jazzbo Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 I think even Sony/Columbia must consider the recent "Miles Davis Bootleg Vol. 1" a success. I think it's the most promising jazz reissue in some time, because it could be an excellent beginning to a really beneficial series for the fan and collector. If anyone has any inside information or insight into what will be next in the series, please share. And here's a good place to list hoped-for future issues. And let's have fun and guess what may be next. I have no insight or information about upcoming volumes--or even a confirmation that this WILL BE a continuing series. Assuming (hoping!) that there will be forthcoming volumes, my guess is that the next will be a collection of 1973 European recordings. As it seems possible future volumes may be planned to include DVD concerts, and there are several televised appearances from this tour that could be cleaned up and made available, just as we had in the first volume. And there are a number of good recordings of the concerts that could be remastered and made available improving the versions that collectors may have. Seems tailor-made for a second volume, moving into another decade, offering significant benefit for 'lectric Miles collectors and also significant quality sonic potential and potential visual interest to perhaps attract a new fan and collector or three. But the great thing about this series is I'm liable to look forward to any band or timeframe they choose. Anyone else have any info, guesses, wishes? Quote
7/4 Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 Miles Davis Quintet November 3, 1969 at the Salle Pleyel in Paris France video. This is the band with Wayne, Corea, Holland and DeJohnette. Quote
jazzbo Posted October 30, 2011 Author Report Posted October 30, 2011 That would be great. I didn't know about that video. Combine this with the Antibes '69 performances (both) and maybe one or two of the other "Lost Quintet" European concerts---dynamite Volume. Quote
brownie Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 From a very personal point of view, it would be a very nice idea to reunite those French concerts from 1967 and 1969 in audio and video releases. I attended several of them (Paris 1967, Antibes-Juan les Pins, Paris and Bordeaux 1969). Quote
John L Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 I think that the next set should be of the "Lost Quintet" in Europe: 1969. There are plenty of good sounding tapes of that amazing band that still hasn't received anything close to its due in official releases. So far, there is only the March, 1970 Filmore East set with Airto. Right? Quote
GregK Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 The video is interesting, but I doubt that I will watch the DVDs more than once or twice. I really hope that they are not limiting themselves to just concerts with associated video. Sure, include a DVD when appropriate, but don't pass over other shows/eras just because they were not filmed. Quote
7/4 Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 I like the video, because it let's me see these guys playing in the '60s. Before Vol. 1, I didn't see much or any Miles from that time. Quote
jazzbo Posted October 30, 2011 Author Report Posted October 30, 2011 I'm hoping for DVD inclusion as well. The audio is actually better, more resolution, that's one reason. And I too like to watch the performances. One can always turn the monitor off and listen to the audio (I confess I do that a lot!) I think adding the DVD increases it's attraction for many. Quote
Peter Johnson Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 My (almost) two year old daughter Olivia was completely transfixed by the DVD from Vol. 1; she literally sat and watched for the entire 53 minutes, and if any of you has (or once had!) a 2-year-old, you'll know that's an extraordinary proposition. Therefore, my response is: anything with a corresponding DVD!!! Quote
mjzee Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 I wonder whether it will be an "official" version of this release. Certainly has the name power: Quote
JSngry Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 The Lost Quintet material deserves a full-frontal box that contains everything, even the material of lesser audio quality. That band took an amazing odyssey. Quote
jazzbo Posted October 30, 2011 Author Report Posted October 30, 2011 I wonder whether it will be an "official" version of this release. Certainly has the name power: I REALLY doubt it as that is an official release, and has been available through Dragon and DIW for a LOOOOOOOONG time. The Lost Quintet material deserves a full-frontal box that contains everything, even the material of lesser audio quality. That band took an amazing odyssey. I agree but I don't think that will happen from Columbia unless it's in a series of these volumes of "bootlegs." I can't imagine them putting out a "complete box." I'd love it, but I can't imagine it. Quote
JSngry Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 I can imagine it just fine. I just won't expect it! Quote
Pete C Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 I wonder whether it will be an "official" version of this release. Certainly has the name power: That's another great tour with lots of recorded concerts. Will we see sets for 1960 (the Coltrane & Stitt tours), 1969, 1971 & 1973? Afaik, the only video to go with a 1960 set would be the studio show with Robert Herrick. It turns out there's a bunch of video from 1969 I didn't know about until I checked Youtube. How much material is out there from 1964? I know the Milan video. The DVD for the '67 set was easy for them since it was produced 2 years ago for the complete original albums set. And, of course, the Copenhagen video from '69 was in the Bitches Brew rerelease. A complete and well annotated '50s broadcast performances set would be welcome. By the way, was Miles in Europe originally released when Miles was on the bench? Quote
