JSngry Posted August 22, 2012 Report Posted August 22, 2012 Adrian Beltre is one of the best day-in day-out baseball players I've ever had the privilege of watching. Quote
JSngry Posted August 22, 2012 Report Posted August 22, 2012 Looks like Bartolo Colon will be pitching batting practice to Melky Cabrera for a while now... http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8292935/rhp-bartolo-colon-oakland-athletics-suspended-50-games-violating-mlb-drug-policy Quote
Tim McG Posted August 22, 2012 Report Posted August 22, 2012 Looks like Bartolo Colon will be pitching batting practice to Melky Cabrera for a while now... http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8292935/rhp-bartolo-colon-oakland-athletics-suspended-50-games-violating-mlb-drug-policy Hm. When do they start focusing on the East Coast teams in contention...? Quote
JSngry Posted August 22, 2012 Report Posted August 22, 2012 You mean Colon wasn't "suspect" last year with the Yankees when he was getting those goathead braintissue injections into his kneebone joints from that doctor in Peruvazuela that was being hailed as a miracle of modern medicine, or whatever it was? Quote
Matthew Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Posted August 23, 2012 Interesting too that both have an ARod connection..... Quote
Tim McG Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) You mean Colon wasn't "suspect" last year with the Yankees when he was getting those goathead braintissue injections into his kneebone joints from that doctor in Peruvazuela that was being hailed as a miracle of modern medicine, or whatever it was? Nah. PEDs only happen in the Bay Area. Interesting too that both have an ARod connection..... Exactly. Melky Cabrera's BA in Chop-lanta was like .158 or something then all of a sudden he's hitting out of his shoes in KC. But the Giants were the reason why he was on PEDs. Sure. The East Coast guys are just pushed out of shape because Bud Selig made the All-Star Game result the home field advantage. Melky gets the MVP, the Yankees fans get all up in a lather [assuming they make it to the WS] and all of a sudden it's about the Giants and PEDs. Fine. Whatever. Tonight, I just want to see a Giants sweep of the [hated] Dodgers. Edited August 23, 2012 by GoodSpeak Quote
PHILLYQ Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 You mean Colon wasn't "suspect" last year with the Yankees when he was getting those goathead braintissue injections into his kneebone joints from that doctor in Peruvazuela that was being hailed as a miracle of modern medicine, or whatever it was? Nah. PEDs only happen in the Bay Area. Interesting too that both have an ARod connection..... Exactly. Melky Cabrera's BA in Chop-lanta was like .158 or something then all of a sudden he's hitting out of his shoes in KC. But the Giants were the reason why he was on PEDs. Sure. The East Coast guys are just pushed out of shape because Bud Selig made the All-Star Game result the home field advantage. Melky gets the MVP, the Yankees fans get all up in a lather [assuming they make it to the WS] and all of a sudden it's about the Giants and PEDs. Fine. Whatever. Tonight, I just want to see a Giants sweep of the [hated] Dodgers. So you're OK with a cheater maybe deciding home field advantage in the WS? Quote
Tim McG Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) You mean Colon wasn't "suspect" last year with the Yankees when he was getting those goathead braintissue injections into his kneebone joints from that doctor in Peruvazuela that was being hailed as a miracle of modern medicine, or whatever it was? Nah. PEDs only happen in the Bay Area. Interesting too that both have an ARod connection..... Exactly. Melky Cabrera's BA in Chop-lanta was like .158 or something then all of a sudden he's hitting out of his shoes in KC. But the Giants were the reason why he was on PEDs. Sure. The East Coast guys are just pushed out of shape because Bud Selig made the All-Star Game result the home field advantage. Melky gets the MVP, the Yankees fans get all up in a lather [assuming they make it to the WS] and all of a sudden it's about the Giants and PEDs. Fine. Whatever. Tonight, I just want to see a Giants sweep of the [hated] Dodgers. So you're OK with a cheater maybe deciding home field advantage in the WS? Is that what I said...? Because what I thought I said was the East Coast guys [Yankees fans in specific] are angry about Melky and the NL getting home field advantage in the playoffs. Further, I have always supported the best record for home field. But, of course, nobody reads/remembers that. Besides, if the AL won would we even be having this conversation? I doubt it. Blame Bud Selig for that home field nonsense, not some idiot PED user. Edited August 23, 2012 by GoodSpeak Quote
