in the field of play, and in the infield. Because his leg was between the base and home plate, I guess you could say that he was in the basepath, but I don't normally think of the infield as part of the basepath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Train Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) Middlebrooks didn't trip over Craig. They didn't even touch until Middlebrooks kicked up his legs the second time and tripped Craighttp://youtu.be/dpT7-9evb1Y?t=2m Edited October 28, 2013 by Blue Train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Train Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) Just what it is about the Evil Empire goes out of their way to be as Caucasian as possible with the crazy Caucasian Civil War-like beards? I realize it's Boston and they have issues in the city....but still. Edited October 28, 2013 by Blue Train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Train Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Two straight games with a crazy ending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Did I just hear Johnny Gomes refer to the Red Sox as the only American team left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Train Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) Did I just hear Johnny Gomes refer to the Red Sox as the only American team left? Turned it off after the game ended. Maybe he meant only AL team...which makes even less sense to say in a WS between the only NL and AL team. If he did....you can be sure it will be over the place. Edited October 28, 2013 by Blue Train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 What, Ham Fighters no longer in series? When did this happen? Gomes misinformed, surely, blame Fox, must willdew, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Red Sox 4....Cardinals 2 http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=331027124 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocispepraluger102 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 erin andrews' tugging gomes beard and using 2 nicknames for him in postgame interview. somehow 'journalism' here was picked off 1st base. ------------------------- MLB VP Joe Torre was spotted in St. Louis Sunday attending noon Mass at the Old Cathedral. Torre had played for the Cardinals in the 1970s & managed the team in the 1990s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulstation1 Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 St Louis in 6 games This should be changed to the World Series Of Beards..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McG Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) Looks like a certain former closer for the Giants has started a MLB wide trend:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Brian_Wilson_Fear_the_Beard.jpg Edited October 28, 2013 by GoodSpeak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Brisbee, again, with supporting videos: World Series 2013: 10 more ridiculous ways to end a game http://www.baseballnation.com/2013/10/28/5037424/world-series-2013-obstruction-ending-pickoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Train Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 (edited) Brisbee, again, with supporting videos: World Series 2013: 10 more ridiculous ways to end a game http://www.baseballnation.com/2013/10/28/5037424/world-series-2013-obstruction-ending-pickoff I never heard of the Vinnie Catricala Rule. Remember watching the Jean Segura one and going WTF? is that, and HTF? was it legal? Looks like a certain former closer for the Giants has started a MLB wide trend:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Brian_Wilson_Fear_the_Beard.jpg Unfortunately. St Louis in 6 games This should be changed to the World Series Of Beards..... aka the Jeb Stuart World Series Edited October 28, 2013 by Blue Train Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Red Sox 3....Cardinals 1 http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/10/29/boston-red-sox-beat-st-louis-cardinals-3-1-in-game-5/ http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/red-sox/post/_/id/33081/rapid-reaction-red-sox-3-cardinals-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Just going to pop into this thread to say I like our chances and I'll have a bottle of champagne chilling tonight in anticipation of World Championship #3 in the last 9 years. Not bad after 86 barren years prior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyJazz Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Here's one solid Yankee fan of nearly 60 years who admits that I find myself, inexplicably perhaps, rooting for the Red Sox. I hate those wild unruly beards and thought it would be easy to root for a Cardinal victory. Yet, I can't help but get a real kick out of the unbelievably clutch performance of Big Papi who obviously has a lot of fun playing this game. He not only spurs on his teammates with his actions and words, but he obviously enjoys talking and laughing it up with the Cardinal ballplayers who infrequently show up at 1st base. Of course, Lester too has been phenomenal as well as the terrific one-two punch of Japanese relievers Boston has. Bobby Valentine must be dying somewhere. I guess my American League loyalty holds true no matter what, even in these days of frequent player moves between leagues. Finally, AL East rooters believe it's the strongest division in the majors and so far, we are being proved right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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