jtaylor Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 This is from a Cole/Basie/Ella engagement at The Paramount Theater, January 1957. Apologies if the pianist is obvious. Quote
JSngry Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Wild guess....Mal Waldron, somehow? Quote
Larry Kart Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Waldron wouldn't have been in that context. My guess is Ronnell Bright. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 My first thought was Jimmy Jones, but I don't think the face is "fat" enough. Quote
Larry Kart Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Image of Bright: http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Recordings-1956-58-Ronnell-Bright/dp/B002J0QGUM/ref=sr_1_9?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1320201540&sr=1-9 I dunno now, but for some reason he was my insistent first thought. Quote
JSngry Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Yeah, the context is off...I was going by the glasses mostly... Not sure about Ronnell Bright either, though. Nice long five-part intervioew with him hre< Quote
Late Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 The guy in the back (being whispered to) kind of looks like Sean Penn. Jimmy Jones looks a little like Wynton Kelly — at least in the liner note picture from Classics 1946-1947. Quote
jtaylor Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) Thanks for all of the suggestions. Though this is from four years later than the first picture, the guy on the left looks like it could be the same guy? Anyone know what Ernie Hayes looked like? Edited November 2, 2011 by jtaylor Quote
JohnS Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Another guess - Sir Charles Thompson Quote
Harold_Z Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Thanks for all of the suggestions. Though this is from four years later than the first picture, the guy on the left looks like it could be the same guy? Anyone know what Ernie Hayes looked like? It's not Ernie. Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Another guess - Sir Charles Thompson The pictures I've seen of him don't resemble that bespectacled person in the first pic, though. Quote
Larry Kart Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 The four years later shot gave me some ideas -- because it's in the studio with Cole, and Cole didn't play piano himself on most studio dates, maybe it's Cole's regular piano player, whose name understandably wouldn't have been publicized. But looking through the personnel of Cole recordings from those periods, the only names I come up are Jimmy Rowles, Lou Levy, Milt Raskin, John Towner Williams (yes, Mr. "Star Wars") et al., and it's clearly not one of those guys. There is Gerald Wiggins on some dates, but the guy in the photo looks even less like Wiggins than he does like Ronnell Bright. Quite unlikely that it was Sir Charles. He didn't do West Coast studio work. Quote
JSngry Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Maybe it's not a proper pianist. Maybe it's a horn player sitting down at the piano hitting a few chords. Quote
Larry Kart Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Maybe it's not a proper pianist. Maybe it's a horn player sitting down at the piano hitting a few chords. In the first photo, the look of alertness on his face and the fact that Cole is singing suggests he's a proper pianist. Quote
jtaylor Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) The four years later shot gave me some ideas -- because it's in the studio with Cole, and Cole didn't play piano himself on most studio dates, maybe it's Cole's regular piano player, whose name understandably wouldn't have been publicized. But looking through the personnel of Cole recordings from those periods, the only names I come up are Jimmy Rowles, Lou Levy, Milt Raskin, John Towner Williams (yes, Mr. "Star Wars") et al., and it's clearly not one of those guys. There is Gerald Wiggins on some dates, but the guy in the photo looks even less like Wiggins than he does like Ronnell Bright. Quite unlikely that it was Sir Charles. He didn't do West Coast studio work. The second photo is, I believe, from a session at Capitol's New York studio. Cole didn't have a regular piano player, at least not a guy who toured with him and played all of his dates the way Bill Miller, for instance, was Sinatra's pianist. All of the guys you mentioned did play on his west coast dates, Jimmie Rowles and before him Buddy Cole being the most frequent accompanists. Even John Williams played one or two sessions. Edited November 2, 2011 by jtaylor Quote
Larry Kart Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Again, just to be clear, the John Towner Williams who played piano on a good many Cole sessions (not just one or two), is the eventual film composer and conductor of the Boston Pops and not to be confused with John Williams the talented/gnarly pianist who was a sideman with Stan Getz and recorded on his own for EmArcy. West Coast or East Coast, Sir Charles was not a studio date/orchestra guy, AFAIK. Quote
jtaylor Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Posted November 2, 2011 Again, just to be clear, the John Towner Williams who played piano on a good many Cole sessions (not just one or two), is the eventual film composer and conductor of the Boston Pops and not to be confused with John Williams the talented/gnarly pianist who was a sideman with Stan Getz and recorded on his own for EmArcy. West Coast or East Coast, Sir Charles was not a studio date/orchestra guy, AFAIK. Larry: Not to get this too far off course, but John Towner Williams, according to AFM contracts, did in fact only play on two Cole recording sessions, one in 1957 and another the following year. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Absolutely not Sir Charles - doesn't look like him at all. The more I think about it the more I think it is Lovett. Quote
jtaylor Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Posted November 2, 2011 Thanks, Chuck. I can't seem to find any images of Lovett to comapare. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Thanks, Chuck. I can't seem to find any images of Lovett to comapare. Only one I can find Quote
Larry Kart Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Again, just to be clear, the John Towner Williams who played piano on a good many Cole sessions (not just one or two), is the eventual film composer and conductor of the Boston Pops and not to be confused with John Williams the talented/gnarly pianist who was a sideman with Stan Getz and recorded on his own for EmArcy. West Coast or East Coast, Sir Charles was not a studio date/orchestra guy, AFAIK. Larry: Not to get this too far off course, but John Towner Williams, according to AFM contracts, did in fact only play on two Cole recording sessions, one in 1957 and another the following year. Sorry -- you're right, one on 11/20/57 and one on 6/20/58. Must have been off my meds. Quote
jtaylor Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) Thanks, Chuck. I can't seem to find any images of Lovett to comapare. Only one I can find This Leroy Lovett? The guy in the ad (scroll up just a bit to see it) looks like the man in the picture you posted, but given his baldness in the 1964 ad, I'm not convinced it's the same guy from the Paramount shot. Edited November 2, 2011 by jtaylor Quote
Brad Posted July 23, 2019 Report Posted July 23, 2019 I did a reverse image search and received the following reply. Doesn’t really answer the question but perhaps someone may want to follow up. https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/entertainer-nat-king-cole-records-in-the-studio-with-an-news-photo/74258801 Quote
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