BillF Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 The perfect accompaniment to reading the novels! Quote
medjuck Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 I saw this in New York, then read the play. Â They left out one line near the end: the one where someone talks abut cutting off the heads of the colonialists. I loved this play but I feel that way about pretty well all Stoppard. (I think Travesties is my favorite.) Quote
Larry Kart Posted April 16, 2016 Report Posted April 16, 2016 http://www.amazon.com/The-Patton-Papers-Martin-Blumenson/dp/0306807173/ref=pd_sim_sbs_14_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=514X8r1LJDL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL320_SR200%2C320_&refRID=0K65CR979N5YW452VFY8  Absolutely fascinating self-portrait (letter, diaries, etc.) of a grandiose military genius cum semi-psychopath. Fascinating too because it's all contemporaneous -- one knows what's going to happen next/how things are going to turn out in the near and long run, but Patton as he's writing of course does not. Some very harsh judgments of Eisenhower, Mark Clark, Montgomery, etc. Patton's bits and pieces of anti-Semitism at first seem to be of his time and place, but in Bavaria right after the war it's much more than that. Jewish DPs are "vermin," and he says that we should have left it to the Germans to finish them off. Quote
ejp626 Posted April 17, 2016 Report Posted April 17, 2016 3 hours ago, medjuck said: I saw this in New York, then read the play.  They left out one line near the end: the one where someone talks abut cutting off the heads of the colonialists. I loved this play but I feel that way about pretty well all Stoppard. (I think Travesties is my favorite.) I haven't seen this one, though I've seen a lot of Stoppard. I actually traveled to Montreal to catch Travesties, which I enjoyed greatly. For me, my favorite is Arcadia, which is a simply incredible play. Just starting Keane's Queen Lear. The opening scene is this young girl running all around her parents' estate, checking up on what all the servants are doing. It kind of reminds me a bit of Peake's Gormenghast actually. Quote
medjuck Posted April 17, 2016 Report Posted April 17, 2016 5 hours ago, ejp626 said: I haven't seen this one, though I've seen a lot of Stoppard. I actually traveled to Montreal to catch Travesties, which I enjoyed greatly. For me, my favorite is Arcadia, which is a simply incredible play. Just starting Keane's Queen Lear. The opening scene is this young girl running all around her parents' estate, checking up on what all the servants are doing. It kind of reminds me a bit of Peake's Gormenghast actually. I forgot about Arcadia. Yes  It is a wonderful play.   Quote
Jazzmoose Posted April 17, 2016 Report Posted April 17, 2016 After reading the Faulkner stuff earlier, I had to pull The Sound and the Fury off the shelf one more time, mainly to see if I could figure out the second section a bit better. (First section I've read too much-it was too fun to ignore. The third is pointless; I'd just put it down and grab The Hamlet instead. The fourth section tells me that Faulkner had too much power in the writer-editor relationship. It's like having a Disney ending tacked onto Citizen Kane.) Quote
paul secor Posted April 17, 2016 Report Posted April 17, 2016 5 hours ago, medjuck said: I forgot about Arcadia. Yes  It is a wonderful play.   I've read a number of Stoppard's plays and enjoyed reading them, but I know that I miss subtleties (and sometimes more than that) by not seeing them performed. Quote
Leeway Posted April 19, 2016 Report Posted April 19, 2016 THE SMALL HOUSE AT ALLINGTON -1864- Anthony Trollope I finally wrestled this baggy  monster into submission. Trollope can be frustrating. In a few pages he can shift from brilliant social scenes to trite and mawkish page-filler. That might be the problem when one write a certain number of words each day; some are bound to be bad. Apparently others esteem the book more highly; John Major cited it as his favorite novel. Anyway, it's the 5th volume in the Barsetshire Chronicles. I have one more to go to complete the series. Quote
BillF Posted April 19, 2016 Report Posted April 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Leeway said: THE SMALL HOUSE AT ALLINGTON -1864- Anthony Trollope Apparently others esteem the book more highly; John Major cited it as his favorite novel. I wouldn't cite John Major as my favourite politician. Quote
