CJ Shearn Posted October 23, 2012 Report Posted October 23, 2012 So glad it's another live album! It'd be very hard to keep the spur of the moment creativity of that quartet in a studio environment unless they just let them go. http://www.bluenote.com/news/wayne-shorter-returns-to-blue-note-records/ Quote
CJ Shearn Posted October 23, 2012 Author Report Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) Which are the "new" compositions? Obviously "Pegasus", Bertrand, any idea on the others? My guess is Wayne has been playing these tunes for quite sometime, its just that these are new on record. Thanks! Blue Note hits a new note redux is giving us something good. Edited October 23, 2012 by CJ Shearn Quote
Stefan Wood Posted October 23, 2012 Report Posted October 23, 2012 What Wayne has been playing only he and his band mates know. There are hints at compositions; but they veer off to parts unknown, and god bless them for it. Quote
bertrand Posted October 24, 2012 Report Posted October 24, 2012 The tracks are: 1. Orbits (4:49) 2. Starry Night (8:48) 3. S. S. Golden Mean (5:17) 4. Plaza Real (6:56) 5. Myrrh (3:03) 6. Pegasus (23:06) 7. Flying Down to Rio (12:44) 8. Zero Gravity (8:13) 9. UFO (4:12) 'Orbits' is probably the new version (from Alegria). Don't think I ever heard the quartet play this without an orchestra. Very psyched that he resurrected 'Plaza Real' - possibly my favorite Shorter piece. 'Flying Down To Rio' is something he started playing last year. It's the same piece as 'The Carioca' (also on Dizzy at Newport and Philly Joe Drums Around The World). 'Starry Night' and 'Myrrh' are titles I have heard mentioned and seen listed in reviews. I probably have heard them but don't know which is which. 'UFO' and 'S.S. Golden mean' are new titles to me - I wonder if the latter is related to 'Adventures Aboard The Golden Mean'. He already had a piece called 'Zero Gravity' (credited to the whole band) - it was a bonus track on the Japanese pressing of Sound Barrier. That version was a variation on 'Prince Of Darkness' - I bet this one is different. The group has been using that title for a while for many of their spontaneous improvisations. 'Pegasus' is fascinating - it starts off as the intro to 'Witch Hunt', then goes elsewhere. I heard it at Carnegie Hall with the Imani Winds in December 2008. My only quibble is this could have been two CDs - one quartet, and one with the Imani Winds. He had great arrangements of 'The Three Marias', 'Prometheus Unbound' and 'Night Dreamer' for this group. We may never get official releases of these arrangements. Also, it seems there is still no official recording of 'Prometheus Unbound'. But some great news indeed! It also poses a discographical question (see discography). One last thought: he's back on Blue Note after 43 years. Now would be the prefect time to issue the 10/13/70 session, which was his previous Blue Note record. I know it's a long shot, but enough time has gone by, and what a marketing opportunity. Bertrand. Quote
CJ Shearn Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) I have "Prometheus Unbound" somewhere from a radio broadcast from the tour with Hancock Holland and Blade. Thanks as always for your thorough investigation of Wayne's music Bertrand! I think "Moto Grosso Feio" is being issued in Japan soon. Edited October 24, 2012 by CJ Shearn Quote
7/4 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Posted October 24, 2012 One last thought: he's back on Blue Note after 43 years. Now would be the prefect time to issue the 10/13/70 session, which was his previous Blue Note record. I know it's a long shot, but enough time has gone by, and what a marketing opportunity. Bertrand. Odyssey of Iska? Quote
CJ Shearn Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Posted October 24, 2012 One last thought: he's back on Blue Note after 43 years. Now would be the prefect time to issue the 10/13/70 session, which was his previous Blue Note record. I know it's a long shot, but enough time has gone by, and what a marketing opportunity. Bertrand. Odyssey of Iska? Wayne Shorter Quintet Wayne Shorter (ts) Barbara Burton (vib, bells, per) McCoy Tyner (p) Miroslav Vitous (b) Alphonse Mouzon (d, per) A&R Studios, NYC, October 13, 1970 tk.3 Pt. 1: The Creation Blue Note rejected tk.4 Pt. 2: B. Because - tk.5 Pt. 3: Cee - tk.7 Pt. 4: Dee - tk.8 Pt. 5: Effe - 1971 Wayne really dislikes this session, as is stated in the Connoisseur wishlist 2007 thread, Michael Cuscuna played the tapes for Wayne, and he was unhappy with the results. Quote
Stefan Wood Posted October 24, 2012 Report Posted October 24, 2012 (edited) It'll only be released after he passes away, like The Struggle Continues with Dewey Redman. Edited October 24, 2012 by Stefan Wood Quote
