A Lark Ascending Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 (edited) More than two tubas. Not even Bruckner 7? OK, you're going to play the 'Bruckner is not 'real jazz' card! Edited October 27, 2012 by A Lark Ascending Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 More than two tubas. Not even Bruckner 7? OK, you're going to play the 'Bruckner is not 'real jazz' card! Well there's a lot of trumpets in Bruckner so could be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Lark Ascending Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 (edited) More than two tubas. Not even Bruckner 7? OK, you're going to play the 'Bruckner is not 'real jazz' card! Well there's a lot of trumpets in Bruckner so could be... He'd be called 'Beans' Bruckner or something similar if he was jazz. 'Bratwurst' Bruckner, perhaps? Edited October 27, 2012 by A Lark Ascending Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 More than two tubas. Not even Bruckner 7? OK, you're going to play the 'Bruckner is not 'real jazz' card! Well there's a lot of trumpets in Bruckner so could be... Head be called 'Beans' Bruckner or something similar if he was jazz. 'Bratwurst' Bruckner, perhaps? OK I'm going to change it to more than two *types* of tuba. That way Bruckner gets through and we don't have to split hairs over whether he's jazz or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 Buckner with tubas? Not sure it ever really happened. None here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 Buckner with tubas? Not sure it ever really happened. None here. The tubas are warming up outside. There's no rush when it comes to tubas. They are worth the wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Lark Ascending Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 Buckner with tubas? Not sure it ever really happened. None here. The tubas are warming up outside. There's no rush when it comes to tubas. They are worth the wait. They were Wagner tubas. Buckner felt that made them ideologically unsound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 More power to Buckner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Lark Ascending Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 Something I don't like in jazz (or popular music in general) is when a performer plays a few recognisable notes of a hit or a well known song and everyone bursts into applause. Who are they applauding? The performer for choosing that song; or themselves for recognising it within a few notes? My, that was a grouchy one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 Something I don't like in jazz (or popular music in general) is when a performer plays a few recognisable notes of a hit or a well known song and everyone bursts into applause. Who are they applauding? The performer for choosing that song; or themselves for recognising it within a few notes? My, that was a grouchy one! That's like when you do something that demonstrates basic competency at life and somebody will say (usually with their eyebrows raised), "AWESOME!!!" I mean, fuck that, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rostasi Posted October 27, 2012 Report Share Posted October 27, 2012 Sometimes, it's pretty good when the applause comes during/after a non-recognizable riff. It seems more from the heart as if it hit an emotional spot. An example would be the first notes from Healing Song from Live at the East - Pharoah Sanders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Something I don't like in jazz (or popular music in general) is when a performer plays a few recognisable notes of a hit or a well known song and everyone bursts into applause. Who are they applauding? The performer for choosing that song; or themselves for recognising it within a few notes? My, that was a grouchy one! That's got something to do with a thread here a few years ago about how some (most?) people can't recognise a well known song if it has different words; they don't pick up on the tune itself, even though they know it, or the instrumental intro, so when they do get to a point where it's recognisable, they applaud. I always thought this was peculiar, until I read that thread. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Lark Ascending Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 That moment in a concert when the bass player (it is usually the bass player) starts clapping his hands over his head with the clear implication that you have to join in. Especially painful amongst British audiences who generally do not have rhythm (they should really ask us to waggle our upper lips). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertoart Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 Something I don't like in jazz (or popular music in general) is when a performer plays a few recognisable notes of a hit or a well known song and everyone bursts into applause. Who are they applauding? The performer for choosing that song; or themselves for recognising it within a few notes? My, that was a grouchy one! That's got something to do with a thread here a few years ago about how some (most?) people can't recognise a well known song if it has different words; they don't pick up on the tune itself, even though they know it, or the instrumental intro, so when they do get to a point where it's recognisable, they applaud. I always thought this was peculiar, until I read that thread. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brownian Motion Posted October 28, 2012 Report Share Posted October 28, 2012 No free in my jazz, please. No electric instruments, a handful of vibists and guitarists excepted. No no women in my jazz or in my listening cohort. No giants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:.impossible Posted October 29, 2012 Report Share Posted October 29, 2012 Something I don't like in jazz (or popular music in general) is when a performer plays a few recognisable notes of a hit or a well known song and everyone bursts into applause. Who are they applauding? The performer for choosing that song; or themselves for recognising it within a few notes? My, that was a grouchy one! That's got something to do with a thread here a few years ago about how some (most?) people can't recognise a well known song if it has different words; they don't pick up on the tune itself, even though they know it, or the instrumental intro, so when they do get to a point where it's recognisable, they applaud. I always thought this was peculiar, until I read that thread. MG She did a good job. I got all three pretty easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Al Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Something I don't like in jazz (or popular music in general) is when a performer plays a few recognisable notes of a hit or a well known song and everyone bursts into applause. Who are they applauding? The performer for choosing that song; or themselves for recognising it within a few notes? My, that was a grouchy one! I know what you mean, but I can think of one instance where my son and I applauded out of sheer excitement that a song we thought would never get played live was being played live: Metallica's "The Call of Ktulu." (I know it's not jazz, hang with me a second) I mean, we went apeshit!!! And then after the introduction, they started playing "The Unforgiven." THAT'S when everyone else in the crowd went nuts. My son and I, however, went to the concession stand.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Lark Ascending Posted October 30, 2012 Report Share Posted October 30, 2012 Something I don't like in jazz (or popular music in general) is when a performer plays a few recognisable notes of a hit or a well known song and everyone bursts into applause. Who are they applauding? The performer for choosing that song; or themselves for recognising it within a few notes? My, that was a grouchy one! I know what you mean, but I can think of one instance where my son and I applauded out of sheer excitement that a song we thought would never get played live was being played live: Metallica's "The Call of Ktulu." (I know it's not jazz, hang with me a second) I mean, we went apeshit!!! And then after the introduction, they started playing "The Unforgiven." THAT'S when everyone else in the crowd went nuts. My son and I, however, went to the concession stand.... No problem with a spontaneous response like that. It's the ritual that irritates. I'm not good on rituals. Must be the lapsed Catholic in me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swinging Swede Posted December 30, 2012 Report Share Posted December 30, 2012 Vocals. Bass solos Poetry readings Screaming thru your horn, pretending you're saying something meaningful & profound when all you're doing is... well, screaming thru your horn... Ditto to all of these, at least bowed bass solos. Harpsichord is fine though. I think it could be used more in jazz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Soprano saxophones (with rare exceptions) Took the words out of my mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwbol Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 No to singers No to trombone solos No to organs No to electric pianos No to drum computers or electronic beats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 No to singers No to trombone solos No to organs No to electric pianos No to drum computers or electronic beats Well, at least I can agree with you on #5! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Neither constipation nor diarrhea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Ptah Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) What I don't like is mainstream jazz being played with no conviction or energy, and with long solos which contain no originality, inspiration, or interest. I have seen too many jazz concerts like that. The musicians seem to have the attitude that since they are playing mainstream acoustic jazz, it is "real music" and we should be grateful, no matter how dull their playing is. Otherwise, I have no problems with any instrument or style of jazz. I have heard both inspired and dull music played on literally every instrument. Edited December 31, 2012 by Hot Ptah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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