Miles Davis On The Air (1958-1960)

[RiRiIII]

United Archives, that had issued the first volume of live Miles Davis some years ago, makes available the 2nd volume (2 discs) for 12 Euro.

[RiRiIII]

United Archives, that had issued the first volume of live Miles Davis some years ago, makes available the 2nd volume (2 discs) for 12 Euro.

I correct myself. The set I posted above is actually the 3rd volume covering 1958-60!

Alex

Edited September 3, 2012 by Larry Kart

[brownie]

Another interesting set from United Archives.

It includes a couple of broadcasts I have not heard (the August 1959 items from Chicago and Birdland).

The €12,20 list price from Amazon.fr is a no-brainer...

[Larry Kart]

Forum rules state that no links are allowed to unauthorized issues. Thus the links in the above post have been deleted.

[bertrand]

I posted my general views on this on the other thread, but let's apply my thoughts to this particular case: how does one know that the release being discussed is unauthorized? I strongly suspect it is, but how would I know for sure? What if the person behind this label was a truly dedicated person who did years and years of leg work dealing with the Miles estate, got all the t's crossed and i's dotted, and then finds out that everyone thinks he's a bootlegger? Of course, the bootleggers are to blame for creating this paradigm that every release from an unknown label is a boot unless proven othewise, but it's really a sad situation.

I know there are telltale signs like 'made in Spain' and such, but still, how does one really know?

Bertrand.

Edit: changed 'maid in Spain' to 'made in Spain'. I must have had the 'Maids of Cadiz' on my brain.

Edited September 3, 2012 by bertrand

[jazzbo]

[JSngry]

[king ubu]

Maids of Spain are fine with me ... the first box had plenty of omissions, but it's nevertheless a nice way to have lots of this music grouped in one place. Will look for this one, too!

Just to be clear: first, second box ... and then the expanded version comprising both on 13 discs?

The new should contain these (info compiled from Losin):

Café Bohemia, New York NY

Mutual Network radio broadcasts (B)

May 3, 1958 (4 items; TT = 11:11)

Miles Davis (tpt); John Coltrane (ts); William "Red" Garland (p); Paul Chambers (b); Philly Joe Jones (d); Guy Wallace (ann)

1 Band warming up 0:04

2 Woody 'n' You (D. Gillespie) 2:47

3 In Your Own Sweet Way (D. Brubeck) 3:49

4 A Night in Tunisia (incomplete) (D. Gillespie-F. Paparelli) 4:31

May 17, 1958 (5 items; TT = 19:54)

same, Bill Evans (p) for Garland

1 Introduction (Guy Wallace) 0:13

2 Four (M. Davis) 4:48

3 Bye Bye Blackbird (R. Henderson-M. Dixon) 6:49

4 Walkin' (R. Carpenter) 6:28

5 Two Bass Hit (J. Lewis-D. Gillespie) 1:36

Spotlite Lounge, Washington DC

Mutual Network radio broadcasts (C+)

August 9, 1958 (3 items; TT = 18:37)

Miles Davis (tpt); Julian "Cannonball" Adderley (as); John Coltrane (ts); Bill Evans (p); Paul Chambers (b); Jimmy Cobb (d)

1 Walkin' (R. Carpenter) 6:41

2 All of You (C. Porter) 6:46

3 'Round Midnight (B. Hanighen-C. Williams-T. Monk) 5:10

November 1, 1958 (6 items; TT = 19:19)

same, Red Garland (p) for Evans; Steve Hamber (ann); Guy Wallace (ann)

1 Introduction 0:05

2 Sid's Ahead [Weirdo] (M. Davis) 8:32

3 Introduction 0:31

4 Bye Bye Blackbird (R. Henderson-M. Dixon) 6:19

5 Introduction 0:24

6 Straight, No Chaser (incomplete) (T. Monk) 3:28

Birdland, New York NY

Mutual Network radio broadcast (B)

January 3, 1959 (3 items; TT = 19:41)

same, Wynton Kelly (p) for Garland; Guy Wallace (ann)

1 Introduction (Guy Wallace) 0:10

2 Bags' Groove (M. Jackson) 14:13

3 All of You (incomplete) (C. Porter) 5:18

Chicago Stadium, Chicago IL

AFRS radio broadcast (C+)

August 7, 1959 (2 items; TT = 12:41)

