paul secor Posted September 29, 2011 Report Posted September 29, 2011 Don't know how true this is, but somewhere - probably in a liner note - I recall Orrin Keepnews writing that Bill Grauer made a long term deal with Reeves Sound Studios because he got a good deal with them. As I say, I don't know whether this is true or not. Quote
brownie Posted September 29, 2011 Report Posted September 29, 2011 Some of my favorite late period Budd Johnson is found on this one: edit - just checked and this is the same record that BeBop listed under a different title and label in post #6. I'll second that. Great record! (I have that Black & Blue vinyl! Quote
MomsMobley Posted September 29, 2011 Report Posted September 29, 2011 (edited) FACT: ** I ** have the exact same panda shirt as Budd! FACT: All the Budd & Earl lps are near-essential; everyone should have at least two. FACT: Budd Johnson's son Budd Johnson Jr was doo-wop singer, percussionist, and a career criminal, did hard time for armed robbery. FACT: Budd Johnson's grandson-- Budd Jr's son-- Albert Johnson, better known as Prodigy was one of the greatest rappers ever and is still among the most charismatic (he lost some of his virtuoso technique to age, illness-- esp. sickle cell anemia-- misdirection). See-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP0wsET8__Y QUIZ: One free beer to any Organaut who recognizes the piano loop above without looking it up; this was a long-time mystery btw but it ** is ** by canonical jazz musician. (Thus it's not by always dull Jason Moran, the over-acclaimed woeful sap.) BONUS 1: Prodigy's mother was Frances Collins, of later Crystals interest, no shit-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESvs4LDQ6cs REM DOESN'T CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE BONUS 2: O.V. Wright did not die in vain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9tMscnqE90 Some of my favorite late period Budd Johnson is found on this one: edit - just checked and this is the same record that BeBop listed under a different title and label in post #6. I'll second that. Great record! (I have that Black & Blue vinyl! Edited September 29, 2011 by MomsMobley Quote
thomastreichler Posted September 29, 2011 Report Posted September 29, 2011 Budd Johnson can be heard to good advantage on Benny Carter's "Live And Well In Japan", a Pablo album of a 1977 live concert featuring (besides Carter and Johnson) Joe Newman, Cat Anderson, Britt Woodman, Cecil Payne, Nat Pierce, Mundell Lowe, George Duvivier and Harold Jones. I see two albums with that title and different tracklists - can someone explain ... What are the (different) tracklists on these albums? As far as I see these are just two different editions of the same album. Quote
thomastreichler Posted September 29, 2011 Report Posted September 29, 2011 I'm glad I bought any of the JPJ Quartet LPs when I spotted one of them - a very underrated band, playing excellently and not simply a retro swing group, much more than that. These guys were playing! Same for any Hines Quartet recordings with Johnson. The complete(?) JPJ Quartet recordings (studio and live) have been (re)issued on Storyville. Quote
mikeweil Posted September 29, 2011 Report Posted September 29, 2011 What are the (different) tracklists on these albums? As far as I see these are just two different editions of the same album. 1. Blue Nun 2. Nermus 3. Village Blues 4. Azure 5. Coming Home 6. Concepts In Blue 7. Mohawk ... but I also saw this with the same tracklist as the other: 1. Squatty Roo 2. Tribute to Louis Armstrong: When It's Sleepy Time Down South/Confe ... 3. Them There Eyes 4. It Don't Mean a Thing (If It Ain't Got That Swing) Quote
thomastreichler Posted September 29, 2011 Report Posted September 29, 2011 What are the (different) tracklists on these albums? As far as I see these are just two different editions of the same album. 1. Squatty Roo 2. Tribute to Louis Armstrong: When It's Sleepy Time Down South/Confe ... 3. Them There Eyes 4. It Don't Mean a Thing (If It Ain't Got That Swing) That is the one I recommended. Quote
mikeweil Posted September 29, 2011 Report Posted September 29, 2011 Haven't heard it for a good while, but my memory is that the Riverside four-trumpet date was a classic example of a less than it should have been/could have been Orrin Keepnews production. Edit: I see now that the date was Cannonball's idea but don't know whether Keepnews was in the studio. Listening to a track on the Internet, I hear what I recall hearing before -- rather airless too close-up sound (on Budd and bassist Joe Benjamin in particular) and less than ideal drum work from Herbie Lovelle. Spinning this right now - I very much prefer that close recording to any artificial reverb etc. .... the band is standing right in my living room. Lovelle ist staying out of the way, that's all, IMHO ... I like this album a lot. They audibly had a ball recording it. Quote
thomastreichler Posted September 29, 2011 Report Posted September 29, 2011 There is also this one: Ben Webster And Associates (Verve) featuring Ben Webster, Coleman Hawkins and Budd Johnson Quote
Pete C Posted September 29, 2011 Report Posted September 29, 2011 New York in the '70s was kind of amazing - when I think of all the musicians who were still around, like Dickey Wells, Earl Warren, Eddie Durham, Sam Price, yikes, it was like a moveable enclyclopedia of jazz. I was at Jimmy Ryan's one night in the middle '70s, maybe, and who walked by but Budd Johnson with his friend Al Sears. Wish I had a video cam in those days. Yeah, I saw Buck Clayton when he was still playing trumpet at a midtown New Orleans-style restaurant called Crawdaddy. And the one time I saw Jo Jones was in '77 at the West End. Allen, did you go to the piano places on Bleecker? Frank Kimbrough told me he used to play at the Surf Maid. I don't remember him, but I did see Joanne Brackeen and Jill McManus there, and lots of the great but virtually unknown Lance Hayward at the Village Corner. In those days you could sit at the bar at the The Top of the Gate all night for no cover (for the likes of Mingus and Blakey) and get buybacks every third or fourth drink. Thankfully, one could drink at 18 back then. And, boy did I drink. Quote
