MLB Hot Stove League 2012-13

[Tim McG]

  On 11/2/2012 at 2:45 AM, J.H. Deeley said:

Here's one for you Yanks!!

They should have named this Hurricane 'A-Rod.' Then it wouldn't have hit anything.

Ba-Da-BING!

Typical Yankee fan whine.

When A-Rod was "da man", the whole city loved him. Now that he's [was] in a slump, the whole city hates him.

Bunch of NYC whiners.

Ba-Da-BOOM!

  On 11/3/2012 at 4:51 PM, JSngry said:

Ladies & Gentlemen, here are teh new uniforms of the 2013 American League Houston Astros!

It's like it's 1965 again, only...a different 1965! :alien:

Jose Altuve looks oddly Ron Brand-ish.

We're in uncharted territory.

Ugh.

I hope they play better than they look. We already did this once.

Edited November 4, 2012 by GoodSpeak

[JSngry]

  On 11/3/2012 at 6:14 PM, Neal Pomea said:

I believe the '65 uniform had the word Astros but with a swoosh of some sort to suggest a shooting star, no?

Which a few years later morphed into:

Not as good.

  On 11/3/2012 at 6:19 PM, Matthew said:

No love for these?

Ya' know, as time has gone by, those look better and better...but never really good.

[Matthew]

  On 11/4/2012 at 12:28 AM, JSngry said:

  On 11/3/2012 at 6:14 PM, Neal Pomea said:

I believe the '65 uniform had the word Astros but with a swoosh of some sort to suggest a shooting star, no?

Which a few years later morphed into:

Not as good.

  On 11/3/2012 at 6:19 PM, Matthew said:

No love for these?

Ya' know, as time has gone by, those look better and better...but never really good.

I always think of Mike Scott pitching that no-hitter to clinch the division when I see the rainbow uni's

[Quincy]

  On 11/3/2012 at 6:19 PM, Matthew said:

No love for these?

Those uniforms make me want to have a hot dog, or a pretzel with mustard, or...It must have been great for concessions. I like all of the Astros fashions that have been shown.

[JSngry]

I always think of those as being part of MLB's Softball Uniform Era (remember the ChiSox wearing short pants?). But those Astros "rainbows" (as the hardcore Astros fans refer to them, apparently) are said to be the all-time fan favorites, so hey, right? They do have a certain unique charm to them.

[Tim McG]

Ack

[Matthew]

Baseball uni's in the 1970s were the coolest ever! LONG LIVE 1970S BASEBALL UNIFORMS!!!!!

[JSngry]

Dude, I spent a lot of the 70s being really, really high, and even then I didn't think those were good ideas.

[Neal Pomea]

  On 11/4/2012 at 12:28 AM, JSngry said:

  On 11/3/2012 at 6:14 PM, Neal Pomea said:

I believe the '65 uniform had the word Astros but with a swoosh of some sort to suggest a shooting star, no?

I love the Jerry Seinfeld-Brian Regan conversation about "We can put a man on the moon but we can't do this?"

from Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIN8JzCjY_Y

go to 3:00

Edited November 4, 2012 by Neal Pomea

[Dave James]

Mariano Rivera's decision to return in 2013 puts the Yankees in a real quandary. I love Mo, but I wish he'd have taken one for the team and hung up his spikes.

[Matthew]

I hope the Dodgers go after B.J. Upton instead of Hamilton, Upton is much younger and has more of a up side career wise, than Hamilton, who, to my mind, is on the downside of his career.

Re: Rivera: From all that I've read, I guess that means that the Yankees will let Soriano go, though that is a tough one if Mo' doesn't make it all the way back. I wonder why teams let these Boras players have the "opt-out" year on their contracts? Doesn't make any sense to me, too often they leave a club in a lurch.

Edited November 4, 2012 by Matthew

[Tim McG]

  On 11/4/2012 at 4:01 PM, Matthew said:

I hope the Dodgers go after B.J. Upton instead of Hamilton, Upton is much younger and has more of a up side career wise, than Hamilton, who, to my mind, is on the downside of his career.

