PHILLYQ Posted October 19, 2012 Report Posted October 19, 2012 Smooth High five to SS1 for that!!! Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted October 19, 2012 Report Posted October 19, 2012 Smooth Arthur Prysock? Ray Charles/Betty Carter? MG Quote
mjazzg Posted October 19, 2012 Report Posted October 19, 2012 Beatles tunes yes, yes and yes again (mind you I don't even like the majority of them performed by the Beatles) Quote
BruceH Posted October 19, 2012 Report Posted October 19, 2012 I love the Beatles, but must agree that "jazzed-up" versions of their songs are usually a drag. Quote
.:.impossible Posted October 19, 2012 Report Posted October 19, 2012 Beatles tunes My exception would be Gary McFarland. Quote
Tim McG Posted October 19, 2012 Report Posted October 19, 2012 I love the Beatles, but must agree that "jazzed-up" versions of their songs are usually a drag. I dunno. The Blue Note compilation is pretty good, IMHO. Quote
JSngry Posted October 19, 2012 Author Report Posted October 19, 2012 Chorels instead of Challs, although allowances can be made if truly justified.. Quote
Pete C Posted October 19, 2012 Report Posted October 19, 2012 Japanese people singing in English , harps and accordions. One of my favorite albums is "Toshiro Mifune Sings for Swingin' Lovers," with Dorothy Ashby and Art Van Damme. Quote
PHILLYQ Posted October 20, 2012 Report Posted October 20, 2012 Smooth Arthur Prysock? Ray Charles/Betty Carter? MG MG, I think SS1 means what's marketed as 'smooth jazz' but is really instrumental R'n'B with all rough edges shaved away and almost no relationship to blues at all. Rippingtons and their ilk. Quote
mikeweil Posted October 20, 2012 Report Posted October 20, 2012 I just remembered that what I like the least is squeaky clarinets. Quote
JSngry Posted October 20, 2012 Author Report Posted October 20, 2012 Who is Rick Holmes? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dBzcde8Knk Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted October 20, 2012 Report Posted October 20, 2012 Smooth Arthur Prysock? Ray Charles/Betty Carter? MG MG, I think SS1 means what's marketed as 'smooth jazz' but is really instrumental R'n'B with all rough edges shaved away and almost no relationship to blues at all. Rippingtons and their ilk. Most soul jazz could be characterised as instrumental R&B. MG Quote
Dan Gould Posted October 20, 2012 Report Posted October 20, 2012 Smooth Arthur Prysock? Ray Charles/Betty Carter? MG MG, I think SS1 means what's marketed as 'smooth jazz' but is really instrumental R'n'B with all rough edges shaved away and almost no relationship to blues at all. Rippingtons and their ilk. Most soul jazz could be characterised as instrumental R&B. MG But it has plenty of "B". Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted October 20, 2012 Report Posted October 20, 2012 Smooth Arthur Prysock? Ray Charles/Betty Carter? MG MG, I think SS1 means what's marketed as 'smooth jazz' but is really instrumental R'n'B with all rough edges shaved away and almost no relationship to blues at all. Rippingtons and their ilk. Most soul jazz could be characterised as instrumental R&B. MG But it has plenty of "B". Indeed it does. Its development paralleled that of R&B (most of the people who developed R&B were jazz musicians) and, when R&B went smooth, so did Soul Jazz. (George Benson knows why) MG Quote
mikelz777 Posted October 20, 2012 Report Posted October 20, 2012 Beatles tunes My exception would be Gary McFarland. And the Jazz Crusaders/Crusaders. Quote
jeffcrom Posted October 21, 2012 Report Posted October 21, 2012 Beatles tunes My exception would be Gary McFarland. And the Jazz Crusaders/Crusaders. And Lonnie Smith. Quote
JETman Posted October 21, 2012 Report Posted October 21, 2012 Yet another Steve Lacy or David Murray album. The assumption that "energy" music is high art, or even always music. The mystery of Cecil Taylor's frequent ramblings automatically being labelled "genius". Vandermark receiving a MacArthur Grant. Avant Garde being considered "cool" because it uses the word "avant". Quote
