colinmce Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 Saw this new Japanese reissue on DG earlier and was intrigued. Anyone know this one? Worth a try at $27 or a fairly run-of-the-mill set? http://www.dustygroove.com/item.php?id=wkm4zgbzhv&ref=featured.php&refQ=cat%3D5 Quote
king ubu Posted November 22, 2012 Report Posted November 22, 2012 Intriguing! Had no idea Sulieman played saxophone, too! Quote
clifford_thornton Posted November 23, 2012 Report Posted November 23, 2012 Yeah, I've seen the LP on offer before at a hefty price. I'd be curious to hear it.Shihab and Rosengren together would be interesting, conceivably... Quote
sidewinder Posted November 23, 2012 Report Posted November 23, 2012 (edited) Remember seeing an original LP copy of this signed by Sulieman in a London shop some years ago for about £50. Should have bought it ! Edited November 23, 2012 by sidewinder Quote
mikeweil Posted November 23, 2012 Report Posted November 23, 2012 The Camel : Bosse Broberg, Bertil Lovgren (tp) Idrees Sulieman (tp,as) Christer Boustedt (as) Bernt Rosengren, Goran Ostling (ts) Sahib Shihab (bar) Goran Lindberg (p) Bjorn Alke (b) Ivan Oscarsson (d) Ole Jacob Hansen (perc) Fredrik Noren (perc-1) Jamila Sulieman (vcl,perc-2) Stockholm, Sweden, March 19, 1964 The camel (1) Col (Swd)SSX1008 Dawud's bossa nova (1) - Sad and strange (js vcl) - Long for the blues (2) Idrees Sulieman (tp,as) Bernt Rosengren (ts-3) Lars Sjosten (p) Bjorn Alke (b) Fredrik Noren (d) Stockholm, Sweden, March 20, 1964 Blues for Emanon (3) Col (Swd)SSX1008 I remember Clifford - I'll remember April - Quote
clifford_thornton Posted November 23, 2012 Report Posted November 23, 2012 Remember seeing an original LP copy of this signed by Sulieman in a London shop some years ago for about £50. Should have bought it ! Yeah, that would have been a good deal. Quote
sidewinder Posted November 23, 2012 Report Posted November 23, 2012 (edited) Remember seeing an original LP copy of this signed by Sulieman in a London shop some years ago for about £50. Should have bought it ! Yeah, that would have been a good deal. Next time I was back (having re-considered this one) it had, of course, gone. Had hesitated initially as I had no idea whether or not the LP was any good. Should have reminded self just how good Sulieman was with the CCBB ! By way of excuse - that particular shop at the time (Intoxica) had rare original Blue Notes like Lee Morgan 'The Cooker' and one of those Donald Byrd Transitions (sans labels ) so it's not as if there was any shortage of attractions ! I believe they are just closing down now though - which doesn't bode well for London. http://www.herblester.com/blogs/journal/6128134-lament-for-intoxica Edited November 23, 2012 by sidewinder Quote
clifford_thornton Posted November 23, 2012 Report Posted November 23, 2012 (edited) Oh right, Intoxica, I think I popped in there a few years ago and they didn't have much. Edited November 23, 2012 by clifford_thornton Quote
sidewinder Posted November 23, 2012 Report Posted November 23, 2012 Oh right, Intoxica, I think I popped in there a few years ago and they didn't have much. Yes, it's some years since the good (but pricey) rare stuff was in that downstairs section. Haven't been in myself for a lonng while. Still - sad to see it go. Quote
JSngry Posted November 23, 2012 Report Posted November 23, 2012 (edited) I've always really dug Sulieman and he's more or less a forgotten player (and always kind of was), but that price is about $10.00 more than I'd feel comfortable paying for a straight-up LP issue unless it was really "special". And it very well might be that special. But I'd like to know first. Edited November 23, 2012 by JSngry Quote
colinmce Posted November 23, 2012 Author Report Posted November 23, 2012 My question exactly. But I'm pretty sure I know the answer ... and so I'll drop those 30 bills thisaway instead and walk off a much happier camper. Paul Bley -- Copenhagen & Haarlem ... LP $4.99 Remove Move to want list Ornette Coleman -- Great London Concert(aka An Evening With Ornette Coleman) ... LP $5.99 Remove Move to want list Charles Davis -- Super 80 ... LP $2.99 Remove Move to want list Booker Ervin -- Book Cooks(Affinity) ... LP $6.99 Remove Move to want list Stan Getz & Others -- Brothers & Other Mothers ... LP $0.99 Remove Move to want list Wardell Gray -- Way Out Wardell(Crown) ... LP $2.99 Remove Move to want list Howard McGhee -- Maggie The Savoy Sessions ... LP $3.99 Remove Move to want list Fats Navarro -- Fats Navarro Featured With The Tadd Dameron Band(Milestone 2LP pressing) ... LP $3.99 Remove Move to want list Quote
JSngry Posted November 23, 2012 Report Posted November 23, 2012 That's money well-spent, to be sure. And The Sulieman disc is already sold out! The presence of a vocalist and his playing alto, though, that's what's really intriguing. But I need just a little better price...seek and ye shall find, maybe. Quote
king ubu Posted February 19, 2015 Report Posted February 19, 2015 Finally spinning "The Camel" ... the title track is amazing and the album as a whole seems to be pretty good - but, I guess you sensed it, big BUT: it's a vinyl rip and it's NOISY! There are crackles and pops and stuff. Not nice for such an expensive reissue. They could have at least tracked down a collector with a mint copy. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted February 19, 2015 Report Posted February 19, 2015 yeah I know... doesn't seem like they used a very clean copy for this. Good record, would be interested in owning an original. Quote
king ubu Posted February 19, 2015 Report Posted February 19, 2015 If they hadn't used such a loud LP, it would really sound pretty darn good for a vinyl rip. At the beginning of "I Remember Clfford", there seem to be speed issues, too - that sound as if they might have been caused by slight tape warble or something ... I wonder if the LP ever sounded really good in the first place. There's an annoying grating sound behind the bass solo on the final track, too - as if they'd pushed the volume knob a bit too much and the hiss went up in volume, too. Quote
sidewinder Posted February 20, 2015 Report Posted February 20, 2015 Good record, would be interested in owning an original. Don't remind me about flamin' Intoxica again ! Quote
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