Noj Posted December 13, 2011 Report Posted December 13, 2011 I'd find it entertaining if someone hit it about 450' to dead center. Quote
Dan Gould Posted December 13, 2011 Report Posted December 13, 2011 I'd find it entertaining if someone put a pitch in his ribs for acting like an ass after the ump gave him the gift strike call. Quote
Noj Posted December 13, 2011 Report Posted December 13, 2011 That too, Dan. All that fist-pumping and showboating equals fastball-at-your-ear-flap in MLB. Quote
Tim McG Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Posted December 14, 2011 Is that pitch even legal in America? It's an Eephus pitch. A gimmick, true...but legal nonetheless. How to throw an Eephus pitch. Quote
JSngry Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 Nope, sorry, not an Eephus. He releases the ball with his back to the plate, flips it in underhanded. It comes in like an Eephus, so if that's how/why you want to call it that, cool, but by the time the guy starts his forward motion to the plate, the ball has already left his hand. Quote
PHILLYQ Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 Nope, sorry, not an Eephus. He releases the ball with his back to the plate, flips it in underhanded. It comes in like an Eephus, so if that's how/why you want to call it that, cool, but by the time the guy starts his forward motion to the plate, the ball has already left his hand. El Duque, when he was with the Yanks, used an Eephus pitch once in a while. The ball went about 55-60 MPH with a HUGE arc. Most of the time the hitters looked foolish taking it or swinging. Quote
Tim McG Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Posted December 14, 2011 Nope, sorry, not an Eephus. He releases the ball with his back to the plate, flips it in underhanded. It comes in like an Eephus, so if that's how/why you want to call it that, cool, but by the time the guy starts his forward motion to the plate, the ball has already left his hand. It's not where you start, Jim...it's where you end up Quote
vajerzy Posted December 15, 2011 Report Posted December 15, 2011 Look again - it didn't slip out of his hand. He purposely threw it from behind, with his back turned to the plate, then followed through with a regular motion after the ball had already left his hand. Total deception! I know- it's intentional. I was trying to determine whether it was legal if it happened in a game. I think the pitcher is one of those trick pitchers- like a gimmick- kinda like Eddie Fehner (sp), the softball pitcher. Quote
vajerzy Posted December 15, 2011 Report Posted December 15, 2011 Is that pitch even legal in America? It's an Eephus pitch. A gimmick, true...but legal nonetheless. How to throw an Eephus pitch. An Eephus pitch is thrown with a natural motion with a perceptible arc- I remember reading Rip Sewell throwing one back in the 40s- don't remember who he played for. Didn't Bill Lee throw one? I tried it a few times pitching in an adult league- kinda like throwing a slowpitch softball pitch (6-12 arc)overhand- practically impossible to throw it for a strike. Quote
Quincy Posted December 15, 2011 Report Posted December 15, 2011 An Eephus pitch is thrown with a natural motion with a perceptible arc- I remember reading Rip Sewell throwing one back in the 40s- don't remember who he played for. Didn't Bill Lee throw one? Did he ever. In Game 7 against Tony Perez with the Red Sox up 3-0. He threw a couple of 'em, then a 3rd. 3-2 Red Sox. Quote
paul secor Posted December 15, 2011 Report Posted December 15, 2011 I remember Steve Hamilton throwing it when he was with the Yankees. He called it the Folly Floater. Quote
Tim McG Posted December 16, 2011 Author Report Posted December 16, 2011 OK. I don't get this: Keppinger the Hitter is non-tendered while Fontenot the Batting Slump Boy is signed...? Like the Giants have batters to burn? WTF is that? Quote
Dave James Posted December 16, 2011 Report Posted December 16, 2011 An Eephus is like a change-up except it goes maybe 10-12 feet in the air. Just like a change, you throw it with the same motion you use on a regular pitch and that's what screws up the batter's timing. At the MLB level I wouldn't want to throw more than about two of these to any one batter or fans would be looking for a souvenir someplace out on Waveland Avenue or in McCovey Cove. When I first started playing slo-pitch softball in 1974, there were no limits on the height of the arc of the ball. I could throw one maybe 20 feet in the air and still drop it behind home plate. They changed the arc rule two years later and limited the height to 12 feet from the point of release. Talk about taking the air out of my fun bag. Enough reminiscing. Here's a video of the 1946 All-Star game that was played at Fenway Park in Boston. The Rip Sewell footage begins at about the 1:40 mark. Quote
JSngry Posted December 20, 2011 Report Posted December 20, 2011 Rangers win the negotiation rights to Darvish. $51.7 mil. On so many levels, I do not know how to react, other than....DAMN! Quote
Dave James Posted December 20, 2011 Report Posted December 20, 2011 Rangers win the negotiation rights to Darvish. $51.7 mil. On so many levels, I do not know how to react, other than....DAMN! The classic, quintessential boom or bust scenario. At the very least, this is going to be really interesting. Quote
JSngry Posted December 20, 2011 Report Posted December 20, 2011 Seeing how he handles pitching in 100+ degree summer heat, that will definitely be interesting... Quote
Tim McG Posted December 20, 2011 Author Report Posted December 20, 2011 Seeing how he handles pitching in 100+ degree summer heat, that will definitely be interesting... It's not terribly cool and dry in Osaka either, Jim. Quote
JSngry Posted December 20, 2011 Report Posted December 20, 2011 Never been there, so I don't know. But if you're saying that he's better prepared to handle the Texas summers than most Americans, you're making me already happier! Quote
Tim McG Posted December 21, 2011 Author Report Posted December 21, 2011 Never been there, so I don't know. But if you're saying that he's better prepared to handle the Texas summers than most Americans, you're making me already happier! I've never been to either Texas or Japan, but from what I checked, Osaka's summers are hot, muggy, hot and muggier. He'll fit right in. Quote
david weiss Posted December 21, 2011 Report Posted December 21, 2011 I've spent Summers in Texas and Japan and I have to say Japan is much worse. Not hotter per se (and certainly nothing like this past Summer in Texas) but way more humid while being pretty hot as well. I never sweat as much as I did walking around Tokyo in July. So if this is your worry, I think he'll be OK...... Quote
JSngry Posted December 21, 2011 Report Posted December 21, 2011 It's one of my worries...the other being the whole "it's a different game here" thing...but with both Maddux brothers in tow now, there's room for at least some cautious optimism. Quote
Chalupa Posted December 21, 2011 Report Posted December 21, 2011 Philly baseball scribe(and member of the Hall of Fame) Bill Conlin has been accused of molestation by 4 people. Unbelievable, especially in light of his recent columns blasting Jerry Sandusky. http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20111220_Four_say_Philly_Daily_News_writer_Bill_Conlin_sexually_abused_them_as_children.html?c=r Quote
Quincy Posted December 21, 2011 Report Posted December 21, 2011 Hope you're right! Fret some more. Most of his home games are played in a dome. Time to raise a roof over Arlington! Quote
JSngry Posted December 21, 2011 Report Posted December 21, 2011 Hell, I'm fretful by nature, so no problem! Quote
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