The Magnificent Goldberg Posted May 23, 2012 Report Posted May 23, 2012 A What are 'grocers apostrophes'? B Why isn't there an apostrophe in grocers? I don't know what it means without one. C I can't see anything wrong with the Howard Roberts' sleeve. MGOh, I see there is an apostrophe in the thread title. When replying, you can't see the title, only in the address line, which omits naughty things like apostrophes. I still don't know what grocer's apostrophes are, though. MGOh, I see there is an apostrophe in the thread title. When replying, you can't see the title, only in the address line, which omits naughty things like apostrophes. I still don't know what grocer's apostrophes are, though. MG Quote
JSngry Posted May 23, 2012 Report Posted May 23, 2012 http://walkinthewords.blogspot.com/2009/05/grocers-apostrophe.html Quote
Pete C Posted May 23, 2012 Author Report Posted May 23, 2012 (edited) IIRC, the term originated in the U.K. At least the cover I posted didn't say Howard Robert's. Edited May 23, 2012 by Pete C Quote
crisp Posted May 23, 2012 Report Posted May 23, 2012 Tut tut. It should be "grocers' apostrophes"... Quote
Noj Posted May 23, 2012 Report Posted May 23, 2012 Funny, I just saw a bin labeled "loose wheel's" yesterday and it irked me. Quote
JSngry Posted May 23, 2012 Report Posted May 23, 2012 Punctuation be damned, that's a cute chick! Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted May 23, 2012 Report Posted May 23, 2012 http://walkinthewords.blogspot.com/2009/05/grocers-apostrophe.html Thanks Jim. So, now I know - and it is strange that the expression originated here, but probably among the upper classes, to few of whom I have ever spoken - I am sure there's nowt wrong with the sleeve. "Pickin's" is perfectly proper, as a G has been omitted. It would indeed be interestin' to see if there are sleeves with incorrect apostrophisation. I can't think of any except by Booker T & the MG's, and the JB's. But, though I greatly prefer to write or see MGs or JBs, lots of people say this is correct. MG Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted May 23, 2012 Report Posted May 23, 2012 I suppose most people would think this is correct, too. MG Quote
Pete C Posted June 8, 2012 Author Report Posted June 8, 2012 (edited) As a proofreader I have to correct things like 60's to '60s all the time. Here's how the other living president's stack up: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/george-w-bush-favorable-rating-lowest-living-president-100010623.html I can't think of any except by Booker T & the MG's, and the JB's. But, though I greatly prefer to write or see MGs or JBs, lots of people say this is correct. My policy is to allow an apostrophe if the style is all caps but lower case s w/o apostrophe if mixed case. So: DVD'S or DVDs, but not DVD's. Edited June 8, 2012 by Pete C Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted June 8, 2012 Report Posted June 8, 2012 As a proofreader I have to correct things like 60's to '60s all the time. Here's how the other living president's stack up: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/george-w-bush-favorable-rating-lowest-living-president-100010623.html I can't think of any except by Booker T & the MG's, and the JB's. But, though I greatly prefer to write or see MGs or JBs, lots of people say this is correct. My policy is to allow an apostrophe if the style is all caps but lower case s w/o apostrophe if mixed case. So: DVD'S or DVDs, but not DVD's. I can see the rationale for that. Is it common in the USA? I mean, is getting it right common MG Quote
David Ayers Posted June 8, 2012 Report Posted June 8, 2012 As a proofreader I have to correct things like 60's to '60s all the time. Here's how the other living president's stack up: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/george-w-bush-favorable-rating-lowest-living-president-100010623.html I can't think of any except by Booker T & the MG's, and the JB's. But, though I greatly prefer to write or see MGs or JBs, lots of people say this is correct. My policy is to allow an apostrophe if the style is all caps but lower case s w/o apostrophe if mixed case. So: DVD'S or DVDs, but not DVD's. Pickin's is correct of course. Quote
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted June 8, 2012 Report Posted June 8, 2012 As a proofreader I have to correct things like 60's to '60s all the time. Here's how the other living president's stack up: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/george-w-bush-favorable-rating-lowest-living-president-100010623.html I can't think of any except by Booker T & the MG's, and the JB's. But, though I greatly prefer to write or see MGs or JBs, lots of people say this is correct. My policy is to allow an apostrophe if the style is all caps but lower case s w/o apostrophe if mixed case. So: DVD'S or DVDs, but not DVD's. Pickin's is correct of course. That's what I said. MG A What are 'grocers apostrophes'? B Why isn't there an apostrophe in grocers? I don't know what it means without one. C I can't see anything wrong with the Howard Roberts' sleeve. MG Quote
Pete C Posted June 8, 2012 Author Report Posted June 8, 2012 No, the apostrophe would only be acceptable for an abbreviation or acronym in all caps where the lack might cause confusion. Pickins should never be Pickin's unless it's a possessive for Mr. Pickin. Getting matters of orthographic style right is hit or miss in any country in my experience. Quote
BillF Posted June 8, 2012 Report Posted June 8, 2012 No, the apostrophe would only be acceptable for an abbreviation or acronym in all caps where the lack might cause confusion. Pickins should never be Pickin's unless it's a possessive for Mr. Pickin. Pickin's is so spelt (is it "spelled" in the U.S? ) as the "g" is omitted as in so many jazz titles: Workin'', Cookin', Steamin', Relaxin', etc. Quote
David Ayers Posted June 8, 2012 Report Posted June 8, 2012 No, the apostrophe would only be acceptable for an abbreviation or acronym in all caps where the lack might cause confusion. Pickins should never be Pickin's unless it's a possessive for Mr. Pickin. Getting matters of orthographic style right is hit or miss in any country in my experience. It is an abbreviation. Quote
Pete C Posted June 8, 2012 Author Report Posted June 8, 2012 No, the apostrophe would only be acceptable for an abbreviation or acronym in all caps where the lack might cause confusion. Pickins should never be Pickin's unless it's a possessive for Mr. Pickin. Getting matters of orthographic style right is hit or miss in any country in my experience. It is an abbreviation. Are you a barrister? Quote
David Ayers Posted June 8, 2012 Report Posted June 8, 2012 No, the apostrophe would only be acceptable for an abbreviation or acronym in all caps where the lack might cause confusion. Pickins should never be Pickin's unless it's a possessive for Mr. Pickin. Getting matters of orthographic style right is hit or miss in any country in my experience. It is an abbreviation. Are you a barrister? Are you a copy editor? Quote
Pete C Posted June 10, 2012 Author Report Posted June 10, 2012 Are you a copy editor? Yes. However, I will grant that a case can be made for Pickin's based on the premise that the apostrophe represents the missing g in the singular. But as an editor I'd still change it. Quote
Head Man Posted June 10, 2012 Report Posted June 10, 2012 Over such things are wars fought! or should that read "over such thing's are war's fought"? no...stop it!!!!! Quote
Pete C Posted June 12, 2012 Author Report Posted June 12, 2012 I prefer to end the sentence with a preposition: Such things wars are fought over. Quote
Larry Kart Posted June 12, 2012 Report Posted June 12, 2012 Years ago a friend in San Francisco saw and made a drawing of (it's on my wall) a grocer's window in which there were these words: "Bing" Cherries Quote
Head Man Posted June 12, 2012 Report Posted June 12, 2012 Years ago a friend in San Francisco saw and made a drawing of (it's on my wall) a grocer's window in which there were these words: "Bing" Cherries Nope...got me there Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.