william shatner loses it

[alocispepraluger102]

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[JSngry]

Shatner's losing nothing, he's GOT this!

That director, otoh, is a damn idiot.

[alocispepraluger102]

this reminds so much of nonathlete sports talkers criticizing athletes.

[Jim R]

Shatner's losing nothing, he's GOT this!

That director, otoh, is a damn idiot.

+1. Not exactly a Mel Gibson or Christian Bale style of "losing it", and kind of a misleading thread title. Glad I listened, though... that was pretty funny. Shatner worked that guy the way he deserved to be worked.

[alocispepraluger102]

Shatner's losing nothing, he's GOT this!

That director, otoh, is a damn idiot.

+1. Not exactly a Mel Gibson or Christian Bale style of "losing it", and kind of a misleading thread title. Glad I listened, though... that was pretty funny. Shatner worked that guy the way he deserved to be worked.

i took the inaptly named title from the video heading.

[Dan Gould]

As a professional voice talent, let me offer the following observations:

Shatner is really flat and bored/boring on the first take. The director is correct in his assessment and direction.

Shatner hardly changes his delivery at all in the second take, then decides to fuck with the guy and that's fine, he's William Shatner, and it turns out he's a somewhat gifted mimic.

But if I was on that gig, not "William Shatner" I'd risk never getting another call from the producer if I can't improve my delivery as directed on the next take.

Yet another reason why its good to be William Shatner, bad wig and all.

[Noj]

Awkward! I think Shatner proved his point.

[rostasi]

Yeah, I'm with Dan on this.

I did radio work from '74 to '87

and if I had done the first take

as lackluster as Shatner, I would've

been asked to liven it up some...

and if I had mouthed off in the studio,

I probably would've been tossed out.

The guy wasn't asking for something unreasonable.

Kinda reminds me of the famous Orson Welles radio bit.

Alas, Shatner taking advantage of his notoriety.

Still, it's funny...in its Shatnerian way.

Rod

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[Noj]

As a professional voice talent, let me offer the following observations:

Shatner is really flat and bored/boring on the first take. The director is correct in his assessment and direction.

Shatner hardly changes his delivery at all in the second take, then decides to fuck with the guy and that's fine, he's William Shatner, and it turns out he's a somewhat gifted mimic.

But if I was on that gig, not "William Shatner" I'd risk never getting another call from the producer if I can't improve my delivery as directed on the next take.

Yet another reason why its good to be William Shatner, bad wig and all.

I wondered if you'd weigh in here, Dan. I started my comment then got distracted for a bit, and now it looks lame in the wake of your informed perspective.

[Free For All]

Kinda reminds me of the famous Orson Welles radio bit.

Bassist Jay Anderson did a record and called one of the tunes "IN July".

[Dan Gould]

Kinda reminds me of the famous Orson Welles radio bit.

Now that's a classic, I imagine I could find it somewhere but basically Welles was asked to deliver the line "In July" as "IN July," (as opposed to "In JULY,")and Welles really flips out because its totally unnatural to emphasize "in" in that sentence.

In his case he wasn't going to suffer a fool. Shatner is just having fun with a guy who doesn't have the stones to stand up to him. Or, instead of giving him the delivery he wanted, change the direction if its not getting the response, like saying "bigger smile" will get you into "more excitement". Shatner sounds like he's smiling only when the tape isn't running.

Edited October 6, 2012 by Dan Gould

[Free For All]

Kinda reminds me of the famous Orson Welles radio bit.

Now that's a classic, I imagine I could find it somewhere but basically Welles was asked to deliver the line "In July" as "IN July," (as opposed to "In JULY,")and Welles really flips out because its totally unnatural to emphasize "in" in that sentence.

IN July

[BruceH]

As a professional voice talent, let me offer the following observations:

Shatner is really flat and bored/boring on the first take. The director is correct in his assessment and direction.

Shatner hardly changes his delivery at all in the second take, then decides to fuck with the guy and that's fine, he's William Shatner, and it turns out he's a somewhat gifted mimic.

But if I was on that gig, not "William Shatner" I'd risk never getting another call from the producer if I can't improve my delivery as directed on the next take.

Yet another reason why its good to be William Shatner, bad wig and all.

And why, if you're William Shatner, you not only don't have to be nice to people, but don't have to have any talent, or put in any effort.

Edited October 6, 2012 by BruceH

[JSngry]

The lesson here is simple - don't try to direct somebody who knows their craft if you don't know how to direct somebody who knows their craft .

[Dan Gould]

No the lesson here is that Shatner doesn't know his craft, he is trading on his name and the familiarity of his voice. His read sucked and he refused to follow a simple direction anyone who has been in a booth understands, then he mocked the director.

[BERIGAN]

[JSngry]

No the lesson here is that Shatner doesn't know his craft, he is trading on his name and the familiarity of his voice. His read sucked and he refused to follow a simple direction anyone who has been in a booth understands, then he mocked the director.

His craft is not acting/line-reading/etc. His craft is simply Being William Shatner.

Don't ask me how or why it works, but it does.

[ValerieB]

No the lesson here is that Shatner doesn't know his craft, he is trading on his name and the familiarity of his voice. His read sucked and he refused to follow a simple direction anyone who has been in a booth understands, then he mocked the director.

you are absolutely correct, Dan. Shatner has a reputation and has had it for many years of being a p - - - k!!!! he is so full of himself. not a nice person at all. his readings were terrible!! and he had to know it.

[Jim R]

I can see both sides of the argument, mainly because I don't care who's correct here. If this is the biggest debate topic going on here today, then life must be pretty good.

[fasstrack]

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

'DENNY CRANE!!!'

[BruceH]

No the lesson here is that Shatner doesn't know his craft, he is trading on his name and the familiarity of his voice. His read sucked and he refused to follow a simple direction anyone who has been in a booth understands, then he mocked the director.

His craft is not acting/line-reading/etc. His craft is simply Being William Shatner.

Don't ask me how or why it works, but it does.

Yeah. He's famous enough that he doesn't have to possess an ounce of talent. Not someone you'd want to work with.

[Dave James]

I love the guy. I don't care if he's a jerk. Considering how little actual talent he has, he's done quite well. You've got to give him at least some credit for that.

[Christiern]

Shatner, morphing from Kirk to his present persona, reinvented himself masterfully and I will always admire him for that.

[fasstrack]

That's funny, Valerie. It reminds me of a story they tell about when Sam Giancana met Jimmy Roselli. 'Jimmy Roselll! I heard you was a prick. The way you sing you got the right to be a prick'... And did I mention....DENNY CRANE!!!

[Teasing the Korean]

I'm totally with Shatner on this one. And he's not getting paid to be top notch voice-over talent: He's getting paid to be William F*cking Shatner.

Edited October 8, 2012 by Teasing the Korean