clifford_thornton Posted October 24, 2012 Report Posted October 24, 2012 Unless you're talking about something else, Ear of the Behearer came out on CD in 1991 (Japan)/1998 (US), well before Dewey passed. Quote
JSngry Posted October 24, 2012 Report Posted October 24, 2012 Even at that, was the whole of Coincide ever put out on American CD? Quote
Morganized Posted October 25, 2012 Report Posted October 25, 2012 What Wayne has been playing only he and his band mates know. There are hints at compositions; but they veer off to parts unknown, and god bless them for it. My thoughts as well. What a treasure. To maximize the pleasure that this group brings it is important to spend some significant time with Wayne's lifetime body of work IMHO. He speaks to it all. Amazing really. I look forward to this release. Quote
bertrand Posted October 25, 2012 Report Posted October 25, 2012 Wayne's opinion dates back to 1995. Is it possible it may have changed in 17 years? When I did the inventory for his bio in 2006, one of the questions I had passed on to him concerned the compositions on this session. He didn't seem to remember much about this session at all, which surprised me. Bertrand. Quote
crisp Posted October 25, 2012 Report Posted October 25, 2012 'Flying Down To Rio' is something he started playing last year. It's the same piece as 'The Carioca' (also on Dizzy at Newport and Philly Joe Drums Around The World). That's two different songs, both from the same film, unless Shorter has made a mistake (hope not because Flying Down To Rio is a nice quirky choice, The Carioca less so). Quote
king ubu Posted October 26, 2012 Report Posted October 26, 2012 Great news, will be looking forward to this album!Gee, what a moronic sentence: I AM (already, now!) looking forward! Quote
ejp626 Posted October 26, 2012 Report Posted October 26, 2012 Wayne's opinion dates back to 1995. Is it possible it may have changed in 17 years? When I did the inventory for his bio in 2006, one of the questions I had passed on to him concerned the compositions on this session. He didn't seem to remember much about this session at all, which surprised me. Bertrand. Suggests to me that he found it an unpleasant memory, best repressed. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for him to change his mind... Quote
colinmce Posted October 26, 2012 Report Posted October 26, 2012 Even at that, was the whole of Coincide ever put out on American CD? No Quote
bertrand Posted October 26, 2012 Report Posted October 26, 2012 Definitely two different tunes. I'm not sure why I thought they were the same (Keepnes notes to the Philly Joe CD?). 'Rio' is the tune Wayne plays (compared it to Tito Puente's). Bertrand. Quote
CJ Shearn Posted October 27, 2012 Author Report Posted October 27, 2012 Orrin Keepnews is never wrong,is he? Quote
Bol Posted October 27, 2012 Report Posted October 27, 2012 Glad to hear that this is coming out. But I myself could have done without the Imani Winds and more of the quartet. When I attended a concert with IW, I found the performance rather ungainly and boring. The pieces didn't breathe like the pieces with just the quartet. And I wish there was a recording of the dates with Jason Moran. Would be interested in hearing the differences. Quote
mjzee Posted September 29, 2014 Report Posted September 29, 2014 Anyone here familiar with this? Release date was September 9: Quote
erwbol Posted September 29, 2014 Report Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) Anyone here familiar with this? Release date was September 9: This looks different from the recent crowd funded documentary. With the 93 min. of concert footage I will get this when the price is right. Edited September 29, 2014 by erwbol Quote
GA Russell Posted September 29, 2014 Report Posted September 29, 2014 http://www.amazon.de/Wayne-Shorter-Quartet-Language-DVD/dp/B00L3EZEJ4/ref=sr_1_sc_2?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1412006410&sr=1-2-spell&keywords=wayne+shorter+quintet http://www.amazon.de/Wayne-Shorter-Quartet-Language-Blu-ray/dp/B00LU8URBI/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1412006480&sr=1-1-spell&keywords=wayne+shorter+quintet Amazon.de has both the DVD and the Blu-Ray for EUR 30,99. Quote
mjzee Posted September 29, 2014 Report Posted September 29, 2014 http://www.amazon.de/Wayne-Shorter-Quartet-Language-DVD/dp/B00L3EZEJ4/ref=sr_1_sc_2?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1412006410&sr=1-2-spell&keywords=wayne+shorter+quintethttp://www.amazon.de/Wayne-Shorter-Quartet-Language-Blu-ray/dp/B00LU8URBI/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1412006480&sr=1-1-spell&keywords=wayne+shorter+quintet Amazon.de has both the DVD and the Blu-Ray for EUR 30,99. In the U.S. It's only $27.98. Quote
_forumlogo.png.a607ef20a6e0c299ab2aa6443aa1f32e.png)
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.