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FaceBook has allowed me to reconnect with HS friends and others I haven't seen in 35 years or more.

It also helps me stay connected to family and colleagues.

It ain't all bad, Guys.

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Not bad at all - I love it. What you get out of it depends on what you put into it, and what your circle of "friends" is. Mine are primarily older, intelligent, and open-minded. I've made great friends, reconnected with old ones, and been exposed to more new ideas than I can count. Most of the visual "slams" in the blog post above are far more juvenile and one-note than most of what I usually see on FB.

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i want to note that zuckerberg did not want to do an ipo with FB and didn't scheme to make a huge amount of money. he wanted to keep it private, but our sec forced fb to go onto the stock market.

as i recall. when there are 500+ investors, an ipo must be issued.

it appears the stock brokers may have let him down, bigtime.

as it is, zuckerberg retains a majority of the voting shares. many of the shares issued were nonvoting b shares.

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FaceBook has allowed me to reconnect with HS friends and others I haven't seen in 35 years or more.

I haven't looked at Facebook, but one of my grandsons put up a page on his Mum, my daughter, and she's now hooked up with an old school friend she hasn't seen for twenty years. So yes, I suppose for some things, it's fine.

MG

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It might be true that Facebook can be used for positive activities and have some network building effect for some, but it's also important to note that it also brings many problems for a lot of people. This is problems like breaking up relationships because of people exposing themselves to previous partners, giving young people a tool to expose themselves now in a way that will not be to their advantage when they grow up, filling up people's time with mundane communication like posting when they wake up and water their plants and stuff. There is too much of a vibe that everyone is at Facebook so it should be OK in all aspects, and not enough discussion of the negative aspects of using fragile virtual networks like this in my opinion.

Some more discussions of this on the web:

http://www.theindiansabroad.com/2010/09/ten-anti-social-effects-of-facebook/

http://www.sortoflife.com/home/2011/11/negative-aspects-of-facebook/

http://observer.com/2011/07/with-friends-like-these-4/

http://sickfacebook.com/

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I have also had many positive experiences with Facebook. The negativity about Facebook on this board mystifies me.

It baffles me, too.

I have no doubt that if used properly and to one's own advantage, Facebook can be an awesome tool for many things. However, there have been a couple of well-publicized downsides. Off the top of my head:

1. I've heard stories of job offers being rescinded because of behavior witnessed on Facebook accounts.

2. Kids often post pics on Facebooks that have been taken using smartphones. Last year, it was discovered that such pics contain GPS technology embedded in them. Predators have been using this technology to actively stalk children. As a father of two teenagers, this is the one I have the biggest problem with.

Hopefully, I've helped you guys to become a little more unbaffled.

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I have also had many positive experiences with Facebook. The negativity about Facebook on this board mystifies me.

It baffles me, too.

I have no doubt that if used properly and to one's own advantage, Facebook can be an awesome tool for many things. However, there have been a couple of well-publicized downsides. Off the top of my head:

1. I've heard stories of job offers being rescinded because of behavior witnessed on Facebook accounts.

2. Kids often post pics on Facebooks that have been taken using smartphones. Last year, it was discovered that such pics contain GPS technology embedded in them. Predators have been using this technology to actively stalk children. As a father of two teenagers, this is the one I have the biggest problem with.

Hopefully, I've helped you guys to become a little more unbaffled.

1. Well, yes, one is responsible for what one says or does on the internet. FB has nothing to do with it. One can find out a great deal about a person by reading posts on Organissimo as well. And if privacy settings are set up properly, only those who you allow to see anything you post can, well, see whatever you post.

2. Again, GPS info is more a feature of smart phones than of FB itself - and can easily be disabled on both platforms. Given that FB has something like a billion active users, I also doubt your fears are as widespread as you might think. Again, if privacy settings are set up properly, there's no way a "predator" could even see your postings - unless you let them of course.

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I have also had many positive experiences with Facebook. The negativity about Facebook on this board mystifies me.

It baffles me, too.

I have no doubt that if used properly and to one's own advantage, Facebook can be an awesome tool for many things. However, there have been a couple of well-publicized downsides. Off the top of my head:

1. I've heard stories of job offers being rescinded because of behavior witnessed on Facebook accounts.

2. Kids often post pics on Facebooks that have been taken using smartphones. Last year, it was discovered that such pics contain GPS technology embedded in them. Predators have been using this technology to actively stalk children. As a father of two teenagers, this is the one I have the biggest problem with.