Miles Davis (tpt); Julian "Cannonball" Adderley (as); Wynton Kelly (p); Paul Chambers (b); Jimmy Cobb (d)

1 Introduction 1:07

2 So What (M. Davis) 11:34

Birdland, New York NY

AFRS radio broadcast (B)

August 25, 1959 (4 items; TT = 22:01)

same, add John Coltrane (ts); Ray Barrett (ann)

1 The Theme (with voiceover) (M. Davis) 0:43

2 Announcement 0:523 So What (M. Davis) 12:05

4 The Theme (incomplete) (M. Davis) 8:21

It might, on top of that, also contain the TV show again:

http://www.plosin.com/milesAhead/Sessions.aspx?s=590402

Not sure what 1960 means, but likely some stuff from Europe will be included?

Paris - March 21 - (semi?) officially released on RTE/Trema

Stockholm - March 22 - officially released on Dragon

Copenhagen - March 24 - plentily booted

Düsseldorf - March 28 - TV filming studio gig without Miles, (semi?) officially on WDR Jazzline (under Coltrane's name)

Frankfurt - March 30 - booted

Munich - April 3 - booted

Zürich - April 8 - booted (I think) by Storyville

Scheveningen - April 9 - booted aplenty (one track officially in the big useless KoB box)

Then, still 1960, the fall tour with Sonny Stitt:

Manchester - September 27

Paris - October 11

Stockholm - October 13

Paris and Stockholm are also out on Trema and Dragon, respectively, Manchester has been released by the Spanish.

Not sure what this new box will contain, it would be huge if it were complete.

And as all these boots, it will be marred by wrong speed/pitch issues abound, I'm afraid.

[JETman]

1960 in thread title is an error. Cover says 1958-59.

[king ubu]

1960 in thread title is an error. Cover says 1958-59.

Then what does it include that makes it extend to more than two discs?

Uhm, I just see the cover - it IS just two discs...

http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/images/B008C1IBYG/ref=dp_otherviews_z_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&img=1

(w/zoom on the back cover)

But where's the May 3, 1958 date?

Has that been officially released (which still wouldn't stop these fellows to include it, I think).

Do they miss that one because (amazingly, at least as far as Losin goes) it hasn't been bootlegged yet?

[JETman]

Including 1960 would make it like a 16 cd set. They're probably planning a set which only covers that year somewhere down the road.

And yes, Box 1 = 10 discs, Box 2 = 4 discs. They combined the two to come up with the 13 disc set, probably by being able to use the empty space on the discs more efficiently.

[king ubu]

Thanks!

A 1960 set makes little sense to me, but then what do I know ... they'd have to learn and include stuff that's so far been beyond the scope of bootleggers.

The omission of the earliest 1958 date still seems odd, as there'd be more than enough space on disc one!

(edited for crappy typing)

Edited September 4, 2012 by king ubu

[Moko]

I was wondering what the sound quality is like on these CD's, is it up to the official Columbia stuff like Carnegie Hall, Miles In Berlin etc?

I guess different dates will vary but in general is this something a fairly interested fan would like, or is it a listen to it once only for completists job?

[jazzbo]

They're sourced (my best guess) from other bootleg cds, and as such the sound varies. They don't sound as good as the commercial, official recordings imo. But they're not HORRIBLE. I've listened to these many times over the years. Admittedly I may be less fussy than some. . . .

[mjzee]

eMusic just listed two releases on the Lantower label (yeah, I know...), of Miles at the Olympia 1960: volume 1 is March 21, volume 2 is October 11. Sound quality is good on both.

[romualdo]

Just cross-checked the tracks with what I have

It's all on the 2 Miles RLR CDs (SQ not too bad)

1. Radio Broadcasts 58-59

2. Unissued At Birdland 52-59

plus the Herridge live CBS Studio recordings are on the DVD (film footage) that came with the 50th anniversary KOB release

So What from this session is also on the Lonehill CD "MD Live In Den Haag"

[Clunky]

I was trying to weed out some duplicates from my collection. I thought that my LP copy of "Miles Davis All Stars feat. John Coltrane with Cannonball Adderley (Jazz Band) was totally redundant with this 2CD set. The LP gives the wrong dates and an incorrect title. More note worthy is that the pitch of the Jan. 3rd 1959 date is slightly higher on the Jazz Band LP. Anyone know if this is correct or the united archives CDs? It's hard to make judgements re sound quality of the transfers given the different pitches.