Curtis Amy Select

[Rooster_Ties]

2 hours ago, HutchFan said:

By the way, does your LP smell like pepperoni?

That's a rather personal question.

[HutchFan]

10 minutes ago, Rooster_Ties said:

That's a rather personal question.

  LOL

 

[Dan Gould]

3 hours ago, mikeweil said:

Just unpacked a parcel from a Swiss discogs seller (they call themselves Vesuvio Records and used a pizza box for packing ....) as they had an affordable copy in good condition of a Pacific Jazz sampler I always wanted to have:

It turns out the take of This Is The Blues on this sampler is different from the one on Amy/Bryant's The Blues Message LP and the Select. So Mosaic missed a take! (They also could have included the one track from a McCann session in the Select - this was reissued on the CD version of Les McCann in New York).

By the way that Jackie Davis was (I strongly believe) a 45-only release with Harold Land. Unless there was an alternate used for this LP?

The French get the better covers:

 

[mikeweil]

2 hours ago, Dan Gould said:

By the way that Jackie Davis was (I strongly believe) a 45-only release with Harold Land. Unless there was an alternate used for this LP?

Looks like an example of Richard Bock's obsession with  editing:

[JSngry]

When looking at 45 edits, one should always consider the jukebox. Blue Note would often split an LP cut over two sides of a 45, so that's one way to get two plays for a record. This is another way, make two shorter cuts out of two LP cuts. Same thing with DJs.

Calling James Harrod!!! What can you dig up about the L.A. area jukebox trade in jazz and jazz friendly venues?

[mikeweil]

Pacific Jazz released a considerable number of 7" 33rpm records, meant for DJs, or radio play, or juke boxes? 

The single Harold Land track with Jackie Davis seems to be a one shot affair. I cannot find any other tracks with about the same personnel or whatever. The two compilations, btw, have different edits of that same track - the one on the LP I just bought unfortunately is the shortened version.

And yes, it would take someone like James Harrod to sort out all the different versions of tracks Richard Bock used on his compilations, and list the CD reissues they were added to as bonus tracks. Fresh Sound thought about some, Cuscuna used some, but both overlooked a few.

Edited August 26, 2021 by mikeweil

[JSngry]

2 hours ago, mikeweil said:

Pacific Jazz released a considerable number of 7" 33rpm records, meant for DJs, or radio play, or juke boxes?

I don't know, they did?

This looks like a 45 to me:

Looks like they did a fair number:

http://www.globaldogproductions.info/p/pacific-jazz-world-pacific.html

[JSngry]

Has this made it to CD, tucked into something?

Pacific Jazz

302

Billy Higgins

Me And My Lover Up In Teddy's New Flat

1960

[Dan Gould]

10 hours ago, JSngry said:

Has this made it to CD, tucked into something?

Pacific Jazz

302

Billy Higgins

Me And My Lover Up In Teddy's New Flat

1960

I don't know if its still the case, but it hadn't been issued when a kind board member sent me all of these PJ 45s many years ago - Billy singing, and the Harold Land/Teddy Edwards combo too.

[mikeweil]

21 hours ago, JSngry said:

I don't know, they did?

Here ar some:

 

21 hours ago, JSngry said:

Has this made it to CD, tucked into something?

Pacific Jazz

302

Billy Higgins

Me And My Lover Up In Teddy's New Flat

1960

Yes:

https://www.freshsoundrecords.com/teddy-edwards-albums/5471-sunset-eyes-teddy-edwards-quartet-complete-recordings-4-lps-on-2-cds.html

As I said, Cuscuna overlooked this like so many other oddities, I won't blame him, as there is no definite Pacific Jazz discography, but he could have looked into Lord.

Even Jordi Pujol didn't catch all of them!

I love this single - I love these vocal tunes by jazz instrumentalists. Reminds of Kenny Dorham's "Chicago" for Debut which remained unissued until the OJC CD. I always play this several times in a row.

[Dan Gould]

32 minutes ago, mikeweil said:

 

https://www.freshsoundrecords.com/teddy-edwards-albums/5471-sunset-eyes-teddy-edwards-quartet-complete-recordings-4-lps-on-2-cds.html

 

As these Fresh Sound things go, this is a pretty good combination. Getting the Higgins vocal out is worthwhile, and the Gloria Smyth record is pretty enjoyable, I've had it for a while. (And now that I think about it, I am virtually certain I used the Higgins vocal on a BFT, a long while ago.)

[mikeweil]

Just now, Dan Gould said:

(And now that I think about it, I am virtually certain I used the Higgins vocal on a BFT, a long while ago.)

That's why this track sounds so familiar to me!

[BFrank]

I have the Sunset Eyes CD that was reissued in the Pacific Jazz West Coast Classics series. It has 3 'bonus tracks'.

[mikeweil]

8 hours ago, BFrank said:

I have the Sunset Eyes CD that was reissued in the Pacific Jazz West Coast Classics series. It has 3 'bonus tracks'.

Yes, but not the Higgins vocal!

[jlhoots]

8 hours ago, BFrank said:

I have the Sunset Eyes CD that was reissued in the Pacific Jazz West Coast Classics series. It has 3 'bonus tracks'.

So do I. Do I "need" Higgins vocal??

[Rooster_Ties]

14 minutes ago, jlhoots said:

So do I. Do I "need" Higgins vocal??

This is the only Billy Higgins vocal I know personally — are there many more?

 

[mikeweil]

1 hour ago, jlhoots said:

So do I. Do I "need" Higgins vocal??

It's plain fun!

And the one on the Anthony Cox LP is so sensitively pseudo-Brazilian - nobody else could do this.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

2 hours ago, Rooster_Ties said:

This is the only Billy Higgins vocal I know personally — are there many more?

 

Billy did the vocal on the title track of Donald Byrd's 'Slow drag' - a GREAT vocal.

MG

 

[BillF]

6 minutes ago, The Magnificent Goldberg said:

Billy did the vocal on the title track of Donald Byrd's 'Slow drag' - a GREAT vocal.

MG

 

Return of the Prodigal (Moderator)! 

[Larry Kart]

4 hours ago, Rooster_Ties said:

This is the only Billy Higgins vocal I know personally — are there many more?

 

He also sings on "Slow Drag" from Lee Morgan's "Caramba."

[danasgoodstuff]

43 minutes ago, Larry Kart said:

He also sings on "Slow Drag" from Lee Morgan's "Caramba."

"Slow Drag" is the lead track from Donald Byrd's album of the Same name, Slow Drag BST 84292.  Billy does indeed vocalize on the fadeout, not sure I'd call that singing.

[Larry Kart]

You're right --oops on my part. Whatever what BH does is called, I remember that I found it entertaining.

[danasgoodstuff]

2 minutes ago, Larry Kart said:

You're right --oops on my part. Whatever what BH does is called, I remember that I found it entertaining.

Definitely agree that it's fun - wish it was up a little in the mix.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

19 minutes ago, danasgoodstuff said:

Definitely agree that it's fun - wish it was up a little in the mix.

I've got it in mind that someone else did something similar... AH! 

Walter Perkins, on Charles Earland's 'Mama roots'.

 

MG

[BFrank]

9 hours ago, mikeweil said:

Yes, but not the Higgins vocal!

Correct. And less than half of the tunes on that "Complete" version.