how much music do you have stored on hard drives

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Organization, for me, is all in iTunes. It's what makes it great (but it seriously needs an upgrade).

I store liner notes and disc pictures in with the cover art in many cases...and there's plenty of info online.

The genres are a bit overstated - I'm guessing closer to 1400 - but it's the only info area that I haven't

diligently kept up with. I use software to check for duplicates, title inconsistencies, orphaned and

missing tracks, but sifting thru genres takes another bit of software that I haven't used much lately,

so I guess this can be a reminder. These titles/CDs in Mandinke make me want to search CDDB to see

if they're there to be had. If so, iTunes might solve that problem too. It's the rare title that doesn't show up there -

even the most obscure thing. The only time a problem comes up is when the title is both obscure and/or

experimental and very new - like only a few days old - and it doesn't come up in the database.

I'm not sure what CDDB is but, when I imported the CD into iTunes, all the tracks came up as per the sleeve of the CD. It wasn't wrong from the point of view of what was on the CD sleeve; it was the sleeve note that was different to what was on the disc. Another of the five from my recent batch that I've imported so far had the correct titles on the sleeve, but what came up in iTunes was different. I know you have lots of African recordings and I'm sure you appreciate that accuracy is the least of the concerns of the record companies in the African recording industry (well, the African indies, anyway, which represents almost all of what I buy - as in jazz, I buy hardly anything on major labels).

I'm just about to import two CDs by UCAS Band de Sedhiou - 'Takussaanou Ndakarou' vols 1 & 2 and find that there's nothing at all coming up on iTunes; just track number and timing - but it said it was accessing Gracenote database. Obviously this isn't CDDB. How do I get iTunes to access CDDB (and maybe give me a better chance of getting correct information)?

What software do you use to check for duplicates, title inconsistencies, orphaned or missing tracks? Can it check for artist inconsistencies? Does it recognise an inconsistency between 'latin' and 'Latin' (because iPods think they're different genres)?

MG

PS I see from Wiki that Gracenote is the new name of CDDB, so I'm not going to get any better info out of it.

[David Ayers]

About 200GB, much of it backed-up CDs. I rarely download now I've converted to streaming. It's either CD or streaming these days, I've (mostly) cut out the mp3 middleman. Like MG I find organizing it incredibly tedious. I lost it all once and painstakingly reconstructed it from the backup - I wondered why I had bothered then and I don't think I would bother now.

[John L]

Organization, for me, is all in iTunes. It's what makes it great (but it seriously needs an upgrade).

I store liner notes and disc pictures in with the cover art in many cases...and there's plenty of info online.

The genres are a bit overstated - I'm guessing closer to 1400 - but it's the only info area that I haven't

diligently kept up with. I use software to check for duplicates, title inconsistencies, orphaned and

missing tracks, but sifting thru genres takes another bit of software that I haven't used much lately,

so I guess this can be a reminder. These titles/CDs in Mandinke make me want to search CDDB to see

if they're there to be had. If so, iTunes might solve that problem too. It's the rare title that doesn't show up there -

even the most obscure thing. The only time a problem comes up is when the title is both obscure and/or

experimental and very new - like only a few days old - and it doesn't come up in the database.

I'm not sure what CDDB is but, when I imported the CD into iTunes, all the tracks came up as per the sleeve of the CD. It wasn't wrong from the point of view of what was on the CD sleeve; it was the sleeve note that was different to what was on the disc. Another of the five from my recent batch that I've imported so far had the correct titles on the sleeve, but what came up in iTunes was different. I know you have lots of African recordings and I'm sure you appreciareate that accuracy is the least of the concerns of the record companies in the African recording industry (well, the African indies, anyway, which represents almost all of what I buy - as in jazz, I buy hardly anything on major labels).

I'm just about to import two CDs by UCAS Band de Sedhiou - 'Takussaanou Ndakarou' vols 1 & 2 and find that there's nothing at all coming up on iTunes; just track number and timing - but it said it was accessing Gracenote database. Obviously this isn't CDDB. How do I get iTunes to access CDDB (and maybe give me a better chance of getting correct information)?

What software do you use to check for duplicates, title inconsistencies, orphaned or missing tracks? Can it check for artist inconsistencies? Does it recognise an inconsistency between 'latin' and 'Latin' (because iPods think they're different genres)?

MG

PS I see from Wiki that Gracenote is the new name of CDDB, so I'm not going to get any better info out of it.

MG -

Gracenote and CDDB are the same thing. They have always been. I think that Gracenote may be the company that runs CDDB. The database is very useful, but is indeed incomplete and contains errors of various sort. The errors can be corrected mannually in iTunes (Use the "Get Info" function to edit single or multiple tracks)). In cases where you don't know the correct information, you will have to search for it.

Edited October 12, 2012 by John L

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Organization, for me, is all in iTunes. It's what makes it great (but it seriously needs an upgrade).

