Jazzmoose Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 I'm doing something I swore I'd never do again: struggling to finish a book I'm not enjoying. The book is Blue Mars by Kim Stanley Robinson, and while he held my attention through the first two books, this one is wearing me down. One problem is that most of the characters, while well done, are thoroughly unlikable. I know this is an award winner, but I really can't recommend it. Last year I read his most recent SF novel 2312. The man is just not such a good writer as all the acclaim would lead you to believe. I'd read the first two Mars books while in high school and wanted to get into SF again. I shouldn't have bothered with mr. Robinson. What a letdown. I'm glad it's not just me. With his reputation, I was expected a classic. It's certainly not what I got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmoose Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Cryptonomicon Mass Market Paperback by Neal Stephenson (Author) Just started this 1000+ page tome and I've already encountered more math formulas than in many non-fiction physics books. Another 'new' writer for me in my return to SF. I've only read Snow Crash so far, though The Diamond Age is on the 'ready' shelf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 So far Robert Boswell's novel "Tumbledown" is excellent, though quite dense in its at times almost slow-motion "noticing" (though it's not self-conscious in style). My only problem is the psychiatric treatment center setting and that many of the characters are significantly eccentric or worse "clients" in the orbit of the book's troubled-himself central figure, the 33-year-old therapist who is in line to be the facility's new director. My problem is that these "clients" and their problems seem, thanks to Boswell's skill and empathy, so damn real to me (yet also, as it no doubt should be, significantly "other") that I find consistent contact with them to be disturbing. Of course, it pretty much needs to be that way. I was alerted to the book by this review: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/11/books/review/tumbledown-by-robert-boswell.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwbol Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Bought Unspeakable and Marches On to complement Apes of Wrath which was hilarious with its commentary and glossary: Evildoer Anyone who is not a frenna freem Freeman moxy Mercas gif to the wurl Yurpeen Union Another organisation of evildoers All you could ask for in a series of history books. Now reading: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 Luis Alberto Urrea: Queen Of America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
page Posted November 15, 2013 Report Share Posted November 15, 2013 (edited) Sorry to ask this here but I thought you readers might know. I'd like to know whether there is a thread where people have written their own thoughts like as a musing or a poem or something? Thanks. regards, page Edited November 16, 2013 by page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted November 16, 2013 Report Share Posted November 16, 2013 Cory MacLauchlin: Butterfly in the Typewriter - The Tragic Life of John Kennedy Toole and the Remarkable Story of A Confederacy of Dunces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 Bill Bryson, "One Summer: America, 1927" Just finished it, actually. Fun, undemanding reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Lark Ascending Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) Now reading: Thanks for bringing that up. Checked online blurb and it looks right up my street - put an order in. Just finished the last but one David Downing novel which is set in late '45 in Berlin and across southern and eastern Europe against the backdrop of the mass migrations and the Jewish routes to Palestine. I teach the Cold War to 17-18 year olds so books like this provide constant new information and anecdotes. Can recommend this one I read last year that overlaps though covers a longer time period: Edited November 18, 2013 by A Lark Ascending Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwbol Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) Now reading: Thanks for bringing that up. Checked online blurb and it looks right up my street - put an order in. Just finished the last but one David Downing novel which is set in late '45 in Berlin and across southern and eastern Europe against the backdrop of the mass migrations and the Jewish routes to Palestine. I teach the Cold War to 17-18 year olds so books like this provide constant new information and anecdotes. Can recommend this one I read last year that overlaps though covers a longer time period: After I finish Savage Continent I'll probably order the following recent title which has been getting good reviews. Amazon.co.uk Edited November 20, 2013 by erwbol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Finished Robert Boswell's "Tumbledown." Terrific novel. Boswell takes some risky narrative chances toward the end and brings it all off beautifully (e.g. creates two divergent paths of the plot -- one in which a particular character commits suicide, another in which he does not -- and sustains them in rapid alternation almost until the very end). What a generous book, too. A lot of these people (many of them "clients" in a private mental hospital) are in significant, even dire, straits in life, but he isn't out to unduly punish them or us or to provide dubious uplift either. In particular, one semi-subsidiary character who comes across for a good while as a fairly annoying transcendental