Larry Kart Posted April 19, 2016 Report Posted April 19, 2016 4 hours ago, Leeway said: THE SMALL HOUSE AT ALLINGTON -1864- Anthony Trollope I finally wrestled this baggy  monster into submission. Trollope can be frustrating. In a few pages he can shift from brilliant social scenes to trite and mawkish page-filler. That might be the problem when one write a certain number of words each day; some are bound to be bad. Apparently others esteem the book more highly; John Major cited it as his favorite novel. Anyway, it's the 5th volume in the Barsetshire Chronicles. I have one more to go to complete the series. "The Last Chronicle of Barset" is a killer, in the best sense. Mrs. Proudie! Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted April 20, 2016 Report Posted April 20, 2016 (edited) Have four on the go at present... The Jens Malte Fischer bio of Mahler mentioned previously which is excellent. Just got him to Leipzig. My, he was a right prig as a young man. This is suberb. Much of my formal study of history and then early teaching was in the 17th and 18thC so the Reformation was integral as background and its ideas central to those times. This quite dense but very readable survey put lots of disconnected bits together for me. Especially good on the ideas that fuelled the change.  Current novel - slowly working through this series. Should finish when I'm 80. The heroes back from their American adventures around the time of the 1812-14 war, about to set off for the Baltic. This has had quite a bit of press coverage as an argument that 1971 was the greatest year in rock. Daft marketing premise and hides the fact that this is more than just a fluffy bit of fandom. Covers the year month by month linking the music with the social context. 1970-73 were probably my formative years with music (and still the period of rock music I use as a comfort zone) so it has obvious personal appeal. He's very good on how unformed much of the business still was then and how central listening to records was to young people then with few other alternatives (he's spot on when he comments how most teenagers/early adults just assumed TV was not for them...I went through most of the 70s almost completely ignoring it). But he also reminds you of what was really prominent at the time rather than what subsequent revisionism has deemed significant. So early on he highlights the huge success of Carol King's 'Tapestry' (with suggestions as to why), a record that rarely figures highly in the standard histories of the time (most accounts would have you believe that everyone was listening to Iggy Pop). I remember it being hugely popular right through to my university years from 1970s. I hated the record (without having listened to it beyond the radio hits), probably for no other reason than its popularity. I very much like it now. An echo of a past I didn't actually experience. My, I was right prig as a young man.    Edited April 20, 2016 by A Lark Ascending Quote
ejp626 Posted April 21, 2016 Report Posted April 21, 2016 On 4/17/2016 at 8:19 PM, ejp626 said: Just starting Keane's Queen Lear. The opening scene is this young girl running all around her parents' estate, checking up on what all the servants are doing. It kind of reminds me a bit of Peake's Gormenghast actually. I am not enjoying this at all.  In the opening section, Molly Keane managed to portray the mother as a monster, yet again.  She basically hated her own mother and takes it out on mothers again and again and again. Then we shift to the young girl as a young woman, who is the most boring milquetoast character I've endured in a very long time.  I understand there is some dark comic twist at the end of the novel, but I can't see it making up for the middle section.  Well, I should wrap it up tonight. I'm astounded that a few people (relatively few) consider this her best novel.  I much preferred the novels from the first part of her career, as I didn't like Good Behaviour that much either (which far more people consider her best). Quote
HutchFan Posted April 21, 2016 Report Posted April 21, 2016 (edited) On 4/17/2016 at 2:17 AM, Jazzmoose said: After reading the Faulkner stuff earlier, I had to pull The Sound and the Fury off the shelf one more time, mainly to see if I could figure out the second section a bit better. (First section I've read too much-it was too fun to ignore. The third is pointless; I'd just put it down and grab The Hamlet instead. The fourth section tells me that Faulkner had too much power in the writer-editor relationship. It's like having a Disney ending tacked onto Citizen Kane.) Hmm. I had a very different take on Dilsey's section. I wouldn't characterize it as Disney-like or Pollyannaish. After the unremitting bleakness of all that comes before, there's finally a character who recognizes that other people exist. All of the preceding characters live in a solipsistic world. Dilsey doesn't. Even though she's on the lowest rung of the social hierarchy, she's the only one who's admirable. Her hope in something greater may be foolish, but at least she's fighting for meaning. I think that gives her far more dimension and humanity than the others, all of whom are already defeated. Then again, one of my beefs with Faulkner is that all of his characters are close variations on the exact same character. They're all "Faulkner characters," rather than the myriad types of human beings that one recognizes in the world. For what it's worth... Edited April 21, 2016 by HutchFan Quote
Jazzmoose Posted April 23, 2016 Report Posted April 23, 2016 I get that this was his intent, but to me it just seems like bad execution after the first three sections. Quote
Leeway Posted April 23, 2016 Report Posted April 23, 2016 THE BAY OF NOON - 1970- Shirley Hazzard My first exposure to Hazzard's work (I've been meaning to read "Transit of Venus" forever, but it's this early novel I ended up reading first), it left me with an interest in reading more of her. Set in post-WWII Italy, the portrait of the city of Naples is quite wonderfully evocative. Quote