I store liner notes and disc pictures in with the cover art in many cases...and there's plenty of info online.

The genres are a bit overstated - I'm guessing closer to 1400 - but it's the only info area that I haven't

diligently kept up with. I use software to check for duplicates, title inconsistencies, orphaned and

missing tracks, but sifting thru genres takes another bit of software that I haven't used much lately,

so I guess this can be a reminder. These titles/CDs in Mandinke make me want to search CDDB to see

if they're there to be had. If so, iTunes might solve that problem too. It's the rare title that doesn't show up there -

even the most obscure thing. The only time a problem comes up is when the title is both obscure and/or

experimental and very new - like only a few days old - and it doesn't come up in the database.

I'm not sure what CDDB is but, when I imported the CD into iTunes, all the tracks came up as per the sleeve of the CD. It wasn't wrong from the point of view of what was on the CD sleeve; it was the sleeve note that was different to what was on the disc. Another of the five from my recent batch that I've imported so far had the correct titles on the sleeve, but what came up in iTunes was different. I know you have lots of African recordings and I'm sure you appreciareate that accuracy is the least of the concerns of the record companies in the African recording industry (well, the African indies, anyway, which represents almost all of what I buy - as in jazz, I buy hardly anything on major labels).

I'm just about to import two CDs by UCAS Band de Sedhiou - 'Takussaanou Ndakarou' vols 1 & 2 and find that there's nothing at all coming up on iTunes; just track number and timing - but it said it was accessing Gracenote database. Obviously this isn't CDDB. How do I get iTunes to access CDDB (and maybe give me a better chance of getting correct information)?

What software do you use to check for duplicates, title inconsistencies, orphaned or missing tracks? Can it check for artist inconsistencies? Does it recognise an inconsistency between 'latin' and 'Latin' (because iPods think they're different genres)?

MG

PS I see from Wiki that Gracenote is the new name of CDDB, so I'm not going to get any better info out of it.

MG -

Gracenote and CDDB are the same thing. They have always been. I think that Gracenote may be the company that runs CDDB. The database is very useful, but is indeed incomplete and contains errors of various sort. The errors can be corrected mannually in iTunes (Use the "Get Info" function to edit single or multiple tracks)). In cases where you don't know the correct information, you will have to search for it.

Yes, I know how to do all that, thanks. It may well be that a lot of the music I buy is more error-prone than stuff other people get. I've ripped 6 CDs to my hard drive this afternoon and 3 of them weren't on the database at all; errors on all the others. So doing this is a slog, not a breeze.

MG

[mjzee]

MG: Wait till you start ripping your cassettes to mp3! Kiss a good part of your life goodbye...

[rostasi]

Yes, I know how to do all that, thanks. It may well be that a lot of the music I buy is more error-prone than stuff other people get. I've ripped 6 CDs to my hard drive this afternoon and 3 of them weren't on the database at all; errors on all the others. So doing this is a slog, not a breeze.

OK, look...this is like wondering why you can't find anything like the Hope Diamond at your local jewelry store - even if it is Graff Diamonds.

You have some rare or limited things that aren't going to show up, so, apparently, you're gonna have to fill in the info.

When you take the title Takussaanou Ndakarou and it doesn't even show up in Google(!) -

except for 4 cases of a variation on that, then you know that you've got something rather limited

and off-the-radar. Rare kalindula or exotic radif and tasnifs? - some of these will be hard to find

(but not all because I usually have good luck with them). Zani Diabate's Tientalaw, on the other hand? - no prob.

Here's the website for Song Sergeant which is the main one that I use for big jobs.

Yes, it checks for artist variations - giving you what it thinks should be correct, but you can change this if you don't agree

(Imagine the different ways that, for instance, Booker T. & the M.G.'s, might be shown in your library).

"latin" and "Latin" are different if you're an exacting piece of software which is very helpful in most instances.

I have another, even more detailed piece of software for things like "genre" and "BPM" a.o.,

but I can't remember its name at the moment and I need to check with this soon anyway.

When I come across it during a spot of time, I'll let you know.

Also, I wanted to mention that sometimes I pick up Ethiopian and Eritrean discs in small shops

during my travels and about 40% of them don't show up in the database either, so...

Edited October 12, 2012 by rostasi

[John L]

The biggest headache on the CDDB is classical music, especially opera. The information given is usually either worthless or in the wrong place.

[rostasi]

The biggest headache on the CDDB is classical music, especially opera. The information given is usually either worthless or in the wrong place.

Agree! Performers are in the place where I think the composer's name should be

instead of the "album artist" area. Amazon does this too.

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

Yes, I know how to do all that, thanks. It may well be that a lot of the music I buy is more error-prone than stuff other people get. I've ripped 6 CDs to my hard drive this afternoon and 3 of them weren't on the database at all; errors on all the others. So doing this is a slog, not a breeze.