Chalupa Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) Honestly, the Astros (at least at this point) really screwed up, and didn't get anywhere near what they should have for the players they traded away. In their early days it was just maddening how bad they were at trades! The All Star team was full of players Houston had traded away. Joe Morgan, Rusty Staub, Denis Menke, Jimmy Wynn. Cesar Geronimo. And a bunch more. It wasn't all bad. They made out like bandits in the Nolan Ryan/Jeff Bagwell trades Edit. Just realized that they signed Ryan as an FA.I got them confused with the Angels. Still that Bagwell trade had to be one of the greatest fleeces in MLB history. Edited August 23, 2012 by J.H. Deeley Quote
JSngry Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 Adrian Beltre is one of the best day-in day-out baseball players I've ever had the privilege of watching. This. Quote
Soulstation1 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 Seems weird that guys are testing positive with 4-6 weeks left in the season. Wonder how late in the season that MLB can/will test the players? How many times can they test a player during the season? Quote
JETman Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 You mean Colon wasn't "suspect" last year with the Yankees when he was getting those goathead braintissue injections into his kneebone joints from that doctor in Peruvazuela that was being hailed as a miracle of modern medicine, or whatever it was? Nah. PEDs only happen in the Bay Area. Interesting too that both have an ARod connection..... Exactly. Melky Cabrera's BA in Chop-lanta was like .158 or something then all of a sudden he's hitting out of his shoes in KC. But the Giants were the reason why he was on PEDs. Sure. The East Coast guys are just pushed out of shape because Bud Selig made the All-Star Game result the home field advantage. Melky gets the MVP, the Yankees fans get all up in a lather [assuming they make it to the WS] and all of a sudden it's about the Giants and PEDs. Fine. Whatever. Tonight, I just want to see a Giants sweep of the [hated] Dodgers. So you're OK with a cheater maybe deciding home field advantage in the WS? How 'bout we replay the all-star game the day after the season ends? Quote
GA Russell Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 Seems weird that guys are testing positive with 4-6 weeks left in the season. Wonder how late in the season that MLB can/will test the players? How many times can they test a player during the season? ss1, Maddog Russo said on the radio yesterday that there are three windows - spring training, mid-year and fall. Quote
Matthew Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Posted August 23, 2012 Interesting too that both have an ARod connection..... Maybe if I ever get bored enough I could do this, but I really do wonder about ARod and the PED connection. He always seems to have a pretty scruffy posse in tow, and I would like to see how many of the players who have been suspended since ARod's Texas days have been in the same clubhouse with him. It just seems as if a lot of roads lead back to him or his hanger-ons when it comes to players and PEDs. Quote
BERIGAN Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) Honestly, the Astros (at least at this point) really screwed up, and didn't get anywhere near what they should have for the players they traded away. In their early days it was just maddening how bad they were at trades! The All Star team was full of players Houston had traded away. Joe Morgan, Rusty Staub, Denis Menke, Jimmy Wynn. Cesar Geronimo. And a bunch more. It wasn't all bad. They made out like bandits in the Nolan Ryan/Jeff Bagwell trades Edit. Just realized that they signed Ryan as an FA.I got them confused with the Angels. Still that Bagwell trade had to be one of the greatest fleeces in MLB history. True that....Mike Scott was transformed once he left the mets.He had 5 seasons in a row where he was one of the top starters in all of baseball. Imagine how good the Mets in the mid 80's would have been with Scott and Gooden! Another amazing rookie may get the call up soon, Slide Billy, Slide! http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1308245-cincinnati-reds-will-we-see-billy-hamilton-in-the-majors-this-season Edited August 23, 2012 by BERIGAN Quote
Soulstation1 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 All time favorite baseball player? George Brett's 1975 Topps Rookie Card Quote
