7/4 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Posted March 13, 2012 any thoughts on this? "Digitally remastered four CD collection containing all existing recordings made by Cecil Taylor for the legendary Candid label. Produced by legendary jazz critic Nat Hentoff in 1960-61, these recordings are essential to the history of Modern Jazz. Featured are such star sidemen as Archie Shepp, Clark Terry, Steve Lacy, Billy Higgins, and bassist Buell Neidlinger, who was the original leader on half of these sessions. A complete 1961 Taylor septet session produced by Creed Taylor, and the pianist's entire 1957 quartet performance at Newport have been added here as a bonus. Includes 24-page booklet. Solar." Quote
djcavanagh Posted March 13, 2012 Report Posted March 13, 2012 Isn't it just a rip-off of the Mosaic set with some extras thrown in? In terms of the music I've always enjoyed the Candid sessions but these are still available from Candid. Quote
jazzbo Posted March 13, 2012 Report Posted March 13, 2012 Public domain release of the Candid Taylor sessions, with additions of tracks from Impulse and Verve. Probably sourced from prior cd releases. My personal thoughts: for me, not necessary. Quote
J.A.W. Posted March 13, 2012 Report Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) Public domain release of the Candid Taylor sessions, with additions of tracks from Impulse and Verve. Probably sourced from prior cd releases. My personal thoughts: for me, not necessary. Correct. This is one of the public-domain labels that don't have access to original sources such as master tapes. Not for me, but others' mileage may vary. Edited March 13, 2012 by J.A.W. Quote
king ubu Posted March 13, 2012 Report Posted March 13, 2012 Also style wins over substance... or as Mr. Sangrey put it: their presentation suggests much more substance than there really is. Not that I know this very release, but I've seen some of them (and bought a couple, too... the Quincy and Mingus Birdland ones were just too good to pass - the Quincy makes a big mess of the liners, though, not quoting and unquoting properly). Anyway, the individual Candid discs seem to be in print, so there's no need for this crappy set. Quote
colinmce Posted March 13, 2012 Report Posted March 13, 2012 Yep.btw the Impulse! session is available on Mixed and the Newport is on on OOP Verve LPR CD. Quote
jlhoots Posted March 13, 2012 Report Posted March 13, 2012 I have all of this. Anyone find it strange that they use a Contemporary album cover? Excellent music though. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted March 13, 2012 Report Posted March 13, 2012 AND the Contemporary date was produced by Nat Hentoff but not included! Quote
JohnS Posted March 13, 2012 Report Posted March 13, 2012 Fabulous music, some of the most exciting piano jazz on record. Quote
7/4 Posted March 13, 2012 Author Report Posted March 13, 2012 Clearly I should just fill holes in my collection and skip this. These little boxes are so seductive, I almost loose my common sense....not that I have a lot anyway. Quote
JSngry Posted March 13, 2012 Report Posted March 13, 2012 It's not about common sense, it's about self-respect! Quote
7/4 Posted March 13, 2012 Author Report Posted March 13, 2012 This is true. I don't want to do anything I'll feel dirty and shamed about. Quote
colinmce Posted March 13, 2012 Report Posted March 13, 2012 You could pick up the 5 Candid CDs for $36.13 + shipping on Amazon. Quote
CraigP Posted March 13, 2012 Report Posted March 13, 2012 You could pick up the 5 Candid CDs for $36.13 + shipping on Amazon. Are all the Candid releases included in the Mosaic set? And was the Newport performance part of the "Masters of Modern Piano" 2 record set that also had Mary Lou Williams and others? Quote
JSngry Posted March 13, 2012 Report Posted March 13, 2012 I believe that Candid later released some (2?) takes that Mosaic didn't, for whatever reason. Yes to the Newport question. Same performance. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted March 13, 2012 Report Posted March 13, 2012 Not sure about the Mosaic/Candid comparison - the Candids have 26 selections. Quote
J.A.W. Posted March 13, 2012 Report Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) The Mosaic has 26 tracks: Air (5 takes) Number One (2 takes) This Nearly Was Mine (1 take) E.B. (1 take) Lazy Afternoon (1 take) Port of Call (2 takes) Davis (2 takes) O.P. (2 takes) Cell Walk for Celeste (3 takes) I Forgot (1 take) Section C (1 take) Jumpin' Punkins (2 takes) Things Ain't What They Used to Be (2 takes) Cindy's Main Mood (1 take) Edited March 13, 2012 by J.A.W. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted March 13, 2012 Report Posted March 13, 2012 The Mosaic has tracks: So did Fats Navarro and a bunch of folks from his generation. Quote
J.A.W. Posted March 13, 2012 Report Posted March 13, 2012 The Mosaic has tracks: So did Fats Navarro and a bunch of folks from his generation. Very funny. I inadvertently hit the "add reply" button when I was still editing my post - see my corrected post above. Quote
JSngry Posted March 13, 2012 Report Posted March 13, 2012 I thought I remembered Candid finding a cut or two that Mosaic didn't have..or was that with Mingus? It was with somebody... Quote
JETman Posted March 13, 2012 Report Posted March 13, 2012 I thought I remembered Candid finding a cut or two that Mosaic didn't have..or was that with Mingus? It was with somebody... 'Twas the Mingus. Quote
JSngry Posted March 13, 2012 Report Posted March 13, 2012 How many cuts was it, exactly? And what do I have to buy now to get them? Quote
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