BillF Posted October 17, 2012 Report Posted October 17, 2012 On 10/17/2012 at 7:33 PM, A Lark Ascending said: On 10/17/2012 at 7:30 PM, king ubu said: On 10/17/2012 at 7:08 PM, A Lark Ascending said: People at jazz concerts (or any concert) who seem to need to let everyone know they are there by shouting, whooping or whistling. But that's probably my British stiff upper lip talking. On 10/17/2012 at 5:17 AM, brownie said: Non US vocalists trying to sound native! Non-English speaking vocalists singing in English (especially Brazilians). Sing in your own language. I like the mystery of being clueless about what you are saying. Even if they're making fun of all the stiff upper lips in the audience? Can't understand them so they can be singing about what they like. Actually, it tends to be worse when the translate lyrics from the native language into English! I'm sure Stacey Kent singing in French sounds awful to the French. They probably like it - after all, a previous generation liked Petula Clark singing in heavily-accented French. Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted October 17, 2012 Report Posted October 17, 2012 On 10/17/2012 at 7:46 PM, The Magnificent Goldberg said: On 10/17/2012 at 7:08 PM, A Lark Ascending said: People at jazz concerts (or any concert) who seem to need to let everyone know they are there by shouting, whooping or whistling. But that's probably my British stiff upper lip talking. No, it's because you've never seen Dr Lonnie Smith live, Bev MG Oh, I shout, whoop and whistle in the privacy of my own house (or car) to Lonnie Smith. But in public? Certainly not! Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted October 17, 2012 Report Posted October 17, 2012 On 10/17/2012 at 7:48 PM, BillF said: On 10/17/2012 at 7:33 PM, A Lark Ascending said: On 10/17/2012 at 7:30 PM, king ubu said: On 10/17/2012 at 7:08 PM, A Lark Ascending said: People at jazz concerts (or any concert) who seem to need to let everyone know they are there by shouting, whooping or whistling. But that's probably my British stiff upper lip talking. On 10/17/2012 at 5:17 AM, brownie said: Non US vocalists trying to sound native! Non-English speaking vocalists singing in English (especially Brazilians). Sing in your own language. I like the mystery of being clueless about what you are saying. Even if they're making fun of all the stiff upper lips in the audience? Can't understand them so they can be singing about what they like. Actually, it tends to be worse when the translate lyrics from the native language into English! I'm sure Stacey Kent singing in French sounds awful to the French. They probably like it - after all, a previous generation liked Petula Clark singing in heavily-accented French. Pet was chic! MG On 10/17/2012 at 7:50 PM, A Lark Ascending said: On 10/17/2012 at 7:46 PM, The Magnificent Goldberg said: On 10/17/2012 at 7:08 PM, A Lark Ascending said: People at jazz concerts (or any concert) who seem to need to let everyone know they are there by shouting, whooping or whistling. But that's probably my British stiff upper lip talking. No, it's because you've never seen Dr Lonnie Smith live, Bev MG Oh, I shout, whoop and whistle in the privacy of my own house (or car) to Lonnie Smith. But in public? Certainly not! Me too - that's the only time. MG Quote
Pete C Posted October 17, 2012 Report Posted October 17, 2012 On 10/17/2012 at 7:08 PM, A Lark Ascending said: Non-English speaking vocalists singing in English (especially Brazilians). Leny Andrade, Joyce, Caetano Veloso and Gilberto Gil, among others, are fluent in English. Joyce sings in English almost without an accent, having lived in NY for some time. Quote
Justin V Posted October 17, 2012 Report Posted October 17, 2012 On 10/17/2012 at 3:41 PM, Big Al said: Digipaks, especially the ones where the teeth are pre-broken. Even worse: The cardboard cases with the little foam dot, which pretty much guarantee that a new CD will be scuffed before you can listen to it. Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted October 17, 2012 Report Posted October 17, 2012 On 10/17/2012 at 7:55 PM, Pete C said: On 10/17/2012 at 7:08 PM, A Lark Ascending said: Non-English speaking vocalists singing in English (especially Brazilians). Leny Andrade, Joyce, Caetano Veloso and Gilberto Gil, among others, are fluent in English. Joyce sings in English almost without an accent, having lived in NY for some time. It's not the command of English that bothers me. Maybe it's because I find the sound of the Portuguese so mellifluous that I get disappointed by an English language track. All I'm saying is what I don't much like in my jazz; I'm sure others don't bat an eyelid, like I'm not offended by soprano saxophones. Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted October 17, 2012 Report Posted October 17, 2012 On 10/17/2012 at 7:55 PM, Pete C said: Joyce sings in English almost without an accent, having lived in NY for some time. Then she DOES sing with an accent MG Quote