doofus eventually and quite believably comes to behave with a good deal of soulful good sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Litweiler Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Cory MacLauchlin: Butterfly in the Typewriter - The Tragic Life of John Kennedy Toole and the Remarkable Story of A Confederacy of Dunces Toole and his mother were certainly fascinating characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 I'm actually in the middle of a lot of novels, which isn't something I generally like to be doing, so I will try to close out on a few. The main problem is that the Proust volumes are quite heavy in addition to being slow going, so I can't take them everywhere, esp. if I know I need to be carting other things back and forth to work. I will have close to 8 hours on the bus tomorrow (Sat.) and maybe will get through a couple of shorter books instead. Anyway, Proust's Within a Budding Grove. An e-book version of Henri Alain-Fournier's Le Grand MeaulnesJeremy Thrane by Kate Christensen Vargas Llosa's The Bad Girl (I am not at all taken with this one. I find it repetitive and quite tedious actually.) That Awful Mess on Via Merulana by Carlo Emilio Gadda (Maybe the best of the bunch, but I am having some trouble understanding why what comes across as largely a police procedural was considered (at one point) a major modernist masterpiece. Unless I am totally off-track, the revealing of how many unlikely people are implicated in the crimes was old hat when Priestly did it in An Inspector Calls.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted November 24, 2013 Report Share Posted November 24, 2013 Ross Macdonald: The Galton Case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Serioza Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Omgf4bBkL._SY344_PJlook-inside-v2,TopRight,1,0_SH20_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 I knocked off 2 from my list (The Bad Girl and Le Grand Meaulnes). While I will always prefer a printed book for reading on the go, reading the epub file (through an epub-reader extension on Firefox) wasn't too bad. I went ahead and downloaded a few more epub files from Project Gutenberg. Apparently, a bunch of folks on-line are reading Middlemarch in Dec. and have a whole schedule to follow. I might join along. I should be able to finish That Awful Mess on Via Merulana by Friday, then refocus on Proust. Or at least I should have been able to, except I have gotten interested in reading Robert Walser (Berlin Stories, The Tanners, etc.). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted November 27, 2013 Report Share Posted November 27, 2013 Benjamin Black: Holy Orders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinuta Posted November 28, 2013 Report Share Posted November 28, 2013 (edited) Now reading: Thanks for bringing that up. Checked online blurb and it looks right up my street - put an order in. Just finished the last but one David Downing novel which is set in late '45 in Berlin and across southern and eastern Europe against the backdrop of the mass migrations and the Jewish routes to Palestine. I teach the Cold War to 17-18 year olds so books like this provide constant new information and anecdotes. Can recommend this one I read last year that overlaps though covers a longer time period: Thanks for the Anne Applebaum recommendation, I've just started it. Edited November 28, 2013 by kinuta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 In general, I have been underwhelmed by Anne Applebaum's various oped pieces in the Washington Post and/or Slate. They usually strike me as neo-con-lite (and consistently Rah-rah'ing for American Power) to the point I rarely click through if I see her name in the byline.However, I had no idea that she lives permanently in Poland and is married to Poland's Minister of Foreign Affairs Radosław Sikorski. That is certainly interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzmoose Posted November 29, 2013 Report Share Posted November 29, 2013 I've been keeping it light, trying to recover from the Mars trilogy; I read Alan Dean Fosters For Love of Mother-Not and just reread Methuselah's Children by Heinlein. I may have to take a break from SF for a bit; I feel one of my recurring Vonnegut jags coming on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Lark Ascending Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Just finished. I do like her books - long and so many sub-plots. The characters are endearing too. Not for oh-so-hard-to-please-aesthetes. Just started: Thanks erwbol - this is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Picked up a cheap used copy of this which turned out to be signed by the author. An eminently readable jazz autobiography, of particular interest to me as Peter is almost exactly my age and the changes in the British jazz scene 1950s to present are all recognizable to me. Fascinating stories of jazz greats - and he knew many. He was particularly close with Philly Joe as they had the same "hobby". Lots of humour, too, as for instance when as a young man during his brief baritone-playing phase, he gets off a bus with his saxophone case to be greeted by a chirpy Cockney with, "Wotcher got in there, mate, a bleedin' submarine?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Cornelia Nixon: Jarrettsville Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeway Posted December 3, 2013 Report Share Posted December 3, 2013 Still on my Tolstoy kick: In the Pevear and Volokhonsky translation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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