Re: Rivera: From all that I've read, I guess that means that the Yankees will let Soriano go, though that is a tough one if Mo' doesn't make it all the way back. I wonder why teams let these Boras players have the "opt-out" year on their contracts? Doesn't make any sense to me, too often they leave a club in a lurch.

If you ask me, it's because Boras has burned some bridges ala Barry Zito and other multi-year money pits.

If I was a GM, anybody with a contract with that greedhead isn't going to be my first choice. Besides, the Giants [and with their farm hands] and the A's have picked up decent talent for a fraction of the cost a big name would be...and put a successful team(s) on the field. Maybe this will be a positive trend toward bringing in ballpalyers instead of millionaire crybabies owned by Boras.

Edited November 4, 2012 by GoodSpeak

[JSngry]

Elvis Andrus is a Boras client, and is hardly a crybaby. You'd be hard-pressed to find a more infectiously joyful young man playing the game today, in fact!

But I'm afraid I will be when Boras gets him a deal with somebody who is not the Rangers...

[Tim McG]

  On 11/4/2012 at 8:58 PM, JSngry said:

Elvis Andrus is a Boras client, and is hardly a crybaby. You'd be hard-pressed to find a more infectiously joyful young man playing the game today, in fact!

But I'm afraid I will be when Boras gets him a deal with somebody who is not the Rangers...

Good point.

All I'm saying is Boras has worn out his "welcome". Become a pariah, you might say. His players will pay for that.

[paul secor]

  On 11/4/2012 at 4:01 PM, Matthew said:

Re: Rivera: From all that I've read, I guess that means that the Yankees will let Soriano go, though that is a tough one if Mo' doesn't make it all the way back. I wonder why teams let these Boras players have the "opt-out" year on their contracts? Doesn't make any sense to me, too often they leave a club in a lurch.

I hope that Mariano has something left. If not, there's always hope that David Robertson can return to his 2010 form. I watched Soriano all year and he wasn't as good as his saves/blown saves record might indicate. He got himself in trouble in quite a few games - though he did get himself out of trouble most times. He was no Mariano. That said, I'd offer him a one year deal - two at the max. If he can get a better deal elsewhere, good for him.

[Tim McG]

Giants back-up catcher Eli Whiteside was claimed off waivers by the Yankees

M'kay.

[JSngry]

[Chalupa]

Weird rumors flying around the internet that the Phillies are close to signing Josh Hamilton. I might just have to boycott the 2013 season if they do.

[PHILLYQ]

  On 11/13/2012 at 1:15 AM, J.H. Deeley said:

Weird rumors flying around the internet that the Phillies are close to signing Josh Hamilton. I might just have to boycott the 2013 season if they do.

I take it you don't care for Hamilton, or is it that you think it's a bad move by the Phillies? I'm just curious as to why.

[Chalupa]

  On 11/13/2012 at 1:49 AM, PHILLYQ said:

  On 11/13/2012 at 1:15 AM, J.H. Deeley said:

Weird rumors flying around the internet that the Phillies are close to signing Josh Hamilton. I might just have to boycott the 2013 season if they do.

I take it you don't care for Hamilton, or is it that you think it's a bad move by the Phillies? I'm just curious as to why.

Why would I think signing Hamilton would be a bad move?? Forget for a minute that he will be 32 in May and that his numbers are trending downward. Forget that there are legitimate concerns about his ability to stay on the field and that he has past issues with substance abuse. Forget that Hamilton bats lefty and the Philllies already have two left handed hitters at 3 & 4 in their lineup(Utley & Howard). Forget that Hamilton will get a huge contract and that the Phillies have a ton of money($130 M for 2013) committed to about 8 players(Doc, Hamels, Utley, Howard, Rollins, Lee, Chooch, and Paps) with more pressing needs(3rd base, BP) to fill. Forget all that.

The real reason I don't want him on the Phillies?? He's is a streaky hitter.

