Sam Rivers Trio - Live

[Justin V]

I've been enjoying this album for the last week. The liner notes don't mention Lewis Worrell at all, but he is credited on the back of the digipak. I could be mistaken, but I don't hear two basses at any point during the recording. Does Worrell take the place of Cecil McBee or Arild Anderson at some point? If so, on what tracks? Thanks.

[EKE BBB]

No mention of Worrell in Rick Lopez's Sam Rivers Sessionography.

[Justin V]

No mention of Worrell in Rick Lopez's Sam Rivers Sessionography.

Thanks for the link. It's a strange error, but now I'm curious to hear Worrell.

[David Ayers]

I was trying to figure out how this misattribution happened. I thought maybe it is because Worrell is on the Shepp Live in San Francisco which was a CD release in the same batch as the Rivers and the data migrated across (it can happen). His supposed presence on the CD sessions is often mentioned (!). I haven't been able to check the LP to see if that has correct info. It would be pretty luxurious trio-nomics to tour with two bassists and alternate them!

[Head Man]

He's not shown in the Bruyninckx Discography either.

I must admit that I've not been able to detect two basses on any of the tracks on "Trio". But thereagain I DO have cloth ears

[sonnymax]

...His supposed presence on the CD sessions is often mentioned (!)...

Yet another case where our "old friend" at AMG wrote his review with his eyes and not his ears.

[clifford_thornton]

Worrell dropped out of the music in the late 1960s, from what I understand, though he later resumed playing and I believe he's still with us. Really fine player.

He's not on the Rivers disc.

Edited January 13, 2012 by clifford_thornton

[Pete C]

Is it possible that Worrell was miscredited on an lp release of Hues? I seem to remember seeing his name associated with a Rivers recording years ago.

[David Ayers]

Is it possible that Worrell was miscredited on an lp release of Hues? I seem to remember seeing his name associated with a Rivers recording years ago.

I don't think so, but if I had access to my LPs I'd check. Can someone check please?

[jeffcrom]

Is it possible that Worrell was miscredited on an lp release of Hues? I seem to remember seeing his name associated with a Rivers recording years ago.

I don't think so, but if I had access to my LPs I'd check. Can someone check please?

Well, Worrell's name is not on the old single-disc Hues album. There was a two-LP issue of some of Rivers' trio stuff at one point - I don't have that.

I don't know whether this means anything, but in the notes to Crystals, Rivers thanks a long list of musicians who were not on the record but had performed or rehearsed his pieces. Worrell's name isn't there.

[David Ayers]

Is it possible that Worrell was miscredited on an lp release of Hues? I seem to remember seeing his name associated with a Rivers recording years ago.

I don't think so, but if I had access to my LPs I'd check. Can someone check please?

Well, Worrell's name is not on the old single-disc Hues album. There was a two-LP issue of some of Rivers' trio stuff at one point - I don't have that.

I don't know whether this means anything, but in the notes to Crystals, Rivers thanks a long list of musicians who were not on the record but had performed or rehearsed his pieces. Worrell's name isn't there.

Well I also have the 2-LP version, but not to hand. This is a bad thing to get obsessed about.

[Pete C]

This is a bad thing to get obsessed about.

Isn't that what we do?

[Leeway]

Are you talking about this double LP of Sam Rivers trio music?

Worrell is not mentioned on this double album either.

[jeffcrom]

Are you talking about this double LP of Sam Rivers trio music?

Worrell is not mentioned on this double album either.

That's the one I was thinking about.

[David Ayers]

That's it - thanks for checking.

[mikeweil]

Lewis Worrell was on a Robin Kenyatta session for Atlantic with two bass players, so maybe he had a reputation for functioning in such a context? Just my two cents ...

Edited January 14, 2012 by mikeweil

[six string]

Looking at that discography list I noticed he's credited on a Joe Cocker album. Does anyone know what song or songs?

[Pete C]

Looking at that discography list I noticed he's credited on a Joe Cocker album. Does anyone know what song or songs?

The song is "The Jealous Kind" from Stingray (1976), also on the Millennium collection. Sam is on soprano, though I'd never have guessed it was him.

from Wikipedia (cached, since the site is "black" today):

Personnel

* Joe Cocker - lead vocals, guitar

* Eric Clapton - guitar

* Cornell Dupree - guitar

* Steve Gadd - guitar, drums

* Eric Gale - guitar, arranger

* Albert Lee - guitar

* Gordon Edwards - bass

* Richard Tee - keyboards, organ, arranger, associate producer

* Sam Rivers - saxophone

* Felix "Flaco" Falcon - conga, percussion

* Patti Austin - backing vocals

* Bonnie Bramlett - backing vocals

* Lani Groves - backing vocals

* Gwen Guthrie - backing vocals

* Phyllis Lindsay - backing vocals

* Brenda White - backing vocals

* Maxine Willard - backing vocals

* Deniece Williams - backing vocals

* Tyrone Downey - arranger

* Peter Tosh - arranger

* Marco Aglietti - associate producer

* Baker Bigsby - engineer

* Neil Case - engineer

* Bernie Grundman - mastering

* Bob Cato - design

* Lee Jaffe - photography

[six string]

Thanks Pete. All of my Joe Cocker albums are early ones except I do have a British double lp that is a more modern best of so it might be on that one. I'll have to check it out and see.

[RickLopez]

Thanks guys... had never noticed this. Rivers going to press in 2020. 

Spent a full week with the RivBea Archive in Orlando last month.

Losing my mind here...

—R

http://www.bb10k.com/RIVERS.disc.html