Larry Kart Posted October 17, 2012 Report Posted October 17, 2012 On 10/17/2012 at 7:33 PM, A Lark Ascending said: On 10/17/2012 at 7:30 PM, king ubu said: On 10/17/2012 at 7:08 PM, A Lark Ascending said: People at jazz concerts (or any concert) who seem to need to let everyone know they are there by shouting, whooping or whistling. But that's probably my British stiff upper lip talking. On 10/17/2012 at 5:17 AM, brownie said: Non US vocalists trying to sound native! Non-English speaking vocalists singing in English (especially Brazilians). Sing in your own language. I like the mystery of being clueless about what you are saying. Even if they're making fun of all the stiff upper lips in the audience? Can't understand them so they can be singing about what they like. Actually, it tends to be worse when the translate lyrics from the native language into English! I'm sure Stacey Kent singing in French sounds awful to the French. I love the late Ann Burton's accented English. Quote
BeBop Posted October 17, 2012 Report Posted October 17, 2012 (edited) Fake stereo and dubbed audience sounds. "Tom"-ing. Straw Hats. Edited October 17, 2012 by BeBop Quote
Pete C Posted October 17, 2012 Report Posted October 17, 2012 On 10/17/2012 at 8:43 PM, BeBop said: Fake stereo and dubbed audience sounds. I love how Mingus addresses the nonexistent audience on Mingus Presents on Candid. Quote
Noj Posted October 17, 2012 Report Posted October 17, 2012 Performances devoid of rhythm and/or melody, and pretty much any music which is so "high brow" as to subtract/shy too far away from its most accessible/most instantly-pleasing elements. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted October 17, 2012 Report Posted October 17, 2012 On 10/17/2012 at 10:11 PM, rostasi said: Those damn maraschino cherries. Why on earth would anyone be impressed by "centering"? Quote
mikeweil Posted October 17, 2012 Report Posted October 17, 2012 On 10/16/2012 at 3:44 PM, jlhoots said: On 10/16/2012 at 3:02 PM, John Tapscott said: Fade-outs. you beat me to it. ... and me. Quote
BeBop Posted October 17, 2012 Report Posted October 17, 2012 Insufficient schwing. Excessive skronk. Quote
Dave James Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 On 10/17/2012 at 8:40 PM, Larry Kart said: I love the late Ann Burton's accented English. Accented English or not, I just love Ann Burton. Quote
robertoart Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 On 10/17/2012 at 6:21 PM, WD45 said: Toy instruments. Or any toys, for that matter. But the toy instruments subvert the elitism of Jazz. And help break down the barrier between the musicians and the audience Quote
fent99 Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 On 10/16/2012 at 11:48 PM, Chuck Nessa said: I can accept anything used in a creative way. Still waiting on a number of things. I'm pretty much agreed with this but can be really happy with things used in a less than creative way. Its good there are still things to be waited for too. There are times when I think I've heard everything I need to, then along comes something I've never heard and I'm off on a new search On 10/18/2012 at 12:30 PM, freelancer said: On 10/17/2012 at 6:21 PM, WD45 said: Toy instruments. Or any toys, for that matter. But the toy instruments subvert the elitism of Jazz. And help break down the barrier between the musicians and the audience I love melodica. Does that count? Quote
crisp Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 On 10/17/2012 at 7:33 PM, A Lark Ascending said: I'm sure Stacey Kent singing in French sounds awful to the French. She sounds awful to me and I'm not even French. Quote
danasgoodstuff Posted October 18, 2012 Report Posted October 18, 2012 On 10/18/2012 at 12:30 PM, freelancer said: On 10/17/2012 at 6:21 PM, WD45 said: Toy instruments. Or any toys, for that matter. But the toy instruments subvert the elitism of Jazz. And help break down the barrier between the musicians and the audience I must be very non-elitist, because the're all more or less toys when I play them... Quote
kinuta Posted October 19, 2012 Report Posted October 19, 2012 Japanese people singing in English , harps and accordions. Quote
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