Look the last thing the Phillies need is Josh Hamilton. A team bulging with players in their 30's that can no longer perform at the level of their bloated contracts wants to take on another bloated contract for a bible thumping player in his 30's with all kinds of on/off field issues?? In this town with its crazy fans??? What could possibly go wrong??

Edited November 13, 2012 by J.H. Deeley

[Chalupa]

Whoa. Ken Rosenthal says that the Miami Marlins have traded Jose Reyes, Josh Johnson, and Mark Buerhle to the Toronto Blue Jays for Yunel Escobar, and Adeiny Hechavarria, Henderson Alvarez, prospects.

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/miami-marlins-toronto-blue-jays-blockbuster-trade-jose-reyes-josh-johnson-mark-buehrle-yunel-escobar-emilio-bonifacio-111312

They should just remove baseball from south Florida.

[Matthew]

  On 11/14/2012 at 12:07 AM, J.H. Deeley said:

Whoa. Ken Rosenthal says that the Miami Marlins have traded Jose Reyes, Josh Johnson, and Mark Buerhle to the Toronto Blue Jays for Yunel Escobar, and Adeiny Hechavarria, Henderson Alvarez, prospects.

http://msn.foxsports...onifacio-111312

They should just remove baseball from south Florida.

Miami has never supported baseball, that's two franchises that Jeffrey Loria has driven into the ground -- The Expos & The Marlins. But, hey, he's a buddy of Bud Selig, so he can do whatever he wants.

[Dave James]

Maybe they're trying to free up cash to sign Alex Rodriguez.

[Matthew]

  On 11/14/2012 at 12:53 AM, Dave James said:

Maybe they're trying to free up cash to sign Alex Rodriguez.

Ha! He and Loria deserve each other. You gotta love Idiot Bud Selig -- Mark Cuban owning a team is bad for baseball, but people like McCourt & Loria are okay. That makes so much sense Bud.

[PHILLYQ]

  On 11/13/2012 at 4:31 AM, J.H. Deeley said:

  On 11/13/2012 at 1:49 AM, PHILLYQ said:

  On 11/13/2012 at 1:15 AM, J.H. Deeley said:

Weird rumors flying around the internet that the Phillies are close to signing Josh Hamilton. I might just have to boycott the 2013 season if they do.

I take it you don't care for Hamilton, or is it that you think it's a bad move by the Phillies? I'm just curious as to why.

Why would I think signing Hamilton would be a bad move?? Forget for a minute that he will be 32 in May and that his numbers are trending downward. Forget that there are legitimate concerns about his ability to stay on the field and that he has past issues with substance abuse. Forget that Hamilton bats lefty and the Philllies already have two left handed hitters at 3 & 4 in their lineup(Utley & Howard). Forget that Hamilton will get a huge contract and that the Phillies have a ton of money($130 M for 2013) committed to about 8 players(Doc, Hamels, Utley, Howard, Rollins, Lee, Chooch, and Paps) with more pressing needs(3rd base, BP) to fill. Forget all that.

The real reason I don't want him on the Phillies?? He's is a streaky hitter.

Look the last thing the Phillies need is Josh Hamilton. A team bulging with players in their 30's that can no longer perform at the level of their bloated contracts wants to take on another bloated contract for a bible thumping player in his 30's with all kinds of on/off field issues?? In this town with its crazy fans??? What could possibly go wrong??

Well, you certainly answered my question! I didn't really know much of their contract situation outside of Lee & Halliday & Hamels & Howard getting massive $$. It certainly does look like a bad move for Philly.

  On 11/14/2012 at 1:13 AM, Matthew said:

  On 11/14/2012 at 12:53 AM, Dave James said:

Maybe they're trying to free up cash to sign Alex Rodriguez.

Ha! He and Loria deserve each other. You gotta love Idiot Bud Selig -- Mark Cuban owning a team is bad for baseball, but people like McCourt & Loria are okay. That makes so much sense Bud.

Mark Cuban, who actually gives a hoot about his team and tries(and spends the $$) to put out a product that the fans want to see is soooo bad for baseball. Think what he could do with the Cubs.