thedwork Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) just found out about this recent release today: Modern Music on Nonesuch from Kevin Hays and Brad Mehldau. Listen to the wonderful title track at this youtube link: Hays/Mehldau Modern Music totally digging this on first listen. all the tracks i've heard are fantastic ('bout half the record). Mehldau has tons of exposure, but Hays not so much. i've posted about him here in the past; particularly his Live At Smalls trio recording (tremendous!). hopefully this new recording will get people to check out Hays more and more. enjoy... Edited October 31, 2011 by thedwork Quote
kh1958 Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 He's good; I saw him (Kevin Hays) in a trio at the Kitano last Friday. That sure is a nice little club. A recording was being made. Quote
mikeweil Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 If you like multiple keyboards, and Hays, you should check out Bill Stewart's two CDs in a trio setting with Hays and Larry Goldings. The writing on that YouTube track reminds me of Geoffrey Keezer's writing - check out the CDs of the Contemporary Piano Ensemble. I saw Hays with Al Foster's Quartet - thought he was a bit abstract when I heard him on disc, but he was great to hear live. Quote
mikeweil Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 My first thought was that they might have listened to some "minimal music" - and what's on the record? An adaptation of Reich's Music for 18 Musicians ... Quote
AllenLowe Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 (edited) back in the early 1990s I did a little demo with Kevin, back in Connecticut - he sounded great, brilliantly talented guy, Mehldau is, too, but gets bogged down in some awful, New Age, narcissistic stuff. Zimmerli is a third Connecticut guy, was blowing lots of tenor back then. Now he's a bad but successful composer. that title track is pretty awful, sorry to say. I'm sure it will do well. Oy. Edited October 31, 2011 by AllenLowe Quote
Trumpet Guy Posted November 1, 2011 Report Posted November 1, 2011 back in the early 1990s I did a little demo with Kevin, back in Connecticut - he sounded great, brilliantly talented guy, Mehldau is, too, but gets bogged down in some awful, New Age, narcissistic stuff. Zimmerli is a third Connecticut guy, was blowing lots of tenor back then. Now he's a bad but successful composer. that title track is pretty awful, sorry to say. I'm sure it will do well. Oy. I often find you mean spirited; only your opinion, don't forget--no matter your associations with them decades ago or your own cranky beliefs in your own superior music. Quote
AllenLowe Posted November 1, 2011 Report Posted November 1, 2011 hmmmm......I didn't realize I created the impression that this was more than just my opinion; I used to represent the Youth of America, but those days are long gone. and yes, like Mehldau, Hayes, and most musicians, I do believe in my own music. Sorry, these are talented musicians; talented musicians don't always make talented music. Quote
Larry Kart Posted November 1, 2011 Report Posted November 1, 2011 I agree with Allen; this stuff is dishwater. A fair point of comparison I think would be a number of Poulenc's works for solo piano, his sonata for piano/four hands, and some of his chamber works (e.g. the Trio for Piano, Oboe and Bassoon), which leave Zimmerli in the dust when it comes to rhythmic energy, melodic invention, and harmonic wit, all within a similarly "light modern" context. Quote
AllenLowe Posted November 1, 2011 Report Posted November 1, 2011 interesting about Zimmerli, in that he was a Connecticut jazz prodigy, could really play when he was still in high school - I checked out his web site a while back and he seems to have become the "accessible classicist" (my term). Quote
JSngry Posted November 1, 2011 Report Posted November 1, 2011 Zimilar Zimmerli zimpressions here: Quote
AllenLowe Posted November 1, 2011 Report Posted November 1, 2011 wow - I had completely forgotten about that, Quote
JSngry Posted November 1, 2011 Report Posted November 1, 2011 Greatness allows itself its interludes, but irritation is forever constant! Quote
Trumpet Guy Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Fair enough-Guess I'm out here alone. Pat Zimmerli was a very interesting tenor player. Heard him a lot in Jeff Williams Quintet alongside Tim Ries(& Kevin Hays). So everybody hates his writing now(here); have you heard his knotty earlier writing style? I have 2 CDs from 1998-2000, "Expansion" and "Twelve Sacred Dances". These feature quartets with Ben Monder, Ethan Iverson, John Hollenbeck... Challenging listens! Sorry to stand up for fellow musicians Quote
thedwork Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Posted November 2, 2011 Fair enough-Guess I'm out here alone. Pat Zimmerli was a very interesting tenor player. Heard him a lot in Jeff Williams Quintet alongside Tim Ries(& Kevin Hays). So everybody hates his writing now(here); have you heard his knotty earlier writing style? I have 2 CDs from 1998-2000, "Expansion" and "Twelve Sacred Dances". These feature quartets with Ben Monder, Ethan Iverson, John Hollenbeck... Challenging listens! Sorry to stand up for fellow musicians you will be receiving a private message shortly... Quote
kh1958 Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 Fair enough-Guess I'm out here alone. Pat Zimmerli was a very interesting tenor player. Heard him a lot in Jeff Williams Quintet alongside Tim Ries(& Kevin Hays). So everybody hates his writing now(here); have you heard his knotty earlier writing style? I have 2 CDs from 1998-2000, "Expansion" and "Twelve Sacred Dances". These feature quartets with Ben Monder, Ethan Iverson, John Hollenbeck... Challenging listens! Sorry to stand up for fellow musicians I have no opinion, as I've never listened to him. Kevin Hayes was selling this CD at the Kitano, but I opted for a trio recording. Quote
thedwork Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Posted November 2, 2011 Fair enough-Guess I'm out here alone. Pat Zimmerli was a very interesting tenor player. Heard him a lot in Jeff Williams Quintet alongside Tim Ries(& Kevin Hays). So everybody hates his writing now(here); have you heard his knotty earlier writing style? I have 2 CDs from 1998-2000, "Expansion" and "Twelve Sacred Dances". These feature quartets with Ben Monder, Ethan Iverson, John Hollenbeck... Challenging listens! Sorry to stand up for fellow musicians I have no opinion, as I've never listened to him. Kevin Hayes was selling this CD at the Kitano, but I opted for a trio recording. did you get his Live At Smalls recording? if so, i'd say money very well spent. totally awesome recording... Quote
AllenLowe Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 trumpet guy - as I mentioned above, I played with both Hayes and Zimmerli, probably in the 1990s. I was standing up for them; for the good things I know they can do. Quote
Niko Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 for proof, see also your last post in that old thread :-) Quote
kh1958 Posted November 4, 2011 Report Posted November 4, 2011 Fair enough-Guess I'm out here alone. Pat Zimmerli was a very interesting tenor player. Heard him a lot in Jeff Williams Quintet alongside Tim Ries(& Kevin Hays). So everybody hates his writing now(here); have you heard his knotty earlier writing style? I have 2 CDs from 1998-2000, "Expansion" and "Twelve Sacred Dances". These feature quartets with Ben Monder, Ethan Iverson, John Hollenbeck... Challenging listens! Sorry to stand up for fellow musicians I have no opinion, as I've never listened to him. Kevin Hayes was selling this CD at the Kitano, but I opted for a trio recording. did you get his Live At Smalls recording? if so, i'd say money very well spent. totally awesome recording... I already had Live at Smalls (it's the reason I went to this concert). I picked up one called What Survives. Quote
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