AllenLowe Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I played Sunny at my high school senior variety show; they loved us. Did anyone mention Song for My Father? Pretty much, if Stanley Turrentine played it, or if it was on a CTI release, I hated it.or Blue Bossa. Too many jam session hacks.also, very tired of Koko. Nobody plays it fast enough, the Ellington or the Bird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Lark Ascending Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 'Satin Doll' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Man Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 "A Night In Tunisia" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertoart Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 All the ones sung by ageing rock stars and cabaret performers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 "Caravan" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 "More importantly probably, the whole hard bop rhythmic language and feel of the '50s/'60s is just very, very difficult to reproduce..." Sure is. Just listen to the Davis Quintet play "Tadd's Delight" and imagine any group of players today getting that feel. Closing the circle: Far from comprehensive Amazon search yields two other contemporary covers of "The Outlaw," neither of which I've heard. Joe Chambers: http://www.amazon.com/Outlaw-Joe-Chambers/dp/B000E40Q6K/ref=sr_1_9?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1333543717&sr=1-9 Danny D'Imperio: http://www.amazon.com/The-Outlaw-Danny-Group-DImperio/dp/B00000JFRP/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1333544183&sr=1-1 The Chambers is a Latin version -- sounds interesting but hard to compare with others. Deep's band, as one might expect, just nails it. Got to get that album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisp Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 "Caravan" Yes! "This is so exciting..." No it's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete C Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Maybe Caravan's faux-exotica puts it in a similar category with Blues March & Hoe Down, i.e. where the "different" ends up being the "artificial." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Norman Simmons' very slow version of 'Caravan' is delicious. You can see those weary camels plodding through the Sahara. I don't mind what people play, so long as it comes out right for me. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Man Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 "Caravan" Yes....that too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Pretty much, if Stanley Turrentine played it, or if it was on a CTI release, I hated it. If Stanley Turrentine is on it, or if it was release on CTI I probably LOVE it. Stanley is one of my most-played jazz artists, I don't see that ever changing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Lark Ascending Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) I don't mind what people play, so long as it comes out right for me. Yes. There aren't many tunes I dislike in themselves - 'Misty', 'Feelings' etc aside. But there are some I could do with a break from due to their constantly being played - not necessarily a problem in the tunes themselves. But that weariness can be overcome by an inspiring performance. Edited April 4, 2012 by A Lark Ascending Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I don't mind what people play, so long as it comes out right for me. Yes. There aren't many tunes I dislike in themselves - 'Misty', 'Feelings' etc aside. But there are some I could do with a break from due to their constantly being played - not necessarily a problem in the tunes themselves. But that weariness can be overcome by an inspiring performance. Groove Holmes has done super versons of those two. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) if was played by Hubert Laws and released on CTI, I also probably hate it. or Don Sebesky. Or George Benson. Or anything with a brightly colored cover and Creed Taylor's name on it. That stuff usually sends me out looking for a wooden cross and a stake with a sharp end on it. Edited April 4, 2012 by AllenLowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Lark Ascending Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I don't mind what people play, so long as it comes out right for me. Yes. There aren't many tunes I dislike in themselves - 'Misty', 'Feelings' etc aside. But there are some I could do with a break from due to their constantly being played - not necessarily a problem in the tunes themselves. But that weariness can be overcome by an inspiring performance. Groove Holmes has done super versons of those two. MG There's a live Bill Frisell CD where he starts to play one of them and stops. Someone in the audience sniggers and Frisell barks something to the effect of 'What?' I don't much like 'My Ship'....but I like the version on 'Miles Ahead', mainly because of the Evans arrangement of the orchestra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 That stuff usually sends me out looking for a wooden cross and a stake with a sharp end on it. A modern tone arm & cartridge would do the same thing with a lot less effort! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocispepraluger102 Posted April 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 (edited) I don't mind what people play, so long as it comes out right for me. Yes. There aren't many tunes I dislike in themselves - 'Misty', 'Feelings' etc aside. But there are some I could do with a break from due to their constantly being played - not necessarily a problem in the tunes themselves. But that weariness can be overcome by an inspiring performance. Groove Holmes has done super versons of those two. MG There's a live Bill Frisell CD where he starts to play one of them and stops. Someone in the audience sniggers and Frisell barks something to the effect of 'What?' I don't much like 'My Ship'....but I like the version on 'Miles Ahead', mainly because of the Evans arrangement of the orchestra. a spacious nine minute bob brookmeyer orchestral arrangement, with bob soloing, on the tomato label with german vocalist helen schneider(right as the rain) is my favorite. the recording includes superb arrangements by bob b. and helen schneider. Edited April 4, 2012 by alocispepraluger102 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete C Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I've put two and two together (and two threads together) and have come to the conclusion that Someone To Watch Over Me is best when played or sung by gay males. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stryker Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Never cared for "Misty" either but on the other hand always liked "I Want to Talk About You" (basically same changes). Here's an interesting version: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Hawkins Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Never cared for "Misty" either but on the other hand always liked "I Want to Talk About You" (basically same changes). Here's an interesting version: The cadenza on that performance always blows me away. Extraordinary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Friedman Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 "More importantly probably, the whole hard bop rhythmic language and feel of the '50s/'60s is just very, very difficult to reproduce..." Sure is. Just listen to the Davis Quintet play "Tadd's Delight" and imagine any group of players today getting that feel. Closing the circle: Far from comprehensive Amazon search yields two other contemporary covers of "The Outlaw," neither of which I've heard. Joe Chambers: http://www.amazon.com/Outlaw-Joe-Chambers/dp/B000E40Q6K/ref=sr_1_9?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1333543717&sr=1-9 Danny D'Imperio: http://www.amazon.com/The-Outlaw-Danny-Group-DImperio/dp/B00000JFRP/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1333544183&sr=1-1 "The Outlaw" is the title of the Sackville CD by Danny D'Imperio. That group does , in my opinion, a wonderful job with the title tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 I think my bigger beef is when rythm sections always double time the blowing parts of ballads - this has spoiled a lot of standards for me. I used to always have to yell "don't double up!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 I used to always have to yell "don't double up!" I*'ve played restaurants where the chefs would yell that to people eating the food... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 as long as it's not "all you can eat" night - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Now that I think of it, "That's All" is a nagging tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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