EyeSpeech Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 I agree with that, if for no other reason than it's increasingly difficult to set aside a big enough block of time to fully digest a box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 The "Cellar Door" set is the "Cellar Door" set. And "Live Evil" is "Live Evil." One is an historical reissue, the other is an album. Two different animals, two different listening experiences, that use (some of) the same source material... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted January 4, 2012 Report Share Posted January 4, 2012 I didnt keep it. But I did hang on to Silent Way, Jack Johnson and Bitches Brew along with my boxes I never had JJ but have got two BB-boxes as well as the 2CD edition (which I got because of the darnded glue issue with disc one of the BB 4CD box). IASW, I gave away... same with OTC (alas - I know it's also in the box, but I kind of would like to have it separately nevertheless... vinyl would be even cooler though!) I can't imagine not having it, I have three copies. But I've always had it, bought it when it first was released. It's part of my history. Same here, albeit I don't go as far back... it was the first (I think) electric Miles album I ever owned (the old french 2CD version "Jazz Originals", produced by Henri Renaud) and I've loved it since I was... I guess 14? Got the digipack version and hung on to it after the Cellar Door box appeared. The original album is still mostly very good to my ears! The ones with Ndugu are not as wonderful, but worth hearing nonetheless. He's no J.D., but I really love what I've heard from the Fall 1971 European tour (Ndugu-Mtume-Alias are a great percussion section), and hope that's the basis of a box in the bootleg series to come. I really, really hope for a bootlegt set from the 1971 European tour, too! Love all those concerts and among the mass of ROIOs, it would be cool to have some sort of authoritative selection on real CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 Some day, I want to attend a party where Live Evil is played in full on the hi-fi. Cocktails preferred, but optional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 Just now, Late said: Some day, I want to attend a party where Live Evil is played in full on the hi-fi. Cocktails preferred, but optional. Ok...in 1982 or do, I played a Halloween party where they were handing out free mushrooms, all you could eat (and I could eat a lot). There were a lot of R&B-ish vamp tunes in this band and I had my soprano on me for the gig...so it wasn't too long before it started sounding like Live-Evil, so I went with that all night. It would take a lot to get me to lay off the tenor, but there is no tenor on Live-Evil. Probably as close as I'll ever come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, JSngry said: Probably as close as I'll ever come. (Now I wonder what cocktail TTK would recommend for such a party.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted March 30, 2022 Report Share Posted March 30, 2022 33 minutes ago, Late said: (Now I wonder what cocktail TTK would recommend for such a party.) Me too!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 Being one of my first jazz albums, I'll always like the original set ... including the narration! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 3 hours ago, BFrank said: Being one of my first jazz albums, I'll always like the original set ... including the narration! I can resemble this remark. This was my fourth Miles album, bought when first released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 On any given day, my favorite Miles album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 Fully agreed, but nowadays I prefer the box set version without the nasty edits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 19 hours ago, Late said: (Now I wonder what cocktail TTK would recommend for such a party.) Double prairie fires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 I don't think I could drink enough to get the desired (necessary?) hallucinoginic state for fullest enjoyment without vomiting at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 9 hours ago, jazzbo said: I can resemble this remark. This was my fourth Miles album, bought when first released. Fourth! Trying to remember what my first jazz record was ... maybe Red Clay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 My first three were records given to Peace Corps volunteers by Atlantic Records my father directed in Swaziland (Eswatini). One of the volunteers didn't like them and gave them to me: Thomas Bell and the Contemporary Jazz Quartet "Another Dimension," Leo Wright "Blues Shout," Slide Hampton "Sister Savlation," mono copies. I still have them. When I came back to the states I heard "Filles de Kilimanjaro" in the library and bought a copy of that, then "Bitches Brew," "Miles Davis at the Fillmore" and "Live/Evil." "In a Silent Way" was probably next. Then I started going further back into his catalog and following sidemen on Blue Note, Prestige etc. as well as moving forward into Weather Report, Return to Forever, Mahavishnu Orchestra etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliffpeterson Posted March 31, 2022 Report Share Posted March 31, 2022 When I was 12 I liberated Kind of Blue from my brother's lp collection. Had no idea what jazz was but knew I like that lp. Skip forward 6 years and I picked up my second jazz album-"Memphis Underground". still had no concept as to what jazz was-just liked the music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted April 1, 2022 Report Share Posted April 1, 2022 From the Live Evil party, I want to travel down the block and then enter a different residence and party, this one playing Dark Magus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 What album was released, circa 1971-72, in the stores after Live Evil? Was it Get Up With It? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, Late said: What album was released, circa 1971-72, in the stores after Live Evil? Was it Get Up With It? Probably On the Corner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 22 minutes ago, Guy Berger said: Probably On the Corner? That's what I remember Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 Yes, 'On The Corner', then 'Big Fun', then 'Get Up With It'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 15 hours ago, felser said: Yes, 'On The Corner', then 'Big Fun', then 'Get Up With It'. Maybe it’s more a personal taste thing than any objective assessment of quality, but IMHO Columbia’s post Bitches Brew issuance decisions were poorly prioritized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 Big Fun actually seemed "old fashioned" to me when it was released. Get Up With It certainly did not!!! 15 hours ago, felser said: Yes, 'On The Corner', then 'Big Fun', then 'Get Up With It'. In Concert was after OTC and before GUWI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 I've never liked Live/Evil - the editing choices strike me as just perverse and to no good effect. And there certainly are other parts of the catalog where I think Teo worked miracles and should have gotten composer credits. I have the Cellar Door box and prefer the sets without McLaughlin. On the Corner was the biggest WTF for me in that period. I wouldn't say I disliked it, just couldn't even begin to process it to form an opinion. Big Fun was a relief after that. Get Up With It has some great moments and a lot of variety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 49 minutes ago, JSngry said: Big Fun actually seemed "old fashioned" to me when it was released. Get Up With It certainly did not!!! In Concert was after OTC and before GUWI. You're right. 1 hour ago, Guy Berger said: Maybe it’s more a personal taste thing than any objective assessment of quality, but IMHO Columbia’s post Bitches Brew issuance decisions were poorly prioritized. Don't disagree with that. I like Jack Johnson and Get Up With It a lot, Like Big Fun a decent amount. Some of the other titles, such as At Fillmore, Live Evil, and On The Corner, not as much. But it's all very subjective, and my rankings on them run counter to much of the commonly accepted wisdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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