brownie Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 From The New York Times today http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/01/09/a-historic-jazz-label-gets-a-new-life/ Quote
colinmce Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 New major mainstream jazz label signs major mainstream artists who already record for major mainstream jazz labels. Quote
Brad Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 New major mainstream jazz label signs major mainstream artists who already record for major mainstream jazz labels. Worse than mainstream Quote
CJ Shearn Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 Bill Frissell seems to have a comfortable deal with Savoy. He left Nonesuch because he wanted to release so many projects a year and they couldn't handle it. Maybe Bob James on OKeh is for straight ahead projects? That's a strange one. Quote
crisp Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 I find it so strange that smooth jazz is so called. From my experience people who like jazz don't like it and people who do like it don't like jazz. It's like calling Ray Conniff and the Singers "smooth big band". It's "instrumental soul" to me. Quote
CJ Shearn Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 I agree, but then there are people like my father and uncle who like straight ahead, fusion but also smooth. Generally it's separate audiences, and, albums in the past that were intended to cross over into smooth jazz like "Simply Said" and "Happy People" by Kenny Garrett haven't generally. Quote
JSngry Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 It's "instrumental soul" to me. What do you have against soul? Seriously, I can't even look at it like that. It's Pop Music far more often than it is anything else afaic. When it's anything past that, it's because somebody wanted it to be, not because it was going to be anyway. Quote
johnlitweiler Posted January 10, 2013 Report Posted January 10, 2013 I'm glad OKeh is back. It's been far too long since we got new Bessie Smith recordings. Quote
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted January 12, 2013 Report Posted January 12, 2013 i heard about this happening a while ago, cant recall source. thats cool theyre using the name by asso. the label w/ a catalogue of decent artists in improvised music, as listed, frissel, bob james, medeski, they so totally could of revived the name for not as good modern r&b boy bands, or whatever. so its a plus the roster is artists we know. the article didnt even mention the 60s revival, did it. so much great soul music and r&b on 60s OKeh Quote
Brad Posted January 12, 2013 Report Posted January 12, 2013 I'm glad OKeh is back. It's been far too long since we got new Bessie Smith recordings. According to the story the back catalog will still be handled by the Sony Legacy division. Quote
Head Man Posted January 12, 2013 Report Posted January 12, 2013 According to the story the back catalog will still be handled by the Sony Legacy division. Well.....I reckon having King Oliver and Bob James on the same label was too much even for Sony! Quote
Brad Posted January 12, 2013 Report Posted January 12, 2013 According to the story the back catalog will still be handled by the Sony Legacy division. Well.....I reckon having King Oliver and Bob James on the same label was too much even for Sony! Too much for me! Quote
crisp Posted January 17, 2013 Report Posted January 17, 2013 It's "instrumental soul" to me. What do you have against soul? I generally don't *get* soul music, but I have some respect for the original Motown type of stuff. Here though I'm thinking of the smarmy Alexander O'Neil/Luther Vandross type. Smooth jazz always sounds like it's wearing a purple silk shirt, tight leather trousers and a medallion round it's neck. Quote
JSngry Posted January 17, 2013 Report Posted January 17, 2013 Luther Vandross was a great talent, far more substance and skill there than in any "smooth jazz". Quote
crisp Posted January 17, 2013 Report Posted January 17, 2013 Fair enough. You are probably right. But since I don't even appreciate Marvin Gaye (although I appreciate he is highly respected), Vandross's music is lost on me. I'm always ready to be converted though Quote
JSngry Posted January 17, 2013 Report Posted January 17, 2013 Got no interest in converting anybody (to anything!), just have a personal quirk about differentiating between people who do things because they have to and people who do things because they choose to and are able to. How one receives the results is up to the individual, and there are no "right" choices, really. But as far as the appreciation of the difference, you really don't know how good some people at certain things are until you get first-hand experience with how good so may other people aren't, even if they're not at all bad at it. I mean, this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3pRJ1_dE-4 is in no way this The first guy, he's doing what he's able to do, and he's worked hard to get it there, I'm sure. and it don't exactly suck, even if it ain't great. But Luther, Luther had options. Luther could soar, dip, dive, pretty much go wherever he wanted to any way he wanted to. And yeah, he worked hard to get it there too, maybe even harder than the first guy. But hard work is only part of it. Another part is your own ceiling, how much are you going to be able to get done no matter how hard you work. And Luther was one of those guys who had a really high ceiling. I get personal taste, but I also get the difference between an amazing instrument and anything/everything else, even a really good one. Respect for something and "liking" it are two things that only sometimes overlap, at least in my mind. That's all I'm saying, really. Quote
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