Hardbopjazz Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) Now does anyone know if there is anything new on this reissue? I have these. I was told the sound is far better than what was issued in the past. Link to website Edited March 6, 2012 by Hardbopjazz Quote
jazzbo Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) There's some discussion in this thread: Sound is quite good. I wouldn't say that the sound is markedly better than the Mosaic or Columbia cds, different than the Mosaic, maybe a bit better. I've been told that the albums here that were put out by Wounded Bird sound quite improved in this set compared to the Wounded Bird versions. There is one additional hour (on a separate disc) of previously unreleased live material in the set, from the same shows as "Stepping Stone." Ands very good performances. Edited March 6, 2012 by jazzbo Quote
J.A.W. Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 It seems some remixing has been done. Mark Wilder did the remastering: credits. Quote
jazzbo Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) In the box set itself, those remixing credits are paired with the original recording engineer credits, and are listed in the credits for the individual lps/sessions. I think they may well represent re-mixing done for the original release, and not necessarily for the box set. But maybe. Interestingly in all but one instance I think the remix engineer and recording engineer are the same individual. Edited March 6, 2012 by jazzbo Quote
felser Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 In the box set itself, those remixing credits are paired with the original recording engineer credits, and are listed in the credits for the individual lps/sessions. I think they may well represent re-mixing done for the original release, and not necessarily for the box set. BTW, this is the daily special at PopMarket, $44.99 with free shipping, until noon. Grabbed me one. Quote
djcavanagh Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 This actually seems to be their regular price for this so it is still available at $44.99 with free worldwide shipping. I believe that the code FACEBOOK10 gets an extra 10% off. Quote
Clunky Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 it's a nice looking set but I'll stick the Mosaic CD set which is enough for me. Hadn't played the Mosaic set for some time. Spinning Disc 1 I'm really struck by how good it still sounds. Quote
king ubu Posted March 6, 2012 Report Posted March 6, 2012 I fell and caved and ordered... love the live material and albeit owning LP and Legacy CD of it, if there's more, I want! Quote
JohnS Posted March 7, 2012 Report Posted March 7, 2012 I'd love to have the extra live tracks but I have the Mosaic and Legacy cd. Can't really justify the expense. Quote
sidewinder Posted March 7, 2012 Report Posted March 7, 2012 I'd love to have the extra live tracks but I have the Mosaic and Legacy cd. Can't really justify the expense. That sums up my conclusion too. The LP and CD Mosaic sets will suffice ! Quote
Head Man Posted March 7, 2012 Report Posted March 7, 2012 I'd love to have the extra live tracks but I have the Mosaic and Legacy cd. Can't really justify the expense. That sums up my conclusion too. The LP and CD Mosaic sets will suffice ! My thoughts exactly. Quote
CJ Shearn Posted March 7, 2012 Report Posted March 7, 2012 What exactly was a remix engineer in those days? As I asked about the Dexter set, the booklet also lists remixing credits for each session. Were the original mixes unsatisfactory? Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted March 7, 2012 Report Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) Isn't the extra live disc all (or practically all) standards? I love Woody -- he's near the very top of my all-time-favorites list of trumpeters, maybe 2nd only to Miles -- but I have to confess that his treatment of standards are often hit-n-miss for me. If the extra disc is all or mostly standards, I think I may have to be content with my Mosaic and the expanded Stepping Stones (which I have both on CD and LP). Edited March 7, 2012 by Rooster_Ties Quote
skeith Posted March 7, 2012 Report Posted March 7, 2012 Isn't the extra live disc all (or practically all) standards? I love Woody -- he's near the very top of my all-time-favorites list of trumpeters, maybe 2nd only to Miles -- but I have to confess that his treatment of standards are often hit-n-miss for me. If the extra disc is all or mostly standards, I think I may have to be content with my Mosaic and the expanded Stepping Stones (which I have both on CD and LP). Good question. I can not figure out how to get the track listings from the Popmarket site. Has anyone figured this out? Quote
jazzbo Posted March 7, 2012 Report Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) Disc 3 is the "bonus disc" in the set. Here's the track list: It All Comes Back to You Watership Down Solar On Green Dolphin Street Days of Wine and Roses The first is an original by Onaje, and I'm not sure I'd consider "Watership Down" a standard,but the remaining three certainly are. Edited March 7, 2012 by jazzbo Quote
sidewinder Posted March 7, 2012 Report Posted March 7, 2012 Watership Down Would that be Art Garfunkel's 'Bright Eyes' tune? Can't even imagine Woody covering that one ! Quote
jazzbo Posted March 7, 2012 Report Posted March 7, 2012 Actually looking at the booklet it's a tune composed by bassist Clint Houston. Not a standard, an original jazz composition. Quote
JSngry Posted March 7, 2012 Report Posted March 7, 2012 As is "Solar", albeit a much more widely played one, and one of much less definitive "original"-ness. Quote
jazzbo Posted March 7, 2012 Report Posted March 7, 2012 Yes, of course. I consider it a jazz standard though I guess, it's played so much. Quote
JSngry Posted March 7, 2012 Report Posted March 7, 2012 It's funny, there's no standard as to what "standard" really means. You got "standards", "jazz standards", "jazz originals", on and on. And when something gets lyrics..."Stain Doll" falls into all categories! Quote
felser Posted March 7, 2012 Report Posted March 7, 2012 I'd love to have the extra live tracks but I have the Mosaic and Legacy cd. Can't really justify the expense. That sums up my conclusion too. The LP and CD Mosaic sets will suffice ! The capitalist in me sold off the Mosaic a number of years ago after CBS reissued Rosewood. I figured the rest would be reissued in short order, and boy was I wrong. Same thing on the Larry Young Mosaic. Quote
crisp Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 It's funny, there's no standard as to what "standard" really means. You got "standards", "jazz standards", "jazz originals", on and on. And when something gets lyrics..."Stain Doll" falls into all categories! It's a much-misused term. Jazz critics have a habit of referring to any song from outside jazz as a standard, even if it's relatively obscure. Another popular misnomer is "showtune". I'd say a standard is any song that gets performed so often that everybody recognises it. (Stain Doll? There are some mucky lyrics for that one ) Quote
bigtiny Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 I have the Mosaic set, but I caved and ordered this one too. I couldn't resist hearing some of the additional 'Stepping Stones' material. I've always suspected there was more stuff from those gigs lying around, and even with this release I'm betting there's still more. I want to hear it, and I don't care if he's playing standards or not....the Woody Shaw quintet of that time (Shaw, Jefferson, Onaje , Houston, and Lewis) was a nasty, scary, inspiring thing.... bigtiny Quote
T.D. Posted March 8, 2012 Report Posted March 8, 2012 Thanks! Just ordered it, and the above 10% coupon worked. Strange and hard-to-navigate website, but they have full-length sound samples, which is a real plus. Quote
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