Mingus Pre-Bird

[Mark Stryker]

Gang,

Can anyone tell what the original issue of this recording was called? Assume it's "Pre-Bird" but have seen enough other references that I want to be sure. Thanks.

Charles Mingus - Gunther Schuller Orchestra

Marcus Belgrave, Ted Curson, Hobart Dotson, Clark Terry, Richard Williams (tp) Eddie Bert, Charles Greenlee, Slide Hampton, Jimmy Knepper (tb) Don Butterfield (tu) Robert DiDomenica (fl) Harry Shulman (ob) John LaPorta (as, cl) Eric Dolphy (as, bcl, fl) Bill Barron, Joe Farrell (ts) Yusef Lateef (ts, fl) Danny Bank (bars) Charles McCracken (vlc) Roland Hanna (p) Charles Mingus (b, arr) Dannie Richmond (d) Sticks Evans, Max Roach, George Scott (per) Gunther Schuller (cond)

NYC, May 24, 1960

20093 Half-Mast Inhibition Mercury MG 20627

20094 Mingus Fingus, No. 2 -

20095 Bemoanable Lady -

20096 Yusef Isef Too unissued

* Mercury MG 20627, SR 60627, (J) PHCE 6006 Charles Mingus - Pre-Bird

= Limelight LM 82015, LS 86015 Charles Mingus - Mingus Revisited

[Chuck Nessa]

Pre-Bird.

[BillF]

I remember it as Pre-Bird in the early 1960s.

[J.A.W.]

Yep, Pre-Bird.

[sonnymax]

Originally issued as "Pre-Bird" on Mercury:

It was later "revisited" on Limelight as, well...

[JSngry]

Original cover:

Limelight cover (with that deluxe Limelight packaging inside and out):

Oddly enough, the Trip reissue, which as all things Trip was budget all the way), reissued the album as if the Limelight was the original:

Go figure.

I started with the Trip in my collection, eventually added a Limelight, and finally got a Mercury. Mingus revisited indeed!

[Mark Stryker]

Thanks all. Best chat board in all of Internet-dom ...

[Clunky]

my reissue looks like this

[A Lark Ascending]

Not another Lynard Skynard thread!

[J.A.W.]

Not another Lynard Skynard thread!

[paul secor]

my reissue looks like this

I recall seeing that cover years ago. Believe the one I saw was a Dutch reissue.

[clifford_thornton]

Don't forget the Amiga LP!

I thought there was a Dutch Fontana version using the Limelight cover (in a single sleeve), but I can't find that online right now.

[Ted O'Reilly]

That's the album that made me realize that "Take The A Train" was based on "Exactly Like You" (more or less). Okay, okay, I was young and stupid. But I'm not young any longer...

[Mark Stryker]

That's the album that made me realize that "Take The A Train" was based on "Exactly Like You" (more or less). Okay, okay, I was young and stupid. But I'm not young any longer...

Isn't "I was young and stupid" the opening line of the lyric on "Duke Ellington's Sound of Love."

No, wait, it's "I was young and carefree."

[king ubu]

That's the album that made me realize that "Take The A Train" was based on "Exactly Like You" (more or less). Okay, okay, I was young and stupid. But I'm not young any longer...

Isn't "I was young and stupid" the opening line of the lyric on "Duke Ellington's Sound of Love."

No, wait, it's "I was young and carefree."

[brownie]

The original European edition (on Dutch Mercury) had this cover

that's how I heard the music first!

I'm sure Mingus did not approve the use of his first name's spelling

[paul secor]

The original European edition (on Dutch Mercury) had this cover

that's how I heard the music first!

I'm sure Mingus did not approve the use of his first name's spelling

Looks like all of the issues with his name on the cover refer to him as Charlie.

[king ubu]

Yeah, with respect to spelling, the Limelight is best.

My first CD used that cover, later on I got the VME with the original Mercury cover.