BillF Posted September 29, 2011 Report Posted September 29, 2011 Worth mentioning Budd's solos on Dizzy's "The Champ" and Basie at Birdland. Quote
king ubu Posted October 1, 2011 Report Posted October 1, 2011 two part article on Budd Johnson by Frank Driggs (yeah, I know...) from Jazz Review (Nov 1960 / Jan 1961): http://jazzstudiesonline.org/?q=node/1115 http://jazzstudiesonline.org/?q=node/1123 or straight to the PDFs if that's what you prefer: http://www.jazzstudiesonline.org/files/JREV3.9FULL.pdf http://www.jazzstudiesonline.org/files/JREV4.1Complete.pdf Quote
mikeweil Posted October 2, 2011 Report Posted October 2, 2011 That Quincy Jones 4 CD set recently issued has good sound, and enough Johnson solos to justify a purchase - if you want to know exactly how many solos there are, you will have to wait until this evening. Turns out Johnson plays only on te first two discs, Paris, Belgium, and Gothenburg. Quote
brownie Posted October 3, 2011 Report Posted October 3, 2011 Splendid (alas, much too brief ) solo from Budd Johnson on the 1942 Earl Hines recording of 'Skylark' with Billy Eckstine! Quote
jojazz Posted October 5, 2011 Report Posted October 5, 2011 No one has mentioned Budd's "Off the Wall" 1964 release on Argo (rare! Japanese CD reissue). Budd, tenor sax Joe Newman,tp. Al Dailey,p. Richard Davis or George Duvivier,b. Grady Tate,d. This an excellent date, rather modern in feel, with great tenor playing, revealing all of Budd's special talents in one package. My personal favorite. Highly recommended! Quote
king ubu Posted October 6, 2011 Report Posted October 6, 2011 Listened to the weird Terry albuma again... I can kind of live with the tunes by now, and of course the solo work is as fine as is to be expected with such players involved! The tunes really aren't much though... they don't swing, they're corny as hell... reminds me of the crap I had to play while in the army band... Quote
Peter Friedman Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 Listened to this cd a few weeks ago and see it has not been mentioned. Charlie Shavers / Budd Johnson - Live - Black & Blue Recorded in France in 1970 with Andre Persiany, Roland Lobiligeois, and Oliver Jackson A very nice date. Quote
Clunky Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 No one has mentioned Budd's "Off the Wall" 1964 release on Argo (rare! Japanese CD reissue). Budd, tenor sax Joe Newman,tp. Al Dailey,p. Richard Davis or George Duvivier,b. Grady Tate,d. This an excellent date, rather modern in feel, with great tenor playing, revealing all of Budd's special talents in one package. My personal favorite. Highly recommended! this is a great date , I recently picked this up on LP Quote
king ubu Posted October 7, 2011 Report Posted October 7, 2011 I'd love to hear that Argo w/Joe Newman! But there's another Argo (721) that I'm spinning now: Novelty stuff, fer sure - but good fun! The band behind Budd's tenor is: Joe Venuto (mar/vib), Hank Jones (p), Everett Barksdale & Kenny Burrell (g), Milt Hinton (b), Osie Johnson (d), Willie Rodriguez (d). The tracklist includes the theme from "Touchez pas au grisbi", "Under Paris Skies", and more similar fare... lovely! Quote
Lazaro Vega Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 Budd Johnson is featured tonight on Jazz From Blue Lake in celebration of his 101st birthday. Wish we had all the material discussed in this thread! Quote
Lazaro Vega Posted December 14, 2011 Report Posted December 14, 2011 Also worth checking out is Lionel Hampton's Till Tom Special on RCA and the Hines Orchestra's Call Me Happy also from '40. (Moms -- I have no idea on the piano loop). Quote
paul secor Posted December 21, 2011 Report Posted December 21, 2011 Was listening to Claude Hopkins' Swing Time record earlier today and "Crying My Heart Out for You" began. WHOA! BUDD JOHNSON! SUCH A SOUND! Quote
mjzee Posted July 3, 2012 Report Posted July 3, 2012 I'm enjoying this now. Some of it sounds very Blue Note-ish: Quote
Swinging Swede Posted December 25, 2012 Report Posted December 25, 2012 What are the (different) tracklists on these albums? As far as I see these are just two different editions of the same album. 1. Blue Nun 2. Nermus 3. Village Blues 4. Azure 5. Coming Home 6. Concepts In Blue 7. Mohawk ... but I also saw this with the same tracklist as the other: 1. Squatty Roo 2. Tribute to Louis Armstrong: When It's Sleepy Time Down South/Confe ... 3. Them There Eyes 4. It Don't Mean a Thing (If It Ain't Got That Swing) The first track list is from another but unrelated Pablo album, namely J.J. Johnson's Concepts In Blue. The Johnson album was reissued in the OJC series as OJCCD-735-2 and the Carter album as OJCCD-736-2, so the close numbers are probably what has caused the mix-up. Quote
sgcim Posted December 26, 2012 Report Posted December 26, 2012 I'm glad I bought any of the JPJ Quartet LPs when I spotted one of them - a very underrated band, playing excellently and not simply a retro swing group, much more than that. These guys were playing! Same for any Hines Quartet recordings with Johnson. The complete(?) JPJ Quartet recordings (studio and live) have been (re)issued on Storyville. I used to catch the JPJ Quartet live a lot in NY back in the 70s. I have fond memories of Budd's ecstatic version of "If I Had You". I've never heard a tenor sound like that, before or since. Quote
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