kh1958 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 Current amazon ranking: Amazon Best Sellers Rank: #4 in Music (See Top 100 in Music) #1 in Music > Blues #2 in Music > Rock #4 in Music > Pop Quote
fasstrack Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 The World's Foremost Authority... Quote
7/4 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 Feelin' ya, dog. Would that I COULD sleep what with 13-hour shifts and everything else I gotta do, including show my mug on the scene and keep my phoney-baloney chops. I'm sure you can relate. Brin4ng it back to the theme of it being good if a musician or any person makes it. It gives me hope. So let's stick together. And beat up the f-ing Irish. The Foremost Authority... I hear ya. I made my 40 hours by 9pm Wed night. Everything from here on is OT for me. Quote
fasstrack Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 One thing, KH: they were giving that CD as a WBGO FM gift for subcribng. Asses hn seats. Checks maf. WTF, beats the alterative.. Quote
AllenLowe Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 funny Bloomfield/Clapton story - Barry Goldberg met Clapton, who had a rep in those days for being a cold fish, for the first time, back-stage at some concert - afterwards Goldberg went up to Bloomfield and said "I thought everybody said what an un-friendly guy Clapton was. We just had a really nice, warm conversation. He couldn't have been nicer." Bloomfield answered: "Oh, that's because I told him you only had 6 months to live." Quote
kh1958 Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 One thing, KH: they were giving that CD as a WBGO FM gift for subcribng. Asses hn seats. Checks maf. WTF, beats the alterative.. I wouldn't take a free copy myself, but I thought its ranking as No. 4 in Pop was kind of surprising. Quote
Dan Gould Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 Might scare people to consider this but this roundly abused disc is going to expose more people to jazz (or should that be "jazz"?) as Ken Burns ever dreamed. Quote
cih Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 Do these things have a trickle down effect? When Hugh Laurie’s blues release went out he had tons of prime time media exposure and people were saying it was good for popularizing blues and might ultimately get lesser known musicians some exposure... I have a cousin who’s a classical musician who plays early music on various stringed instruments - lute, theorbo etc... she was pretty unmoved when Sting stepped onto the scene a few years ago (again getting mass exposure when he picked up a lute) - I don’t think her audience has exploded since Quote
JSngry Posted September 15, 2011 Author Report Posted September 15, 2011 Pretty sure that the way these things usually work is that the project gets the most exposure, then the awareness that the music exists, then...not too much more as far as actually expanding audiences past the immediate project. Quote
Larry Kart Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 funny Bloomfield/Clapton story - Barry Goldberg met Clapton, who had a rep in those days for being a cold fish, for the first time, back-stage at some concert - afterwards Goldberg went up to Bloomfield and said "I thought everybody said what an un-friendly guy Clapton was. We just had a really nice, warm conversation. He couldn't have been nicer." Bloomfield answered: "Oh, that's because I told him you only had 6 months to live." As the interesting/disturbing oral history book about Bloomfield -- "Michael Bloomfield: If You Love These Blues" -- makes clear, he was a notorious, free-form (if arguably often playful) liar. Quote
mikeweil Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 ..... and people were saying it was good for popularizing blues and might ultimately get lesser known musicians some exposure... That's what they always say, but I've never seen it happen. Quote
Hot Ptah Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 News Story dated September 15, 2018: Jazz Albums Hold Down Top Six Spots on Charts In a development which has become so commonplace as to become wearisome, jazz albums continue to hold down the top six places in all of the major music sales charts. The top ten albums this week are: 1. Allen Lowe/Matthew Shipp/Various Others--"Maine, My Maine, The Home I Love So Well" 2. Anthony Braxton--"63 Quartet Variations on '#^/6x(#)4-3]@5-^9/77+3#'" 3. Wynton Marsalis and Dr. John--"New Orleans Music That Would Be Grittier With a Better Trumpet Player" 4. Gary Burton--"The New New New New New New New New Quartet" 5. Pat Metheny--"Another Project That Doesn't Sound As Unusual As You Might Have Expected From The Pre-Release Description" 6. Lady Gaga and Marcus Roberts--"The Great American Songbook, Volume 4: Gershwin and Kern" 7. Scotty McCreery--"Reachin' a Low Note" 8. Carlos Santana with Katy Perry--"Live Together Again! At the Hollywood Bowl!" 9. DeathAnnihilation--"Death Metal for Stinkin' Corpses" 10. Usher--"Where Has All The Hip Hop Gone?" Jazz's dominance is not even fully explained by the Top 10 chart. For the entire year 2017, jazz made up 79 per cent of all music sales in all formats, compared to 18 per cent for country, two per cent for classical, and one per cent for the combined pop/rock/hip hop category. As has been described countless times by many commentators, jazz's rise to being the universally popular form of music can be directly traced to the 2011 release by Wynton Marsalis and Eric Clapton. From that one album, a true music revolution took place all over the world, to the point where the words "jazz" and "music" have become synonymous for an entire generation of young people. Those under 18 cannot believe that at one time pop, rock and hip hop were far more popular than jazz, just as they cannot believe at at one time people sat at computer keyboards and monitors placed on a physical desk. Ironically, the Wynton Marsalis/Eric Clapton album was roundly ridiculed by the jazz cognoscenti, who could not have forseen that the album would change their world much for the better. Many of those who posted insulting put-downs of the album upon its release now take in seven figure annual incomes, as beneficiaries of the incredible commercial expansion of the worldwide jazz industry. Quote