ejp626 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Posted April 24, 2016 I've decided that I need to take a bit of a breather from fiction and even from urban studies, which is what I typically read when reading non-fiction, and I will focus on science and anthropology for a while. I'm starting with this: Or rather I'm actually rereading it, but then I will read Darwin's The Voyage of the Beagle, which I started several times but never finished. I will this time around. Quote
BillF Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 The third early Bellow I've returned to recently and the best - an impressive work. Looking forward to re-reading Herzog soon. Quote
Leeway Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 THE BACHELORS - 1960 - Muriel Spark Came across this relatively very early Spark novel. Not among her best, but plenty to amuse and ponder. Her ostensible targets are bachelors and spiritualism, but her real concerns may be marriage, sin and the devil. Quote
paul secor Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 45 minutes ago, Leeway said: THE BACHELORS - 1960 - Muriel Spark Came across this relatively very early Spark novel. Not among her best, but plenty to amuse and ponder. Her ostensible targets are bachelors and spiritualism, but her real concerns may be marriage, sin and the devil. I've read two if Spark's novels and keep meaning to read more, but my "to read" list and piles are too large already. Someday .... Quote
BillF Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 Perhaps not Highsmith's best, but she's always worth reading! Â Quote
ejp626 Posted May 2, 2016 Report Posted May 2, 2016 Not as far as I thought/hoped with Naipaul's The Enigma of Arrival.  The first section is incredibly dull, just about like reading about paint drying.  The next section is a bit better but still not nearly as good as the sea voyage sections of Ondaatje'e The Cat's Table, for example.  I guess I'll persist though. On the other hand, I did finish the section on the special theory of relativity and am heading into the general theory.  It does help to read other books about the subject though, since Einstein is a bit too terse for a lay audience to grasp the implications of what he is writing about.  Martin Gardner's Relativity Simply Explained is one of the better primers. Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted May 3, 2016 Report Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) Still leisurely working through 'Mahler' (about to hit the Vienna opera) and 'The Reformation' (Council of Trent about to kick off; I think I now understand Anabaptists!). Read this quickly over the weekend and very much enjoyed it:  A sort of follow-up to his 'What a Carve Up' of some years back; where that was a black satire on Thatcherism, this one focuses on the current 'Age of Austerity'. Not so much a novel as a series on interconnecting short stories; a mix of social/political satire, Gothic novel and B-Movie horror (his technique probably owes more to cinema than lit-er-a-tuh). Continues Coe's regular theme of nostalgia for the Welfare State era which at least attempted to place state duty to care for the entire community as paramount, contrasted with the stark dog-eat-dog world of free-marketism (ironic as one of the book's themes is a warning about the dangers of nostalgia). Reading it in the immediate wake of the Panama Papers and antics of the greedy buggers* who raided the BHS pension scheme, it seems less fiction than news reporting. Might appeal to those who enjoyed John Lanchester's 'Capital' - though it's much more of a shaggy dog story.     * Of course I really meant 'risk-taking wealth creators'. Edited May 3, 2016 by A Lark Ascending Quote
alankin Posted May 3, 2016 Report Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) 7 hours ago, A Lark Ascending said:   A sort of follow-up to his 'What a Carve Up' of some years back; where that was a black satire on Thatcherism, this one focuses on the current 'Age of Austerity'. Not so much a novel as a series on interconnecting short stories; a mix of social/political satire, Gothic novel and B-Movie horror (his technique probably owes more to cinema than lit-er-a-tuh). Continues Coe's regular theme of nostalgia for the Welfare State era which at least attempted to place state duty to care for the entire community as paramount, contrasted with the stark dog-eat-dog world of free-marketism (ironic as one of the book's themes is a warning about the dangers of nostalgia). Reading it in the immediate wake of the Panama Papers and antics of the greedy buggers* who raided the BHS pension scheme, it seems less fiction than news reporting. Might appeal to those who enjoyed John Lanchester's 'Capital' - though it's much more of a shaggy dog story.     * Of course I really meant 'risk-taking wealth creators'. Some might say "wealth-taking risk creators".   Edited May 3, 2016 by alankin Quote
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