OK, look...this is like wondering why you can't find anything like the Hope Diamond at your local jewelry store - even if it is Graff Diamonds.

You have some rare or limited things that aren't going to show up, so, apparently, you're gonna have to fill in the info.

When you take the title Takussaanou Ndakarou and it doesn't even show up in Google(!) -

except for 4 cases of a variation on that, then you know that you've got something rather limited

and off-the-radar. Rare kalindula or exotic radif and tasnifs? - some of these will be hard to find

(but not all because I usually have good luck with them). Zani Diabate's Tientalaw, on the other hand? - no prob.

Here's the website for Song Sergeant which is the main one that I use for big jobs.

Yes, it checks for artist variations - giving you what it thinks should be correct, but you can change this if you don't agree

(Imagine the different ways that, for instance, Booker T. & the M.G.'s, might be shown in your library).

"latin" and "Latin" are different if you're an exacting piece of software which is very helpful in most instances.

I have another, even more detailed piece of software for things like "genre" and "BPM" a.o.,

but I can't remember its name at the moment and I need to check with this soon anyway.

When I come across it during a spot of time, I'll let you know.

Also, I wanted to mention that sometimes I pick up Ethiopian and Eritrean discs in small shops

during my travels and about 40% of them don't show up in the database either, so...

I'm not, of course, complaining that I've got all this stuff that's off the radar; it's stuff I want and love listening to. But ripping a lot of it to my hard drive takes a lot of time. I know I need to do it, because when they wheel me into the old folks home and I expect them to accommodate all my LPs, K7s and CDs, I can easily imagine the answer I'll get. Trouble is, there are other things I want to do with my life than spend all day correcting errors and typing in info; and I still feel like I'm 18; it'll never happen to me.

Song Sergeant looks pretty good, but I note that it's for an Apple; I have a pair - of PCs

MG

[Bright Moments]

so everything i am reading here is that music on the harddrive is harder to organize, harder to access and there is nowhere to store or access the liner notes. Plus no space is saved since you are saving the cd's anyway for back-up.

guess i'll stick with my cd's.

[rostasi]

so everything i am reading here is that music on the harddrive is harder to organize, harder to access and there is nowhere to store or access the liner notes. Plus no space is saved since you are saving the cd's anyway for back-up.

guess i'll stick with my cd's.

You must have me on "ignore."

[mjzee]

so everything i am reading here is that music on the harddrive is harder to organize, harder to access and there is nowhere to store or access the liner notes. Plus no space is saved since you are saving the cd's anyway for back-up.

guess i'll stick with my cd's.

I've found that the music is much easier to organize (because of the search function) and easier to access (easier than maintaining filing of CD's and looking for a particular one, or looking for disc 13 of a boxed set). You can scan the liner notes and maintain that image with the album in iTunes, or use Google Images (where more and more of these liner notes can be found). Much space can be saved because you can now box up the CD's and keep them in storage. That's my experience, anyway.

[Bright Moments]

Yes, I know how to do all that, thanks. It may well be that a lot of the music I buy is more error-prone than stuff other people get. I've ripped 6 CDs to my hard drive this afternoon and 3 of them weren't on the database at all; errors on all the others. So doing this is a slog, not a breeze.

OK, look...this is like wondering why you can't find anything like the Hope Diamond at your local jewelry store - even if it is Graff Diamonds.

You have some rare or limited things that aren't going to show up, so, apparently, you're gonna have to fill in the info.

When you take the title Takussaanou Ndakarou and it doesn't even show up in Google(!) -

except for 4 cases of a variation on that, then you know that you've got something rather limited

and off-the-radar. Rare kalindula or exotic radif and tasnifs? - some of these will be hard to find

(but not all because I usually have good luck with them). Zani Diabate's Tientalaw, on the other hand? - no prob.

Here's the website for Song Sergeant which is the main one that I use for big jobs.

Yes, it checks for artist variations - giving you what it thinks should be correct, but you can change this if you don't agree

(Imagine the different ways that, for instance, Booker T. & the M.G.'s, might be shown in your library).

"latin" and "Latin" are different if you're an exacting piece of software which is very helpful in most instances.

I have another, even more detailed piece of software for things like "genre" and "BPM" a.o.,

but I can't remember its name at the moment and I need to check with this soon anyway.

When I come across it during a spot of time, I'll let you know.

Also, I wanted to mention that sometimes I pick up Ethiopian and Eritrean discs in small shops

during my travels and about 40% of them don't show up in the database either, so...

i would never ignore you Rod!

[rostasi]

i would never ignore you Rod!

Oh, OK!

I was more referring to what I said earlier about stuff being easy to

organize, access, and store. mjzee is right in his post.

Here's an example of liner note storage for a couple of different Mosaic sets.

...and when I want to access them, I just drag the notes to my desktop

and they open up large (ca. 3000-4000 pixels) for easy reading

(I've reduced the picture of Roy Eldridge for this post):