robertoart Posted October 21, 2012 Report Posted October 21, 2012 (edited) Smooth Arthur Prysock? Ray Charles/Betty Carter? MG MG, I think SS1 means what's marketed as 'smooth jazz' but is really instrumental R'n'B with all rough edges shaved away and almost no relationship to blues at all. Rippingtons and their ilk. Most soul jazz could be characterised as instrumental R&B. MG But it has plenty of "B". Indeed it does. Its development paralleled that of R&B (most of the people who developed R&B were jazz musicians) and, when R&B went smooth, so did Soul Jazz. (George Benson knows why) MG I don't think GB's really responsible for the Smooth Jazz genre. He had so much energy in his playing they couldn't stifle it. I think it's the Verve Wes Montgomery sessions, and then even more so - his last A&M ones. The A&M ones really smooth it over. Even Grant Green's Easy - is more lush than the Benson albums, before his (Benson's), total crossover to pop. There is a harder Jazz/Funk energy on some of those Benson albums, but I guess ultimately it is all semantics, in that the Benson Jazz-Funk (Body Talk, Blue Benson etc) is still pointing the way towards the 'generic' Smooth Jazz styles we know now. I've even got a Verve Wynton Kelly album that is all 'arrangements' and no playing. Edited October 21, 2012 by freelancer Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted October 21, 2012 Report Posted October 21, 2012 Smooth Arthur Prysock? Ray Charles/Betty Carter? MG MG, I think SS1 means what's marketed as 'smooth jazz' but is really instrumental R'n'B with all rough edges shaved away and almost no relationship to blues at all. Rippingtons and their ilk. Most soul jazz could be characterised as instrumental R&B. MG But it has plenty of "B". Indeed it does. Its development paralleled that of R&B (most of the people who developed R&B were jazz musicians) and, when R&B went smooth, so did Soul Jazz. (George Benson knows why) MG I don't think GB's really responsible for the Smooth Jazz genre. He had so much energy in his playing they couldn't stifle it. I think it's the Verve Wes Montgomery sessions, and then even more so - his last A&M ones. The A&M ones really smooth it over. Even Grant Green's Easy - is more lush than the Benson albums, before his (Benson's), total crossover to pop. There is a harder Jazz/Funk energy on some of those Benson albums, but I guess ultimately it is all semantics, in that the Benson Jazz-Funk (Body Talk, Blue Benson etc) is still pointing the way towards the 'generic' Smooth Jazz styles we know now. I've even got a Verve Wynton Kelly album that is all 'arrangements' and no playing. Yeah, I've got that Wynto LP, too Benson was, I agree, behind Wes on smoothing jazz out. But I was referring to his vocals. MG Quote
robertoart Posted October 21, 2012 Report Posted October 21, 2012 Smooth Arthur Prysock? Ray Charles/Betty Carter? MG MG, I think SS1 means what's marketed as 'smooth jazz' but is really instrumental R'n'B with all rough edges shaved away and almost no relationship to blues at all. Rippingtons and their ilk. Most soul jazz could be characterised as instrumental R&B. MG But it has plenty of "B". Indeed it does. Its development paralleled that of R&B (most of the people who developed R&B were jazz musicians) and, when R&B went smooth, so did Soul Jazz. (George Benson knows why) MG I don't think GB's really responsible for the Smooth Jazz genre. He had so much energy in his playing they couldn't stifle it. I think it's the Verve Wes Montgomery sessions, and then even more so - his last A&M ones. The A&M ones really smooth it over. Even Grant Green's Easy - is more lush than the Benson albums, before his (Benson's), total crossover to pop. There is a harder Jazz/Funk energy on some of those Benson albums, but I guess ultimately it is all semantics, in that the Benson Jazz-Funk (Body Talk, Blue Benson etc) is still pointing the way towards the 'generic' Smooth Jazz styles we know now. I've even got a Verve Wynton Kelly album that is all 'arrangements' and no playing. Yeah, I've got that Wynto LP, too Benson was, I agree, behind Wes on smoothing jazz out. But I was referring to his vocals. MG Oh yeah. I see. His vocals definitely are smoooootttthhhh though. A beautiful voice. Quote
johnlitweiler Posted October 21, 2012 Report Posted October 21, 2012 Avant Garde being considered "cool" because it uses the word "avant". and / or "garde" Quote
JSngry Posted October 27, 2012 Author Report Posted October 27, 2012 People who always raise their eyebrows while talking. No matter what they're saying, it's a con eventually. Quote
David Ayers Posted October 27, 2012 Report Posted October 27, 2012 American people singing in English. More than two tubas. Comb. Yodelling. Quote
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