Django Reinhardt - Renown And Resistance

[Steve Gray]

New JSP Box available soon. Looking forward to this.

I knew there were some sessions not currently available in the JSP sets (e.g. the Larry Adler session) but I had no idea there was this much

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[jazzbo]

Well, there should be still more, isn't there about 46 discs worth total of Django? Anyway, there are some great recordings in this batch.

Edited January 26, 2012 by jazzbo

[Big Beat Steve]

And all this is missing from the Django CD set series on FREMEAUX ASSOCIES too?

Edited January 26, 2012 by Big Beat Steve

[jazzbo]

This is already available via worldsrecords.com

[paul secor]

Ted Kendall has already remastered some of this music for Frog in their Swing Sessions series.

Edited January 26, 2012 by paul secor

[brownie]

A personal opinion...

I find it odd to see the name of Django Reinhardt associated with war years Résistance.

Django's association with Resistance was non-existant during WWII. He had reasons of his own to keep clear of anti-nazi actions.

JSP would have been better inspired to find a more neutral name for this collection.

[Big Beat Steve]

A personal opinion...

I find it odd to see the name of Django Reinhardt associated with war years Résistance.

Django's association with Resistance was non-existant during WWII. He had reasons of his own to keep clear of anti-nazi actions.

JSP would have been better inspired to find a more neutral name for this collection.

Quite true AFAIK.

If I remember correctly, this book...

http://www.amazon.fr/Jazz-Societe-lOccupation-Regnier-G%C3%A9rard/dp/2296101348/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1327650296&sr=8-1

... has some interesting insights, including of some close-up contacts with members of the German occupants who were swing-inclined after all.

But I guess sensationalism-minded titles like this are all about "sales".

Edited January 27, 2012 by Big Beat Steve

[king ubu]

And all this is missing from the Django CD set series on FREMEAUX ASSOCIES too?

Well, maybe this here's really not by Django but by some Lincoln Center guy pretending to be (well, taking it home where it belongs to, isn't that so?)

Guess for sound issues JPS might be preferred by some (?) but as a happy owner of the three Frémeaux boxes (the three "saisons" boxes that is), I'm happy for not having to bother about Django reissues any more... got plenty of duplication already (the Mosaic, all the Jazz in Paris discs...)

[miles65]

Well, there should be still more, isn't there about 46 discs worth total of Django? Anyway, there are some great recordings in this batch.

L' integrale by Fremeaux consists of 20 2-CD set's. To the best of my knowledge 40 CD's is about it. Missing are two tracks from 1928 by Chaumel (Sur le place de l'opera' and 'E viva la Carmencita')and one with singer Leon Monoson ('Rest toujours toi meme' aka 'Stay as sweet as you are') and two unissued tracks from a Freddy Taylor session ('Mama don't alowe' and 'Blue drag') on wich the presence of Django is not certain.

And all this is missing from the Django CD set series on FREMEAUX ASSOCIES too?

No it's all there.

Edited January 27, 2012 by Stompy Jones

[jazzbo]

Thanks SJ. I think this means that JSP hasn't quite put it all out yet, right? But maybe more than enough for the fans that aren't quite fanatic enough for "L'Integrale."

[miles65]

Thanks SJ. I think this means that JSP hasn't quite put it all out yet, right? But maybe more than enough for the fans that aren't quite fanatic enough for "L'Integrale."

Fremeaux has a number of recordings without Django to proof he isn't on them. There are a number of pre war airchecks that are not on the JSP radiorecordings set. There are a number of late finds on vol. 20 that are not on JSP like the 2 previously unissued takes of 'Chinatown, my Chinatown'. And there are 15 recordings by family and pals to fill out the last CD.

[jazzbo]

Thank you sir.

[king ubu]

Fremeaux has a number of recordings without Django to proof he isn't on them. There are a number of pre war airchecks that are not on the JSP radiorecordings set. There are a number of late finds on vol. 20 that are not on JSP like the 2 previously unissued takes of 'Chinatown, my Chinatown'. And there are 15 recordings by family and pals to fill out the last CD.

Are you just talking of the current JSP or does that mean that JSP has, between all their boxes, now released all but the listed items from the whole Frémeaux sets? I never followed JSP's Django activities as I had laid eyes on the Frémeaux long before the three boxes appeared (and jumped at that chance quickly last year, although I haven't yet listened to much of it).

[miles65]

Fremeaux has a number of recordings without Django to proof he isn't on them. There are a number of pre war airchecks that are not on the JSP radiorecordings set. There are a number of late finds on vol. 20 that are not on JSP like the 2 previously unissued takes of 'Chinatown, my Chinatown'. And there are 15 recordings by family and pals to fill out the last CD.

Are you just talking of the current JSP or does that mean that JSP has, between all their boxes, now released all but the listed items from the whole Frémeaux sets? I never followed JSP's Django activities as I had laid eyes on the Frémeaux long before the three boxes appeared (and jumped at that chance quickly last year, although I haven't yet listened to much of it).

going through my files the following are also missing:

Germaine Sablon Ici l'on peche (alt take)

aug 1934 Tiger rag/After you've gone/Confessin' (non professional studio recording)

Freddy Taylor previously unissued Swanee river (The also previously unissued How come you do me like you do is one of the late finds).

Alix Combelle previously unissued What a diffrence a day made/The sheik of araby

Jean Sablon Cette Chanson et pour vous madame (alt take)

Bill Coleman Baby won't you please come home (alt take)

Larry Adler Lover come back to me & I got rhythm (alt takes)

I think the conclusion is: if Ted Kendall didn't have the 78 it is not included.

This covers al 7 JSP boxes.

Edited January 27, 2012 by Stompy Jones

[king ubu]

Amazing! I was far from realizing that JSP was doing such a fine job on Django!

Still, I love the extensively documented Frémeaux releases, so I don't question my choice to go that route... but props to JSP!

[medjuck]

Does anyone know which box set (or single cd) contains ""Flèche d'or", Django Reinhardt, January 30, 1952?

[king ubu]

http://www.amazon.fr/Collection-Jazz-Paris-Saint-Germain-prés/dp/B000068WT0/

[lipi]

Does anyone know which box set (or single cd) contains ""Flèche d'or", Django Reinhardt, January 30, 1952?

It's (also) on the JSP "Postwar Recordings: 1944-1953" set.

[miles65]

Does anyone know which box set (or single cd) contains ""Flèche d'or", Django Reinhardt, January 30, 1952?

It's also on Intergrale vol. 19

[Big Beat Steve]

In short, this seems to indicate that virtually all of Django's recordings (under his own name and as a sideman, right?) are now both on that Fremeaux 2-CD series and on those JSP box sets? Give or take a few isolated items. Did I get that right? So is it all about the price? How do they compare soundwise?

Those JSP box sets I have are all very good value for money but their fidelity is a bit of a mixed bag. The Chet Atkins Early Years set sounds almost too clean to me, whereas others with 20s source material (Paramount Masters, Charlie Poole) sound rather noisy. No surprise there but though I am VERY forgiving with reissues of 78s, I've heard better fidelity on some of those 20s reissues elsewhere. So how would the Django reissues rate compared to other reissues of that material?

Anybody out there famliar with the 8-LP Django VINYL box set issued on Affinity (Box 107) in the 80s? I am not going to do away with that but if targeted purchases from one of the above two series will allow me to fill gaps beyond that box set and other Django vinyl I have (e.g. from the Pathé Djangologie series), then ...

Edited January 28, 2012 by Big Beat Steve