marcello Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 Because I had the opportunity to lurk around in some of the Sony media files recently, I think there may be something coming up regarding any live concerts of Miles/Gil Evans. I saw a few photos of the 1961 concert there ready to be used in some package. Quote
jazzbo Posted October 30, 2011 Author Report Posted October 30, 2011 Interesting. There's that lost one from California that gets talked about, that would be an amazing release.Paul Tingen says that he's been shown that the next one will be "electric" on his blog. Quote
Pete C Posted October 30, 2011 Report Posted October 30, 2011 Paul Tingen says that he's been shown that the next one will be "electric" on his blog. I guess either '71 or '73. Quote
BFrank Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 I'm still waiting for someone to find some previously unknown Miles/Jimi jams. Quote
mracz Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 The Lost Quintet material deserves a full-frontal box that contains everything, even the material of lesser audio quality. That band took an amazing odyssey. Yes, for me this should be the priority. The band never recorded in the studio (except for half of Filles de Killimanjaro, or did that have Tony on drums? Can't remember), there's the one Japanese only from Antibes, and the rest is bootlegs, often in excellent sound (the Andorrans have a couple of these out. This is truly the Lost Quintet, and as Jim says, the odyssey is amazing, and hearing them night after night over a period of weeks is one of the essential pleasures of modern jazz. One of the best documented examples there is of the music developing on the bandstand before our ears. Having said that, there's more good stuff from the 1967 tour, the 1964 European tour, 1971 and 1973 and so on, but for me the 69ers win hands down. I don't expect it, but who knows, I would never have imagined the excellent and reasonably priced Bootleg box we've just had. I think the relatively small size (3CDs + DVD) might reflect a toe-in-the-water approach. Let's hope that the sales encourage Sony to keep the stuff coming... Quote
GregK Posted October 31, 2011 Report Posted October 31, 2011 I'm hoping for DVD inclusion as well. The audio is actually better, more resolution, that's one reason. And I too like to watch the performances. One can always turn the monitor off and listen to the audio (I confess I do that a lot!) I think adding the DVD increases it's attraction for many. Right, but what I'm saying (and what everyone seems to miss when I say it) is that I really hope future releases aren't limited to strictly those concerts that were filmed. If it's a good show but there isn't video, so what, release it anyway. Quote
Quincy Posted November 1, 2011 Report Posted November 1, 2011 (edited) I don't know whether these would be part of the "Bootleg Series" or something else, or ignored altogether. But when Legacy asked the top vote getting (one could allocate points in any manner) Miles projects were: Complete Live In Japan 1975 (3446 votes) Complete "At Fillmore" 1970 (2545) Complete Columbia 1980s sessions (588) '60s live material (Juan-les-Pins, and anything w/ the 60s quintet (336) - by GregK Either GregK has great pull w/ Sony/Legacy or they're using different measures to determine what to release. I'm easy, there's lots of stuff I'd love to see, be it w/ Coltrane, the transition years or more of the '60s Quintet, Lost Quintet, '75...Lack of booklet pocket aside, I still am amazed at what a generous release in terms of material & price Bootleg 1 was! Edited November 1, 2011 by Quincy Quote
7/4 Posted November 1, 2011 Report Posted November 1, 2011 Right, but what I'm saying (and what everyone seems to miss when I say it) is that I really hope future releases aren't limited to strictly those concerts that were filmed. If it's a good show but there isn't video, so what, release it anyway. Quote
JSngry Posted November 1, 2011 Report Posted November 1, 2011 Japan 75 could be interesting...as would post-Japan 75... Quote
jazzbo Posted November 2, 2011 Author Report Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) I keep thinking about July '73 as the next likely. The Montreux show is now out on DVD, so that's an easy prep (that's part of why we had '67 last time perhaps, the DVD had been prepared for the Complete Albums box set?), It's long enough to barely be a disc of its own if there's no other video suitable. If there are some professionally recorded concerts from this tour to fill tow or three cds, that would make a really nice package. Known appearances on that tour: July 6: Temple of Jupiter, Baalbeck July 8: Montreux Jazz Festival July 10: Rainbow Theatre, London July 11: Olympia Theatre, Paris July 16: Parco delle Naiadi, Pescara July 17: Teatro Romano, Verona July 20: La Pinède, Juan-les-Pins Edited November 2, 2011 by jazzbo Quote
John L Posted November 2, 2011 Report Posted November 2, 2011 (edited) I keep thinking about July '73 as the next likely. The Montreux show is now out on DVD, so that's an easy prep (that's part of why we had '67 last time perhaps, the DVD had been prepared for the Complete Albums box set?), It's long enough to barely be a disc of its own if there's no other video suitable. If there are some professionally recorded concerts from this tour to fill tow or three cds, that would make a really nice package. Known appearances on that tour: July 6: Temple of Jupiter, Baalbeck July 8: Montreux Jazz Festival July 10: Rainbow Theatre, London July 11: Olympia Theatre, Paris July 16: Parco delle Naiadi, Pescara July 17: Teatro Romano, Verona July 20: La Pinède, Juan-les-Pins That would be interesting, indeed. Of those dates, I only have Montreux and Paris. Do the others circulate? There is also the dynamite show from Tokyo on June 19 that would be worth considering. Edited November 2, 2011 by John L Quote
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