fasstrack Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 I liked Fry and Laurie, though. And Bertie and Wooster. But I agree that non-musians making recordings b\c they can is annoying. Almost worth getting pissed over. Oh well, like Bialystock told Bloom: 'if you got it, FLAUNT it... Quote
Quincy Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 (edited) Might scare people to consider this but this roundly abused disc is going to expose more people to jazz (or should that be "jazz"?) as Ken Burns ever dreamed. It might at that. A couple of months ago a friend of mine who torrents way too much stuff presented me with an audience recording of this. He knows I love jazz and since Wynton is the king of jazz, and Clapton is "god," he figured these two together was better than peanut butter & chocolate together. I made it about 2 minutes into "Ice Cream," then skipped around a bit. I was able to return to it to him without comment thanks to a distracting moment of a game going on in a bar. Let's see, so Wynton has paired himself with a country music icon and a "guitar god," what's next? Oooo, what's on Paul McCartney's calendar? Edited September 15, 2011 by Quincy Quote
AllenLowe Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 thanks Hot Ptah; my next CD is a symphonic collaboration with Mantovani - Quote
J.A.W. Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 thanks Hot Ptah; my next CD is a symphonic collaboration with Mantovani - You'd need a spiritual séance, he died in 1980 Quote
fasstrack Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 The only drag about that Willie Nelson CD is the title, Two MEN with the Blues. Stiff. Two GUYS, at least. Too bad they couln't pull off Two Jews Blues, Willie with long beard and all. Hey Allen, who made that, for real? Andy Statman and? Quote
AllenLowe Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 sounds familiar, don't quite remember. how about for the Wynton/Claption: Two Stiffs with the Blues Quote
danasgoodstuff Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 I thought 2 Jews Blues was Barry Goldberg & Bloomfield (uncredited), no? Quote
fasstrack Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 I think it was Kinky Friedman. Maybe. Remember Richie Schulberg (Citizen Kafka) from WBAI? He always had Statman on his show. Kafka dif recently. Another good live radio persm gone... Quote
AllenLowe Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 actually, he's right, I think it was Bloomfield and Goldberg - Quote
marcello Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 News Story dated September 15, 2018: Jazz Albums Hold Down Top Six Spots on Charts In a development which has become so commonplace as to become wearisome, jazz albums continue to hold down the top six places in all of the major music sales charts. The top ten albums this week are: 1. Allen Lowe/Matthew Shipp/Various Others--"Maine, My Maine, The Home I Love So Well" 2. Anthony Braxton--"63 Quartet Variations on '#^/6x(#)4-3]@5-^9/77+3#'" 3. Wynton Marsalis and Dr. John--"New Orleans Music That Would Be Grittier With a Better Trumpet Player" 4. Gary Burton--"The New New New New New New New New Quartet" 5. Pat Metheny--"Another Project That Doesn't Sound As Unusual As You Might Have Expected From The Pre-Release Description" 6. Lady Gaga and Marcus Roberts--"The Great American Songbook, Volume 4: Gershwin and Kern" 7. Scotty McCreery--"Reachin' a Low Note" 8. Carlos Santana with Katy Perry--"Live Together Again! At the Hollywood Bowl!" 9. DeathAnnihilation--"Death Metal for Stinkin' Corpses" 10. Usher--"Where Has All The Hip Hop Gone?" Jazz's dominance is not even fully explained by the Top 10 chart. For the entire year 2017, jazz made up 79 per cent of all music sales in all formats, compared to 18 per cent for country, two per cent for classical, and one per cent for the combined pop/rock/hip hop category. As has been described countless times by many commentators, jazz's rise to being the universally popular form of music can be directly traced to the 2011 release by Wynton Marsalis and Eric Clapton. From that one album, a true music revolution took place all over the world, to the point where the words "jazz" and "music" have become synonymous for an entire generation of young people. Those under 18 cannot believe that at one time pop, rock and hip hop were far more popular than jazz, just as they cannot believe at at one time people sat at computer keyboards and monitors placed on a physical desk. Ironically, the Wynton Marsalis/Eric Clapton album was roundly ridiculed by the jazz cognoscenti, who could not have forseen that the album would change their world much for the better. Many of those who posted insulting put-downs of the album upon its release now take in seven figure annual incomes, as beneficiaries of the incredible commercial expansion of the worldwide jazz industry. Now there's TWO posts, that made this whole thing worth reading. Disclaimer: I actually couldn't bear to read absolutely everything! Quote
fasstrack Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 Dana: I think we're both right. I remember that Bloomfield record, don't know if I heard the music. But if it's half as good as his score to Medium Cool...I also remember Andy Statman and his merry mandolin on an LP cover with that name. I just need, um, the 2nd Jew. Josephus? Paging Gregory Hines...We should start a sub-forum for old Jews. The beauty part: all you need is a minion... Quote
fasstrack Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 Um Ptah, could I get that in writing? The part about the millions, I mean... I'm nothing anyway. Good thing Doug Wamble--Wynton's personal web Clarence Darrow--gave up trolling for the cloth, or something. MF made me look like Ghandi... Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted September 15, 2011 Report Posted September 15, 2011 Am I the only person here with "personal interactions" with Bloomfield? Just curious. Quote
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