Hopefully, I've helped you guys to become a little more unbaffled.

Those are problems that teenagers have with Facebook. But if you are an old coot like me communicating with other people your age on Facebook, I still don't see the problem with it. What baffles me is the knee jerk hostility to Facebook on this board.

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I have also had many positive experiences with Facebook. The negativity about Facebook on this board mystifies me.

It baffles me, too.

I have no doubt that if used properly and to one's own advantage, Facebook can be an awesome tool for many things. However, there have been a couple of well-publicized downsides. Off the top of my head:

1. I've heard stories of job offers being rescinded because of behavior witnessed on Facebook accounts.

2. Kids often post pics on Facebooks that have been taken using smartphones. Last year, it was discovered that such pics contain GPS technology embedded in them. Predators have been using this technology to actively stalk children. As a father of two teenagers, this is the one I have the biggest problem with.

Hopefully, I've helped you guys to become a little more unbaffled.

1. Well, yes, one is responsible for what one says or does on the internet. FB has nothing to do with it. One can find out a great deal about a person by reading posts on Organissimo as well. And if privacy settings are set up properly, only those who you allow to see anything you post can, well, see whatever you post.

2. Again, GPS info is more a feature of smart phones than of FB itself - and can easily be disabled on both platforms. Given that FB has something like a billion active users, I also doubt your fears are as widespread as you might think. Again, if privacy settings are set up properly, there's no way a "predator" could even see your postings - unless you let them of course.

The point here is that while many adults can figure stuff out easily, teenagers often cannot, and therefore are more vulnerable. This is key because pedophiles do NOT stalk adults, after all. You'll note that I did state that if used properly, Facebook can be a useful tool. Perhaps, the bigger problem is that Facebook is a large part of the "too much technology" epidemic. Reducing the availability, reduces the danger.

Those are problems that teenagers have with Facebook. But if you are an old coot like me communicating with other people your age on Facebook, I still don't see the problem with it. What baffles me is the knee jerk hostility to Facebook on this board.

Yeah but I'm willing to bet that teenagers represent the largest demographic. Therefore, my 2nd point is a HUGE one.

I am not judging Facebook users --- whatever floats your boat and such.

I was just conjecturing as to why there might be so much negativity about it on this board.

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I'm just like, how many people do I really need to talk to, at least by name?

Probably not that many....

The beauty of it is can talk as little as you'd like. I'll go 2 months without posting my own content but I might comment in other peoples "threads" during that time. And when or if you're ever curious about what someone has chosen to share over time you can easily find out (if they're a friend).

It's also not just people, but record labels, alcohol companies, artists and other such close friends will also let you know what's up or coming out.

But to each his own.

As far as the dangers of phone technology, having a listed landline nowadays is probably worse than anything a smartphone can throw up. Check out the "see neighbors" function on either the White Pages website or its app. It'll give approximate ages (they're wrong about me from my now defunct landline) though not of children. Ted Bundy would loved it.

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I just liked facebook. :shrug[1]:

It's swell! someone just put up a version of I've Got Rhythm , by the Happenings.(ok it sucked, but still, never heard it before) Saw a friend post a pic of Loretta Young dolled up like Nefertiti for her tv show, saw via tv shows on Dvd that there is...The Carol Burnett Show - Press Release for 'The UltimateCollection' 22-DVD Set.

A couple of gals wanted some imput, via look swimwear...wanted to know if they looked good in a bikini. I was glad to do my part to boost their confidence. :blush:

Flickchick posted some cool Louise Brooks clips, a nice photo of Gloria Swanson....saw what Dagmar Midcap was up to recently(google her, she won't mind!) plus some semi interesting posts from friends...

I NEED TO WASTE TIME! :angry:

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i want to note that zuckerberg did not want to do an ipo with FB and didn't scheme to make a huge amount of money. he wanted to keep it private, but our sec forced fb to go onto the stock market.

as i recall. when there are 500+ investors, an ipo must be issued.

it appears the stock brokers may have let him down, bigtime.

as it is, zuckerberg retains a majority of the voting shares. many of the shares issued were nonvoting b shares.

