Hod O'Brien - first name pronunication

[Hodge'sPodges]

I'd like to confirm the pronunciation of Hod O'Brien's first name.

Hawd (haw rhymes with law)

or

Hoed (hoe rhymes with low).

Thanks.

[John Tapscott]

I believe it's the first one you listed.

I recall that he made an album of Cole Porter tunes entitled something like "Hod and Cole." That kind of confirms it.

[J.A.W.]

As far as I know it's just "Hod" (short); sounds like the o in hot.

[JSngry]

I always thought it rhymed it with "rod".

[jazzbo]

It's rumored his next album will be titled "Hod is a God."

[Chuck Nessa]

or a pod.

[Hodge'sPodges]

Thanks to everybody. Seems clear it is "Hawd".

[AllenLowe]

I met him once and called him "Hod" as in "Hard" without the R. He did not seem to object.

[JSngry]

Thanks to everybody. Seems clear it is "Hawd".

"Hawd" rhymes with "pawed" and I don't think that's the consensus here, is it?

[Big Beat Steve]

Unless there is a special kind of dialect involved.

[Hodge'sPodges]

"Hawd" rhymes with "pawed" and I don't think that's the consensus here, is it?

Maybe I'm missing a subtle difference, but 'rod', 'god', 'pod', 'pawed', are rhymes, no?

Anyway, I mean what everyone is saying, I think. Like 'hog' but with a 'd' instead of 'g'.

For that matter, as in "Hodges" as in "Johnny Hodges".

Edited January 27, 2012 by Hodge'sPodges

[Big Beat Steve]

For that matter, as in "Hodges" as in "Johnny Hodges".

Sounds like it, because nobody would refer to him as "Johnny Hawdges" (though I have no doubts there are dialects where this would be the case, but could they be any yardstick?)

Edited January 27, 2012 by Big Beat Steve

[Hodge'sPodges]

nobody would refer to him as "Johnny Hawdges"

Of course not, since his name is not spelled that way, but if one wanted to make clear it is pronounced to rhyme with 'law' and not with 'low", then it seems to me clear enough to say:

Pronounced Hawjes (haw, as in "hee haw", rhymes with law), not Hoejes (hoe, as in the farm tool, rhymes with low).

That seems correct to me. "Haw" (rhymes with 'law') as opposed to "Hoe" (rhymes with 'low').

Edited January 27, 2012 by Hodge'sPodges

[king ubu]

Hawd and pawed and lawd has a longer and (correct me if I'm wrong, don't remember much about phonetics) more open "o", methinks?

[Hodge'sPodges]

Hawd and pawed and lawd has a longer and (correct me if I'm wrong, don't remember much about phonetics) more open "o", methinks?

In Merriam I see that 'pawed' and 'pod' do have a different vowell sound. On the other hand, if you say 'pawed' and 'pod' out loud, they sound very very close to me. I doubt that a native speaker would know the the difference without context in a sentence.

But, to be exact then, okay, it would be better to say:

'hod' rhymes with 'pod'

rather than

'hod' rhymes with 'pawed'.

Edited January 27, 2012 by Hodge'sPodges

[king ubu]

Yes - that's what I meant... was too lazy to dig up my Webster's.

[Big Beat Steve]

Sounded exceedingly obvious to me (though I am not a native speaker) that there IS a crucial difference between "pod" and "pawed".

So any "haw" or "paw" example appeared to be rather ill-chosen to me.

Just like JSngry said above:

"Hawd" rhymes with "pawed" and I don't think that's the consensus here, is it?

But then again, some lingos or dialects may interfere in a big way. Just look at the way some Britons mess the vowels of their English language around (sorry, no put-down intended, but sometimes it just too clearly noticeable):

The "o" in "London" is not pronounced as a very "open" vowel but comes out as "Lewndewn",

or the "hat" that you wear on your head is pronounced like "hut" (as in Pizza Hut), etc. etc.

[Pete C]

Sounded exceedingly obvious to me (though I am not a native speaker) that there IS a crucial difference between "pod" and "pawed".

So any "haw" or "paw" example appeared to be rather ill-chosen to me.

Just like JSngry said above:

"Hawd" rhymes with "pawed" and I don't think that's the consensus here, is it?

But then again, some lingos or dialects may interfere in a big way. Just look at the way some Britons mess the vowels of their English language around (sorry, no put-down intended, but sometimes it just too clearly noticeable):

The "o" in "London" is not pronounced as a very "open" vowel but comes out as "Lewndewn",

or the "hat" that you wear on your head is pronounced like "hut" (as in Pizza Hut), etc. etc.

I think people in the northwest U.S. might pronounce pod and pawed almost the same. When my friends from Oregon say lawyer I think they're saying liar.

I've always said Hod to rhyme with rod, which in Brooklyn also rhymes with hard. But maybe it's pronounced Hahd, to rhyme with the Boston pronunciation of card.

I don't know how anybody could have divined any consensus here.

[JSngry]

"Lawd" is a "typcial" 19th Century African-American dialectic spelling of "Lord", often used in spirituals and such, and is usually pronounced "lawed", like "flawed" w/o the f.

It comes down to the difference in sound between "aw" and "ah", "Hawd" vs "Hahd"

[ghost of miles]

Rhymes with "sod." He's come through here a couple of times... is a good friend of a colleague of mine here at the station and was in town last weekend, actually. I did a long interview with him last year that I'm hoping to turn into a Night Lights show at some point.

[Pete C]

I did a long interview with him last year

Did he talk about St. James Infirmary, the club in Greenwich Village he ran with Roswell Rudd in the mid-70s? I remember seeing Roswell, Hod, Sheila Jordan and Enrico Rava there in various combinations, usually with Wilbur Little on bass. I can't remember who would have been the house drummer. This was around the time of Flexible Flyer, but Altschul was more likely gigging with Rivers or Braxton in that period. Roswell's wife at the time, Moselle, was sort of the manager of the club.

[Lazaro Vega]

I've had the chance to hang out with Hod and his wife. His name is pronounced like "odd" with an H in front of it. H-odd. Great guy. Very beautiful interpreter of Tadd Dameron's music, amongst others. Roswell Rudd's "God Had A Girlfriend" is a piece about a club they used to be involved with.

[fasstrack]

As far as I know it's just "Hod" (short); sounds like the o in hot.

That's it. He (and Gene Allen) used to play Marshall Brown's Wed. session with us students. Hod, like Rod.