JETman Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) Honestly, the Astros (at least at this point) really screwed up, and didn't get anywhere near what they should have for the players they traded away. In their early days it was just maddening how bad they were at trades! The All Star team was full of players Houston had traded away. Joe Morgan, Rusty Staub, Denis Menke, Jimmy Wynn. Cesar Geronimo. And a bunch more. It wasn't all bad. They made out like bandits in the Nolan Ryan/Jeff Bagwell trades Edit. Just realized that they signed Ryan as an FA.I got them confused with the Angels. Still that Bagwell trade had to be one of the greatest fleeces in MLB history. True that....Mike Scott was transformed once he left the mets.He had 5 seasons in a row where he was one of the top starters in all of baseball. Imagine how good the Mets in the mid 80's would have been with Scott and Gooden! Another amazing rookie may get the call up soon, Slide Billy, Slide! http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1308245-cincinnati-reds-will-we-see-billy-hamilton-in-the-majors-this-season As I recall, Scott had more than a little help. Learning how to cheat is NOT a transformation. FYI, the Mets already had the best pitching staff in baseball by a wide margin in the mid-80s. Gooden, Ojeda, Darling, Fernandez, Aguilera, Cone. Edited August 23, 2012 by JETman Quote
Quincy Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) Adrian Beltre is one of the best day-in day-out baseball players I've ever had the privilege of watching. This. Usually guys get jinxed after a comment like that. He had a Lawrence Welk game. An' a one, an' a two, an' a three... Edited August 23, 2012 by Quincy Quote
JSngry Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) Didn't worry about the jinx, hes been in a slumpy type ting for about 2-3 weeks now, average is still over .300, but...the last few days, though, he's been coming back to Full Beast Mode, so I figured it was time to put a pimpin' in for my most favorite Ranger (although on any given day, it could be any given infielder). Now, please, no jinx on the hamstring. That would...not be good. Edited August 23, 2012 by JSngry Quote
Patrick Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 As I recall, Scott had more than a little help. Learning how to cheat is NOT a transformation. FYI, the Mets already had the best pitching staff in baseball by a wide margin in the mid-80s. Gooden, Ojeda, Darling, Fernandez, Aguilera, Cone. What a tragic figure Ojeda turned out to be in Cleveland (...or Indians spring training) Quote
JSngry Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 Must-read (& SEE!) article about Dock Ellis: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=Dock-Ellis Quote
Mike Schwartz Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) Melky Cabrara hit .255 in Atlanta....not the previously mentioned '.158 or something' which was used or made up to make some kind of point There's never been any PED spotlight whatsoever towards any American League teams like the Yankees (Giambi, A Rod, Andy Pettitte, Clemens) It's messed up in 2 ways that the home field advantage in the World Series is based on the winner of the AS game: 1) foolish decision by the commissioner going back to the infamous *TIE* 2) this year's winner compounded by the winning team MVP being a known & suspended cheater. Edited August 23, 2012 by Mike Schwartz Quote
Mike Schwartz Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 23 out of the 37 MLB players suspended for PED violations since 2005 are from Latin American countries. Quote
BERIGAN Posted August 23, 2012 Report Posted August 23, 2012 Honestly, the Astros (at least at this point) really screwed up, and didn't get anywhere near what they should have for the players they traded away. In their early days it was just maddening how bad they were at trades! The All Star team was full of players Houston had traded away. Joe Morgan, Rusty Staub, Denis Menke, Jimmy Wynn. Cesar Geronimo. And a bunch more. It wasn't all bad. They made out like bandits in the Nolan Ryan/Jeff Bagwell trades Edit. Just realized that they signed Ryan as an FA.I got them confused with the Angels. Still that Bagwell trade had to be one of the greatest fleeces in MLB history. True that....Mike Scott was transformed once he left the mets.He had 5 seasons in a row where he was one of the top starters in all of baseball. Imagine how good the Mets in the mid 80's would have been with Scott and Gooden! Another amazing rookie may get the call up soon, Slide Billy, Slide! http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1308245-cincinnati-reds-will-we-see-billy-hamilton-in-the-majors-this-season As I recall, Scott had more than a little help. Learning how to cheat is NOT a transformation. FYI, the Mets already had the best pitching staff in baseball by a wide margin in the mid-80s. Gooden, Ojeda, Darling, Fernandez, Aguilera, Cone. It's true the Mets had a very good starting staff(though Aguilera was never a full time starter) but Mike Scott was great...it's funny how players just swear someone is a cheater(remember how Nolan Ryan was supposedly throwing a spitter/scuffed ball, in Texas?) Seems someone mentioned recently, Enos Cabell, helped turn Scott, into great Scott... http://espn.go.com/page2/s/1986/011011neyer.html Quote
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