1. You're right in that he really isn't interested in money, per se. He was already worth a couple billion on paper.

2. The SEC can't force a company to go public.

3. 12g just states any company with 500 investors and $10 million in assets has to file detailed quarterly & annual financial reports. These reports also become public record.

4. Once Facebook passed the threshold the best time to file an IPO was before they had to legally file.

5. Those who sold their shares converted their B shares into A shares. He still owns 58% of the B shares, which is why he can do anything he wants.

Edited by Blue Train
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my internet friend, head of the reuters news agency in chicago, has pointed out some remarkable facts in what appears to be a zuckerberg intercontinental marital tax evading money grab.

when i get the sources organized, i'll put the item up. :rolleyes:

I think you're mistaking him with Eduardo Saverin. He was one of 1800 people to give up their U.S. citizenship last year to avoid paying taxes, or disclosing their offshore assets.. Instead of having to pay taxes on what he was worth once the IPO happened...he had to pay a one time "exit" tax based on what he was worth at the time, which was nowhere near the $4 billion the IPO made him.

All getting married after the IPO did was protect his pre-marriage worth in California. That's if he didn't have a pre-nup, but considering his wife had him sign a relationship contract before she moved there in the first place, I doubt there isn't a pre-nup.

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I have no doubt that if used properly and to one's own advantage, Facebook can be an awesome tool for many things. However, there have been a couple of well-publicized downsides. Off the top of my head:

1. I've heard stories of job offers being rescinded because of behavior witnessed on Facebook accounts.

2. Kids often post pics on Facebooks that have been taken using smartphones. Last year, it was discovered that such pics contain GPS technology embedded in them. Predators have been using this technology to actively stalk children. As a father of two teenagers, this is the one I have the biggest problem with.

Hopefully, I've helped you guys to become a little more unbaffled.

Trying this for the third time. Having the delete button in the place the edit button is on every other place will take awhile to get used too.

It's called Geotagging. Anyone interested in disabling it.

http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/11712/how-to-disable-geotagging-on-your-smartphones-camera-android-iphone-blackberry/

The biggest problem is facebook's privacy settings are convoluted. There is a reason it is like that. Most people do not know how to set them properly. Also, many adults are worse than the kids. A member who posted in this thread really needs to figure out how to use them properly and pass it on to his family.

Why anyone uses their real name and then proceeds to upload pictures or post anything without making sure, only their friends can see them is beyond me.

Why other people upload embarrassing pictures or posts on top of that is another discussion.

Even when you delete things, they will still be on facebook's servers for awhile

Edited by Blue Train
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I have no doubt that if used properly and to one's own advantage, Facebook can be an awesome tool for many things. However, there have been a couple of well-publicized downsides. Off the top of my head:

1. I've heard stories of job offers being rescinded because of behavior witnessed on Facebook accounts.

2. Kids often post pics on Facebooks that have been taken using smartphones. Last year, it was discovered that such pics contain GPS technology embedded in them. Predators have been using this technology to actively stalk children. As a father of two teenagers, this is the one I have the biggest problem with.

Hopefully, I've helped you guys to become a little more unbaffled.

Trying this for the third time. Having the delete button in the place the edit button is on every other place will take awhile to get used too.

It's called Geotagging. Anyone interested in disabling it.

http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/11712/how-to-disable-geotagging-on-your-smartphones-camera-android-iphone-blackberry/

The biggest problem is facebook's privacy settings are convoluted. There is a reason it is like that. Most people do not know how to set them properly. Also, many adults are worse than the kids. A member who posted in this thread really needs to figure out how to use them properly and pass it on to his family.

Why anyone uses their real name and then proceeds to upload pictures or post anything without making sure, only their friends can see them is beyond me.

Why other people upload embarrassing pictures or posts on top of that is another discussion.

Even when you delete things, they will still be on facebook's servers for awhile

Given that we don't live in a perfect world, where everybody knows how to do things that they should or actually avoids doing things that they shouldn't do, Facebook's availability makes the playing field just a little more uneven and dangerous than it needs to be. Just sayin'.

You can couch this any way that you want, but it doesn't change reality. All this technology is a dangerous thing.

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All this technology is a dangerous thing.

It's been that way since before the wheel. The verdict isn't in yet but many believe the widespread of cellphone cameras might be deterring crime.

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